In a perfect world, men typically shower the woman of their fancy with gifts of all sorts.
And it is a beautiful thing.
I recall a 4 day binge I enjoyed 3 years ago,
It was a perfect long weekend over on the islands right here in the not so glamorous state Of Ohio.
But the beer was cold, the women were hot, and the men felt like partying.
After the third night, I came to the realization that I had blown over a few thousand dollars some how, and had yet another night to go, plus I wasn't quite done drinking yet.
The crowd had changed, and many folks I had bought several drinks for were no longer in the bar.
I was one happy camper when a sexy blond approached me with a drink, and she continued to buy for a good while.
One buy one, guys, and girls alike, started buying. Some I recognised from the previous eve's, some I didn't.
I had a great time regardless, and still felt like a man the next morning. Hung over of course.
When I party, I try an make sure a good time is had by all.
And All one can hope for, is to be in good company with folks of similar ideals, men, or women.
In response to Barbie above.... you've found a girl who doesn't need or want anyone to pay the way for her... ME. and no, I dont even secretly want it - yes, I like pretty things and I don't feel guilty about that. I like pretty things, men like other things - each to their own. But the bottom line is - I can pay my own way and yes, even treat myself to my own pretty things. And on an above comment about people not wanting to work hard - you've found another who doesn't agree with that because I do work hard and I work hard because I want to and I love it. I didnt get my education and work my way through my career chain for the ability to buy flashy things or wave a big pay check in front of anybody or even for status. Its just something that happened for me while I've spent years doing what I love. I realize you geared all that towards a man's purpose for doing things but I'd like to give most successful men out there the benefit of the doubt and say they all do what they do for the same reason I do what I do. I have a hard time believing that all men out there that work their asses off and have luxuries in life only do it to impress and buy drinks for hot girls. There's so much more to having self satisfaction and contentment then impressing people with drinks and pretty things.
Now don't get me a wrong - a guy to pay for something on a date or even do something thoughtful for me (whether it involves a cost for him or not) is appreciated, but a guy who spends like crazy and pays for it all can send the message that he views his money and his ability to spend it on a girl as his greatest asset and quite frankly, that's hardly the greatest asset of a man. A guy who can treat graciously, yet a appreciate when i want to treat graciously is so much more of a man.
Relationships require give and take from both sides therefore both sides should be take their turns of giving (willingingly) and taking (appreciatively). I cant speak for all women but I'm sure there are plenty out there who would agree with me that there is degree of satisfaction that comes with taking your turn and being the one to "treat" - it's a simple gesture that speaks to the other in the relationship that you are willing to give as well.
An ending thought..... When a man treats me it doesn't have to be with the "pink convertibles and horse ranches and fancy things".... something far less bright and shiny with a much smaller cost that has some element of personal meaning to it is much more appreciated then the shiny expensive things anyway - and no a man that treats like this isn't a deadbeat and no I'm not interested in a deadbeat.... and NO I'm not scared of sounding shallow or materialistic buy saying so ....
and I'm out because I do believe I've maxed out my 2 cents here!
Short and sweet..its fine with me if she pays..I dont ask or even expect it, but like anything relationships are a two way street things like paying monetary or something like a hug,or kiss, should come naturally and shouldn't be forced or asked for..
I get somewhat peeved if the guy doesn't let me pay sometimes. I am not an angry feminist but I do believe in equality!!!! Of course I don't want the guy to end up being a bum either.
I think a real man, a complete man, will let us pay some of the time.
Watch out for the ones who won't...great possibility he's a control freak!
I think it is fine if the female wants to pay occasionally, helps make the relationship fair. Many of those gender roles were established when girls did not have the rights in this country they have now. Many females couldn't get a job and things like that, so it’s not like they could have paid for the meal in the first place back then. Now government pretty much makes sure that the female to male ratio in the work place is even.
Since we have been dating I see it as a natural progression in our mutual comfort level. I do see it as a way of balancing the relationship as a woman is in every way my equal, why not financially as well.
I do want to say just because she pays does not mean I feel like I have to "put out".
I have been in these situations and always found it to be refreshing. To have a girl buy me a drink shows she is interested in me not just my money. For a girl to plan a date and pay for it is even better. A real turn on. Of course if they do not pay I do not find it unattractive. I do not mind paying and never found myself in a position where I expected a girl to pay for me but it has always turned out nice.
i'm a southern raised gentleman so when a girl does things like this it's just out of the norm...nothing wrong with it...I just feel it's better for a girl to be catered to...my pride can handle her doing something that she feels is nice and for me...
I have no problem if a guy wants to buy me something and he and I have been dating for more than just a few weeks, but wanting to get me something big makes me uncomfortable.
1) I don't like being handed things because I don't want to be owned by them just because they decided to give me something 2) where would they be getting this money 3) if they spend so freely, i see that as a financial problem down the road 4) if he buys me anything/everything under his name and we break up, I don't wanna lose everything in my life if he decides to be a prick and take it all back 5) i'd feel like his child 6) I'd feel like he was buying me off, like something sold in a shop
Financial security-- having a savings account for a rainy day-- impresses me more than buying drinks or anything. If he couldn't chill out long enough for me to pay him back or to do an equivalent favor like buying me a drink or a meal, I couldn't date him. Who the hell wants to date someone that can't make you feel like an equal?
I do admit that if I nabbed a rich guy, though, I would be pissed if he didn't splurge every once in a while, just so long as I actually loved him and he loved me: i'd have to feel like I was granted access to that well of money for him for this to happen. If he was trying to buy me off like a "product of the day," I'd be disgusted by him.
No it doesn't bother me, tho it's not like I'll let her pay for everything
I wouldn't call it emasculating, but sometimes it is a control issue depending on the woman. I've been out with some where everything had to be even-steven because they were afraid of a quid pro quo situation.
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Is be so happy that I would be ready to put out to show my appreciation.