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Well, that's me fucked. I don't even know the difference between a clause and a phrase.

I'll get bang on it.


Clause is the guy who comes down the chimney and leaves presents. Phrase is what they use to shoot people in Star Trek. hope that helps. smile

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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Clause is the guy who comes down the chimney and leaves presents. Phrase is what they use to shoot people in Star Trek. hope that helps. smile


Ah-ha! So Clause is the bastard who pinches my milk and cookies every Christmas Eve. Well, he's not getting away with it this year. This year I'll be lying in wait, on guard.
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Ah-ha! So Clause is the bastard who pinches my milk and cookies every Christmas Eve. Well, he's not getting away with it this year. This year I'll be lying in wait, on guard.


Stun him with your phrase.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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Stun him with your phrase.


Yeah, I like it. I best get my phrase gun charged up.

Anyway, I'd like to ask a question. I'm writing a three-part story with each part consisting of about two and half thousand words. I've written in a Jamaican character and used Rastafarian dialect for his dialogue. There's not much of it, as he's not the central character, but I was wondering whether or not this would be acceptable for the site.

If it is, is there a thread anywhere in the forum where I can post some of the dialogue so people can give me their opinion and let me know whether they can understand it?
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Yeah, I like it. I best get my phrase gun charged up.

Anyway, I'd like to ask a question. I'm writing a three-part story with each part consisting of about two and half thousand words. I've written in a Jamaican character and used Rastafarian dialect for his dialogue. There's not much of it, as he's not the central character, but I was wondering whether or not this would be acceptable for the site.

If it is, is there a thread anywhere in the forum where I can post some of the dialogue so people can give me their opinion and let me know whether they can understand it?



I've seen dialogue written that way a few times...

Why not post something in ask the readers or ask the writers?

I'm sure plenty people will be happy to help smile
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Clause is the guy who comes down the chimney and leaves presents. Phrase is what they use to shoot people in Star Trek. hope that helps. smile


I knew it. Rachel is a closet StarTrek Fan
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I knew it. Rachel is a closet StarTrek Fan


I am too. I watch Next Generation sometimes. I was hooked from the moment I set eyes on Deanna Troy's heaving bosom.
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I've seen dialogue written that way a few times...

Why not post something in ask the readers or ask the writers?

I'm sure plenty people will be happy to help smile


Okay, I'll give that a go later. Thanks for your help.
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I was hooked from the moment I set eyes on Deanna Troy's heaving bosom.


Seven of Nine...

*drools*
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Okay, I'll give that a go later. Thanks for your help.


I wrote in a James Bond-ish accent in this one:

Natural Beauty

(I even recorded an audio of that one... For my sins... My accent is AWFUL!)

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As far as I am concerned, I have no complaints at all. I am surprised that some writers don't run the spell checker on the Lush text editor. Okay it likes American spellings, and highlights my Antiquated English, but I just ignore those. It is particularly good at picking up repeated words, such as "and and" or "to to", which I find have slipped into my text without me noticing (a problem from writing on an iPad app, such as Textilus. And it doesn't recognise "arse" at all, but then I think most of us know what an arse looks like! So, thank you from me to all the mods who have had the pleasure/labour of reading my stories. Will
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I wrote in a James Bond-ish accent in this one:

Natural Beauty

(I even recorded an audio of that one... For my sins... My accent is AWFUL!)



I think your accent is rather sexy, in a Scottish sort of way. Will xoxoxo
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Seven of Nine...

*drools*


Ohhhhh Yes 7of9 but don't forget Major Kira, Jadzia Dax, Lwaxana Troi and Capt Janeway they are also two very good galactic spunk buttons.
To boldly Lush where no one has Lushed before
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Yeah, I like it. I best get my phrase gun charged up.

Anyway, I'd like to ask a question. I'm writing a three-part story with each part consisting of about two and half thousand words. I've written in a Jamaican character and used Rastafarian dialect for his dialogue. There's not much of it, as he's not the central character, but I was wondering whether or not this would be acceptable for the site.

If it is, is there a thread anywhere in the forum where I can post some of the dialogue so people can give me their opinion and let me know whether they can understand it?



My thoughts. Often times, having a hint of a 'foreign' dialect is enough to give readers the impression you want - too much, and sometimes it becomes either a chore to read, a little stereotyped, or it comes off as sounding silly (especially if you're not intimately familiar with the dialogue you're pursuing). dropping a phrase, or an occasionally 'accent' works far better than trying to write entirely in the desired dialect. Just my opinion, but yeah, it's a fine line. if he is, as you say, not the central character and doesn't have a lot of dialogue, I'd say you're probably okay.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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My thoughts. Often times, having a hint of a 'foreign' dialect is enough to give readers the impression you want - too much, and sometimes it becomes either a chore to read, a little stereotyped, or it comes off as sounding silly (especially if you're not intimately familiar with the dialogue you're pursuing). dropping a phrase, or an occasionally 'accent' works far better than trying to write entirely in the desired dialect. Just my opinion, but yeah, it's a fine line. if he is, as you say, not the central character and doesn't have a lot of dialogue, I'd say you're probably okay.


The whole story's stereotyped and silly. I know people will think it's daft, but that's just me all over. I am by no means a serious writer.

Look, I'll create a thread in the Ask The Reader section and people can give me their honest opinion.
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From what I see on Lush, few authors improve their writing in a technical sense; the majority of improvement you see in authors is in a growing confidence in skills they already possess but haven't really used before.


Exactly. And I'll tell you why: there's not enough people giving out constructive advice.

Some people need advice concerning sentence structure -- the fundamentals and how sentences are built around clauses and phrases. They need to be told how to join independent clauses by using semi colons or coordinating conjunctions to avoid the comma splice. How to add a dependent clause to form a complex sentence using subordinating conjunctions. How to connect participle and gerund phrases to clauses to add extra information to a sentence.

But nearly all story comments consist of things like, "Great story", "Made me hard", "I spunked all over my keyboard".

The problem is, people are too sensitive. If someone were to give constructive advice on a story the author would be offended and think that you were insulting them.
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I would like to thank all the moderators!!

My time writing on this site has been very educational. In my latest story I decided to attempt to improve technically and with the extreme patience of Delphi, JessicaX & Stormdog100 I believe I have.

I used to enjoy writing back in school but that has been over 30 years ago and with a GREAT amount of patience from ALL of the moderators here, I may actually become decent.

Thanks Again!!
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Lush has helped me in many ways. I'm given a chance to write something creative. The moderators have guided me towards a higher standard of Grammar.

I'm truly grateful to Lush, the readers, and above all the moderators who gave me so much support and encouragement. I hope that Lush will continue to strive...

I would also like to add that the moderators are very kind, caring, and patient.
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As long as I'm reading wonderful stories, I don't wanna know the system of scoring etc smile
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I agree. The editors do require better quality writing BUT they're also very helpful about it. They don't just say "You SUCK!". They tell you why you suck and how you can stop sucking. I appreciate their patience and assistance.

Now, if I could find someone to do that with my personal life, I'd be all set.
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Some people need advice concerning sentence structure -- the fundamentals and how sentences are built around clauses and phrases. They need to be told how to join independent clauses by using semi colons or coordinating conjunctions to avoid the comma splice. How to add a dependent clause to form a complex sentence using subordinating conjunctions. How to connect participle and gerund phrases to clauses to add extra information to a sentence.



You do realize that about 90% of the native English speaking population understood none of that paragraph, right?
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You do realize that about 90% of the native English speaking population understood none of that paragraph, right?


That may be true, but it doesn't stop us from trying to improve our writers' skill and general understanding. smile
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That may be true, but it doesn't stop us from trying to improve our writers' skill and general understanding. smile


And we all appreciate that beyond your understanding.
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I've worked most of my life as a writer/editor...

What struck me during my time as a Lush Mod, (a Senior Mod eventually) was how AWARE my fellow mods were about quality control in EVERY way... Very often, these were people with no practical editorial experience so it was all the more surprising that they rose to the task of editing/moderating/policing the site in such a professional manner. That continues.

The REASON for this, I feel, is that Lush moderators, (almost all of whom are accomplished writers themselves...) have an intrinsic understanding of the ETHOS of our site. Mods are, I feel, INVESTED in our site to a higher degree than more casual members. It's worth pointing out that Mods, (selected generally for above average talent and writing/editorial skills) put their own creativity on the back-burner every time they go to the submissions queue. IT COSTS TO MOD!

It can be VERY stressful in terms of advising on content, grammar, allowed practice, simple quality, etc. (While a Moderator might SCREAM in frustration at some things they see, (I did), the team approach each submitting writer with a degree of of diplomacy and understanding that can frustrate and TAX the Mod whose job it is both to encourage the writer while observing quality standards.)

I've NEVER worked with a more talented or committed bunch of professionals, ESPECIALLY since these people WERE NOT professionals until they stepped up to give something back to the site that (mostly) originally published them.

There is NO TRAINING provided to new moderators, (guidelines etc exist, and the Mod's Forum provides a source of support from the more experienced) but the ACTION of policing a submission is a huge undertaking that all mods take SO VERY SERIOUSLY. You LEARN it by DOING it.

In my time as a moderator, guidelines changed and we as mods had to adapt to the organic changes that make our site what it is, (in my opinion, the best erotic writing site source on the web.)

I'm very proud to be a part of Lush and it's the moderators who insure that the writing I post to this day is not only of a certain quality, but is also standing beside writing of at least equal and often better quality.

Though no longer a Senior Mod, I'm still involved in the site and I'm gratified to know that the team continue to bring a professionalism and talent that enable me as a writer to contribute with pride and a sense of achievement as my work is approved.

So well done, you Mods!

xx SF
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I've worked most of my life as a writer/editor...

What struck me during my time as a Lush Mod, (a Senior Mod eventually) was how AWARE my fellow mods were about quality control in EVERY way... Very often, these were people with no practical editorial experience so it was all the more surprising that they rose to the task of editing/moderating/policing the site in such a professional manner. That continues.

The REASON for this, I feel, is that Lush moderators, (almost all of whom are accomplished writers themselves...) have an intrinsic understanding of the ETHOS of our site. Mods are, I feel, INVESTED in our site to a higher degree than more casual members. It's worth pointing out that Mods, (selected generally for above average talent and writing/editorial skills) put their own creativity on the back-burner every time they go to the submissions queue. IT COSTS TO MOD!

It can be VERY stressful in terms of advising on content, grammar, allowed practice, simple quality, etc. (While a Moderator might SCREAM in frustration at some things they see, (I did), the team approach each submitting writer with a degree of of diplomacy and understanding that can frustrate and TAX the Mod whose job it is both to encourage the writer while observing quality standards.)

I've NEVER worked with a more talented or committed bunch of professionals, ESPECIALLY since these people WERE NOT professionals until they stepped up to give something back to the site that (mostly) originally published them.

There is NO TRAINING provided to new moderators, (guidelines etc exist, and the Mod's Forum provides a source of support from the more experienced) but the ACTION of policing a submission is a huge undertaking that all mods take SO VERY SERIOUSLY. You LEARN it by DOING it.

In my time as a moderator, guidelines changed and we as mods had to adapt to the organic changes that make our site what it is, (in my opinion, the best erotic writing site source on the web.)

I'm very proud to be a part of Lush and it's the moderators who insure that the writing I post to this day is not only of a certain quality, but is also standing beside writing of at least equal and often better quality.

Though no longer a Senior Mod, I'm still involved in the site and I'm gratified to know that the team continue to bring a professionalism and talent that enable me as a writer to contribute with pride and a sense of achievement as my work is approved.

So well done, you Mods!

xx SF



And then there's me. I just drink a lot and toss a coin. heads, i verify, tails, i reject. easiest job in the world.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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I've been doing this for 4 years. i've been a senior mod for over 2. i know most of the authors here, having read, modded, or senior modded over their stories. i know which stories i need to read thru carefully, and which i can move through at a fairly quick rate. at one point in time in my career here i was modding 15-20 stories a day - the mod crew was that small at the time. now, i do less. i would say that, on average, we get 50-60 new submissions a day here. it's as simple as this - when that happens, i can jump in and move those stories out very quickly - i am damn good at what i do, and, i may miss a typo here and there while doing it, but i assure you that 99% of the time the stories i mod are clean.

so, to answer your question, yes, i can publish a 3000 word story in 10 minutes. i don't actually read it, but i know what to look for as an editor - there are little tricks i'm learned on how to do that. and, since my name is attached to each and everyone of them, i make SURE nothing goes through that shouldn't.

hope that answers your question for you.

PS - i am probably one of the stingiest mods when it comes out to handing out RRs, too, btw - if you're hoping for one, i would suggest you request someone else to mod your story. smile


I actually prefer you to mod mine. If you approve it, and you have, I feel my story is off to a good start. If I ever get an RR from you Rachel, that would make my week.
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I've been doing this for 4 years. i've been a senior mod for over 2. i know most of the authors here, having read, modded, or senior modded over their stories. i know which stories i need to read thru carefully, and which i can move through at a fairly quick rate. at one point in time in my career here i was modding 15-20 stories a day - the mod crew was that small at the time. now, i do less. i would say that, on average, we get 50-60 new submissions a day here. it's as simple as this - when that happens, i can jump in and move those stories out very quickly - i am damn good at what i do, and, i may miss a typo here and there while doing it, but i assure you that 99% of the time the stories i mod are clean.

so, to answer your question, yes, i can publish a 3000 word story in 10 minutes. i don't actually read it, but i know what to look for as an editor - there are little tricks i'm learned on how to do that. and, since my name is attached to each and everyone of them, i make SURE nothing goes through that shouldn't.

hope that answers your question for you.

PS - i am probably one of the stingiest mods when it comes out to handing out RRs, too, btw - if you're hoping for one, i would suggest you request someone else to mod your story. smile


It pleases and amuses me to read the above since as a trained copy editor this is EXACTLY how one is taught to approach a piece. Working on a magazine, I got to know the various writing styles of various contributing writers, some needing a more careful eye than others. By virtue of the volume of work on a given day it's well nigh impossible to read every word of every submission, so you are trained to 'speed-read' or scan a piece and with experience an obvious typo or a 'clunky' sentence will leap off the page and can be corrected.

I find it remarkable that Lush Mods seem to intrinsically understand the process and quickly adapt to this way of working. It's worth mentioning that in my experience the discipline of editing another person's copy is quite different from editing one's own stuff. It's a much more TECHNICAL process. During my time as a magazine writer/editor it was a given that one never had final proof over one's own copy, instead, another editor would proof it, invariably picking up on and correcting the glitches and faults that most writers overlook in their own writing.

xx SF

Final Thought. One of the drawbacks of being a trained copy editor is that I find that in reading fiction for relaxation and pleasure I often slip into 'editor' mode and find myself skipping by descriptive passages and the like in order to more quickly advance the development of the plot! Obviously this isn't an ideal way to read since at the very least you are doing the writer a dis-service!

Conversely, just the other day, dining with a friend in our favourite bar/restaurant, the owner, Paul, asked me to cast an eye over an advertorial copy he had commissioned for publication. With a few judicious strokes of a red pen and a few semantic additions I was able to make the piece read with a more 'snappier' immediacy that made the piece read more fluently and better engage the reader. That's the result of training and experience. (And we got a free dinner out of it!)