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Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Non-binary, 46
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"Neverwhere: A Novel" by Neil Gaiman (anything by Neil is a good read, always).
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Sorry I confused you. It's pretty simple, I was talking to the women who have replied to the original post when I said,
"I agree with all the statements in this post but you are all strong, confident, and beautiful women. I would dare to guess that none of you have even a remote problem with finding a man (or woman). If you do it's only because men are morons (no offense)"
They've all said things (hince the "all the statements") that I think are true but they are all strong confident and beautiful women so of course they would be attracted to a strong, confident, and intelligent man. However when it comes to why some women like aggressive and even "bad boys", I thought it would be a good idea to look into the minds of some women who have written about it. SOOOOO, then I went into suggesting the book and movie. I thought it was pretty clear but I guess it wasn't. Sorry I lost ya.

Cheers!
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Because the bad boys have hot girlfriends who like to make out while they are dancing in order to turn him on...make out with another girl that is.

Oh sorry, not the answer you are looking for.

Seriously though, I have a great book for you "Meeting the Master" by Elissa Wald. It remains one of my all-time favorite books on submission to this day. The very first story in, "The Initiation" is about a woman who falls in love with a very strong and confident "Nice guy" but half way through she starts to get obsessed with trying to make him be bad. Finally she starts to fall for a bully that her boyfriend is enemies with. What is so fantastic about these stories?

First, there is almost no sex in any of the stories yet I find them extremely erotic.
Second, it's an almost clear window into the mind of a woman who CRAVES submission.

I agree with all the statements in this post but you are all strong, confident, and beautiful women. I would dare to guess that none of you have even a remote problem with finding a man (or woman). If you do it's only because men are morons (no offense)
But, generally speaking, men like submissive women and submissive women, generally speaking, like assholes. Elissa does a fantastic job of opening that mind up to the reader in her stories. I've read her book several times and found myself amazed at her talent and her ability to reach inside that mind and explore all the aspects of submissiveness.

Also watch "The Secretary", another amazing view into the mind of a submissive woman, written by a woman and I think directed by a woman as well. You'll like it, there are boobies in the movie (watches all the men rushing out to netflix).

I feel it's important to note that real submission doesn't mean abuse. It's a horrible world out there for those who think differently. I think that's part of why I like both of the above. Both women ultimately explore what it's like to be submissive in a world that doesn't understand that behavior. I find that both of the above do an excellent job of taking the uninitiated down the confused and often heartbreaking road of a submissive in an abusive and terrifying world.

Anyway, sort of got off topic a little but I think you'll find some answers there.

* bows head and awaits my spanking *
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I'm glad you feel that way Fetish and it's good to know that you can take constructive criticism especially if a story is pulled and not react like some in the past that have thrown a hissy fit about it being pulled and then threaten to pull all of thier stories and pick up thier toys and leave the playground.


So this means you'll provide constructive criticism?
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"Sex does not thrive on monotony. Without feelings, inventions, moods, [there are] no surprises in bed. Sex must be mixed with tears, laughter, words, promises, scenes, jealousy, envy, all the spices of fear, foreign travel, new faces, novels, stories, dreams, fantasies, music, dancing, opium, wine."
- Anais nin

I put that quote up because I just read it in "The joy of writing sex" one of the many books I'm reading to try to be a better writer. But the question I pose is, are you getting ratings of 1 because people are unsatisfied with the story or unsatisfied with the level of masturbation potential?

Personally I have no problem telling people that their writing could use a little of this or that if I think they are actually trying to tell a story and not just going for the biggest cum factor. I don't have a problem because I welcome constructive feedback on my own stories, in fact I WOULD LOVE to have constructive feedback. But mostly what I get is masturbators either wanting me to help them jerk off or telling me how wonderful their wank was. Ummm...not the way to get me excited, sorry.

But trying to find stories that are actually NOT monotony and do the things that the lovely Anais suggested is like finding a needle in the haystack. I've found a few on your site but far, far, far more are at best, monotonous.

It also means that we as writers have to be unafraid to go out on a limb and push the stories into either silly directions or serious directions. It means that you have to be willing to make a fool of yourself and have people tell you so. It means you can do as I've done and try to push yourself and watch your ratings fall, have yours stories pulled from the site (even if they get back on the site several weeks later ) and never see your name listed as a popular author on the site again.

I've thought of leaving a few low ratings and actually giving reasons why but I see the really HORRIBLE stories that are posted and within hours the rating goes to 220 or something insane like that. I almost did that on a recent story that I found absolute garbage. It wasn't erotic, it wasn't original, and it was anything BUT interesting yet the rating was through the roof! So what's the point? If only 2% of the readers are looking for stories and the other are looking for a good wank, then it's a bit like standing in front of a eighteen wheeler with your hand up saying, "Umm...can you slow down?".

Or maybe a simpler reason is that people are afraid of saying negative things because it will get them flamed.

Cheers!
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Ok, I thought about starting a new topic but this question seems related...do erections really rage? I always read 'raging erection' and who knows, I may have even used it in a story but do they really rage? I envision his one eye all red and he is running around with "the rage" attacking everything in site. raging -->

To be fair I've also read "throbbing pussy" but I'm not really sure that's accurate and it seems to actually have an effect on men. Observe ---

As I read this, my fingers linger over my throbbing pussy while I ache for the touch of a reader's tongue.

Oh lord, now I'm going to be attacked by chat windows next time I'm online. But see...but the opposite,

As I read this, I grab my raging erection and wrestle that sucker to the ground where he spits and screams for ...

Ok, see...not the same effect.

Anyway, thought it might be fun to point out silly references to cocks and pussy...I'm sure you'll find a few in my stories...I've actually been trying to go a little wild lately. This is just for fun, no real attacks on anyone...just trying to keep the post alive.

SO get your hand off your 8.5643 cock and tell me whats what.
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Aussies have a day?! I thought they had 365 just like the rest of us!

Seriously, I FUCKING LOVE Australia! I would move there in a heartbeat! But they are mean and keep the rest of us out by only being open one day a year!

Oh sorry, that's not what it's about. God...what is Australia day about? Is it like Canada day where everyone looks at a map and tries to figure out what Canada has ever done for the world?

Ok, I'm stopping now...but seriously...LOVE Australia. People are amazingly nice... even the woman who was really mean to me when I was there and tried to imitate the Croc hunter. (this was before he died). Here is what she said, "Oh, we all talk like we are from the country do we?" and then turned around and was all pissed. Ummmm...hello! I didn't even know there was a "country" accent in Australia! Fuck, I just flew 27 hours to fucking get to your country and you can't even recognize that I'm from the fucking country?!

Then I said, "Righteo Mate! R'nt U GOOORJUS!"

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Sweeeeet! I finally started a lively and fun thread! I'm so proud of myself. =d>

So....societies to blame you say? Maybe, or maybe guys just spend way too much time thinking about COCK! Hmmmm...

But seriously, this is good lively discussion. I think we are getting close to something here. But let's not get distracted by conversations bout "size matters", the original point isn't does size matter. That debate has always raged on and I can tell you that size matters in several ways (sometimes big just HURTS!) and not just the size of a guys dick. Boob size matters, look at mine now that I've posted a pic for my avatar...IBTC. I know about boob size and I embrace my lack of boob in several ways in my stories. So get off the size thing...women are horrible when it comes to boob size, men are horrible when it comes to boob and dick size.

All I want to know is why everything has to always have accurate measurements. It always has to be exactly calculated and as you said, where do you start?

Also, just so you know, bra size isn't always consistent and there are ways to move up a notch or two if you know what you are doing. Guys can't do that...muuuuhaha!

- Paula
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Ok, serious question because I honestly don't understand. What is it about guys and measurements? Is it training from school? Are you taught as young boys that in order for anything to have meaning you need to measure and record that measurement in a story? Because it seems odd to me that breasts can't be accurately described unless they are 36C or DD or whatever. And of course there is the size of the cock. It always has to be accurate down to the millimeter.

Why not just say she has large breasts or huge melons or rolling hills of soft flesh or the old BIG JUGGIES! Also, in Hitchcock (pun intended) fashion, why not just say you have a huge shlong or the thunder beast or great sacrificial spear or destiny...hell anything is more creative and interesting to read than my 8.1444569 cock.

PS: Not really angry about this, there is much, MUCH sarcasm in my voice while I write this. I just can't get that across in writing. However I seriously do want to know what's up with needing measurements? Thanks. I'll check back in a few days.
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Heehee, fun. I've always wondered what Lush's ass looks like...nice bum there Lush!

Ok, so when the HELL do you guys find time to write? It's all I can do to find time to write stories and release my perverted imagination. I need a new Jay Oh Bee.
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This was a nice little thread. This, along with the other thread that Lush so nicely linked me to (you're awesome Lush, we should chat again some time) have helped a great deal. I'm finally taking a stab at writing a full length novel and it's much more difficult than writing a short story. In the process of writing the novel I've been stuck. I know exactly where I want it to go but the flow just isn't there. That and I'm still not convinced that I'm ready for "prime time". I see all the common errors and it makes me flounder around in my own insecurity. I read stories and read "starts" about six-hundred thousand times. "Then she started to get..", "I started.." UGH.
Also, the passive writing that is a sure sign of amateur writers.
In short, I feel ok writing when I know that there is no risk but as soon as I think about sending something off to a publisher then I freeze up. I'm positive that my skills are weak at best. I've got ideas by the millions. Ideas aren't the problem. It's all the things that make great writers great that I know I lack. SOOO...I wallow in my own insecurity and let my story die.
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Home Depot?

Could have sworn she was one of those elegant and glamorous strippers that makes sometimes up to 2k a night. Oh well, poor kid has to go home to a Mommy that smells like sawdust and glue.
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I want to see it...I don't want to see it....I read all the books and like them but I feel all dirty. I had to go read Charlaine Harris again after to remind myself who came up with the idea for the story (oops did I say that out loud?). But then...UGH! I have to go see it. Damn her romance and creative writing abilities!! AHHHH!!!

Think he will play Quidditch in this movie?
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I think you are doing the right thing, no debate there, my problem is with those who hunt for demons where there are only reflections of themselves.
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It's an age old question, entire theses have been written on the subject. I remember reading about how in Europe, at the turn of the century I believe, a woman's ankles became erotic...why? Because that's all men could see. In Japan the back of a woman's neck was considered the same as showing a breast today. The problem always is, where to draw the line when it comes to what kids can access.

Personally I grew up with absolutely no parental supervision and well, other things. This comes out in my stories all the time and I think you can see the fucked up result it had on me. I think the most important thing is that parents are involved with their kids, talk to their kids and have a strong grasp on what they feel is morally right or wrong. As someone who is planning on becoming a parent sometime in the very near future (fingers crossed) I certainly plan to be involved with their lives.

I love this site and I understand the laws, but what about when you want to write from personal experience? Did anyone's sexual adventures (or misadventures) actually begin right at 18 or whenever it was legal? I've known two people both male and female that didn't have sex until they were 20 and 22. Both went freaking insane once they finally had sex, like this new drug, both ended up with a VD (nothing deadly, the guy actually had two) and both ended up turning back to religion as some sort of penance for their "sins". My point (cause sometimes I never have one) is that they were both protected from sex all their lives, once they had it they went crazy, did stupid things, paid a price and now view sex as "wrong" or "evil". I had sex at a VERY early age (not by choice) and grew up having more and more sex and I'm pretty fucked up but in some ways I can say I'm honestly better off than either of them. Sure, I write stories that are "on the edge" but I'm just exploring what's in my mind. Hasn't anyone on here ever read stories from "Secret Garden"? There are stories of but women don't want to be just because they have a fantasy. So sometimes I really, REALLY want to write about my personal experiences, I really want to tell stories about things that happened to me but how can I? The law says that no matter what if a thought/fantasy comes out of my head it better be written with these ages and in these situations. That my friends is censorship. No matter how you paint it. If I'm not harming another, not putting another person in danger, and not inciting others to go out and commit acts harming others then I should have a right to explore whatever creative angles I desire as an artist.

Anyway, the debate will go on until the end of time. As long as there are those with power, there will be censorship and artists will continue to push the boundaries. It's always been and it always will be.

Here is me stepping off my soap box and ready for flaming.
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Ok, two problems with that comic...well several really but two big ones.

1. The punchline was weak. WEAK!

2. They have no arms, much less hands! NO ARMS PEOPLE!!!
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Wow, freaky. First the post gets moved, then it turns into a post about shrinkwrapped chicks? You guys are just FREAKS!

Doing better BTW, thanks for the well-wishing.
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just wanted to let everyone know I haven't dropped off again, I had to have surgery and it's been pretty rough. First I was in a lot of pain, now I'm sick all the time. Hopefully I'll be able to do things again soon but for now I can barely sit up.

Much love,

Paula
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We met up with a young couple and the girl surprised us by the fact that she was facinated by squirting, so much so that she figured out a way to do it. I don't think it's just peeing because she did it once or twice but then when we decided to video it she was only able to do a little tiny squirt.

They were a fun couple.

I, on the other hand, have never done it, but I do get really juicy during sex. So much so that if I get turned on enough it runs down my thighs and I can completely soak the bed or chair or whatever but I don't think that's the same thing. Honestly I think the female body is 100x more complex, with far more erogenous zones than the male body. Don't hate now, nothing wrong with being male but women have so many ways of acheiving orgasm and not all of them center around her clit. "What's wrong with a kiss boy? Why not try a kiss before you stampede for the clitoris Johnson!"
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Cute, should have ended with him bending her over and poking her up the ass, just my personal opinion. Chicks with Dicks are way hot.
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As usual, any post from Lush is always quite laudable, but perhaps she is simply using sophistry on us all.
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Hi everyone, thanks for some great advice and thanks Kat for starting this off with such a well thought out and insightful post. I would be interested in getting more honest and direct feedback to my stories. I'm always torn between wanting to write a good story and having that high jack-off factor that always results in good ratings. While I struggle and say to myself 'I don't care about ratings' it's always nice to see them shoot up there. Fortunately the things that turn me on seem to turn a fair number of other people on, however I still want to be a better writer and I'm really interested in getting published one day.

So all that said, perhaps we could start a club or group where we request feedback on stories and everyone is free to be as open and honest as possible with a oath of thick skins and non-combat.

What ya think?
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Ummm...hello, she is a Pixie, of course she is going to have a cute little penis. Could you imagine a big huge "Honkin' Cock" on a pixie? We would call that a Cock with wings and trust me, the last thing cocks need are wings, they already have enough control, give 'em wings and we'll just have to start wearing steel chastidy belts all the time.

OH NO! Gotta run, here comes a flying huge pixie cock!!

AHHHHHH! It got me...gotta go clean up or anyone want to lick me clean?
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Pixie, can I be the first to get tied up and abused by your brand new shiney penis? Maybe we can all stand around and pet it first? It's just so cute, aren't you a cute little penis, yes you are, come here you little penis you, awww, who's a happy boy, who's a happy boy? Whooshee cutie wuddle penis you.
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OMG, I totally have a nun fetish...and a true story about a nun and I (it's in my asstr stories) but maybe I'll write it on here. More Nun pics please, those had me really ummm....praying.