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wicked_jocelyn
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I'm Lib Left, I guess. Pleased that most people here are too.

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I'm Lib Left, I guess. Pleased that most people here are too.

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WellMadeMale
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I cannot remember where I've lifted this from - it may have even come from someone in this thread's past postings @ Lush a few years ago.

I used to believe I was a liberal tree hugger, now I'm convinced I'm more - of a Progressive - than 'just a liberal'. I've felt this way since shortly after Obama took office in January 2009. He turned out to be so disappointing to me. Hope & Change: They fooled me one last time in 2008.


The Progressive Review

How to tell the difference between a progressive and a liberal

Progressives, as liberals did before Reagan, emphasize doing the most for the most – which is how we got socio-economic programs such as Social Security, Medicare, and a minimum wage.

Today’s liberals favor expanding health insurance company profits over expanding Medicare and strongly support Democratic presidents who undermine the very programs that earlier liberals created such as social welfare and Social Security.

Progressives don't act like prudes, puritans and prigs.

Progressives don’t think the commerce clause of the Constitution should be used just because you feel like doing something, such as avoiding single payer health insurance.
There is a huge difference between using the commerce clause to guarantee human rights and using it to subsidize health insurance companies.

Progressives recognize the Green Party and its members as part of a broad coalition. Most liberals act as though Greens were a new kind of HIV.

Progressives try to convince people with whom they disagree, not just scold them.

Progressive oppose the wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq; liberals like them as long as a Democratic president is running them.

Progressives oppose the war on drugs, America’s most masochistic and deadly battle since Vietnam. Liberals treat it with utter indifference.

Progressives believe what people do is more important than how politely they talk about it.

Progressives don't think you should have to go to grad school to have an important role in government.

Progressives respect state and local government; liberals often act like they're a Republican plot. Progressives understand the importance of the devolution of power to the lowest practical level.

Progressives worry about locked doors, liberals about glass ceilings, which is why liberals thought Obama's election would create a post-racial society.

Too many liberals are infatuated with symbolism such as electing a black president, while ignoring the real problems most minorities face in everything from the job market to dealing with the law.

Even progressives who don't own guns respect the right of others who do. Besides, why piss them off the way liberals have done, when they could be allies on a host of other issues, beginning with civil liberties?

But then, progressives still defend civil liberties. Liberals seem to have forgotten about them and ignore Obama's abuse of them.

Progressives pursue issues; liberals support candidates.

Progressives don't give up an issue just because the candidate they voted for is now in office and opposes it.

Liberals love Clinton and Obama while despising the Bushes who preceded them. They don’t seem to notice that our government continued to move to the right under both Democrats and that neither repealed any significant policies of their GOP predecessors

Progressives don't think bailing out banks is an economic stimulus, but that helping to create jobs and stop foreclosures is.

Progressives support local public schools and their teachers; liberals go along with the Bush-Obama attack on public education.

Progressives are not afraid of criticizing Israel for its abusive treatment of Palestine. Liberals either support Israel's criminal actions or are afraid of being called anti-Semites so don't say anything.

Progressives have new ideas; liberals come up with new compromises with the right.

Liberals have become an elite demographic while progressives are a populist movement.

Progressives believe that change is produced by broad coalitions brought together on specific issues, but not necessarily agreeing on all policy.

Liberals believe change will come when everyone acts like they do.
The same GQP demanding we move on from January 6th, 2021 is still doing audits of the November 3rd, 2020 election.
dirtriderco
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Congrats on being a rightwinger and still having the courage to post your results. Most other have less balls than you...



You consider Ivanka a right winger? You are kidding, right??

Ivanka
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Congrats on being a rightwinger and still having the courage to post your results. Most other have less balls than you...


Hmmm...Thanks???

Not sure what "courage" has to do with anything though, this ist a fantasy sex-site, nothing political here can be taken seriously,
especially nothing to be afraid...smiles
Much of the political opinion here can be borderline extremism, biased on all sides, und has no productive benefit, affecting no outcome.
Definitely no reason for me to feel phobic, especially not for my non-threatening political/social preferences.

I'm quite proud und comfortable with where my plot ist located. I'm among extremely good company und neighbors,
about as distant from any extremism that anyone could be...smiles

Personally I wouldn't have any issue with being plotted abit left, right, Liberal, or Conservative as long I was not plotted
an extremist or close to the extremism of any group.

I do realize that most who frequent the rather unimportant political threads on Lush are most often the same
Lushie gaggle of 30 or so, und some are borderline Marxist or Radical extremists, indicated of some shown on
their Scatter-Plot Graph in this thread.
As well there are some others who seemingly identify to be borderline Socialist or Nationalist extremists,
who sometime preach their belief in other obvious baiting political topics.

I wonder?
If I was plotted the exact center origin point on the graph, would I then be considered by many in this thread
as too much an Authoritarian, or would I still be considered as too far right, a "rightwinger" you call it?
My 1 month salary of 5540 € thinks this ist most probable,...very good odds...smiles

Better take caution motoring about the neighborhoods they live though,...
because some peeps at Lush are apparently plotted so close to Marxism or Radicalism on the graph that they
can be hit with flying rocks in protest...smiles
Marxism und Radicalism both like a good stoning just as much other extremisms of Socialism, Nationalism, und Traditionalism...smiles

"Are you a Radical Libertarian?...No?...Then die!...Your Freedom of Speech doesn't count unless you agree with our beliefs.
We know best how everyone should live their life."
"Are you a Radical Libertarian?...Yes?...Hmmm........."Are you a Marxist Radical Libertarian?"...No?...Then die!"...LOL

The same can be said of other extremisms...smiles

My family has lived/worked our farm for over 300 years, und they've had quite their fill of Nationalism,
Socialism, und Marxism long before that.
So no, I haven't such fear of exhibiting my dislike for any extremism, especially not on a fantasy sex-site...smiles

Have a pleasant day. smile

Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51

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Firmly in the left as well, comrade.
Buz
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Progressives don't think bailing out banks is an economic stimulus, but that helping to create jobs and stop foreclosures is.


The Obama 2008 Bailout, bailed out top corporate executives and labor union leaders. Economic stimulus was ineffective and slow. In fact, doing nothing and the economy would've turned around just as fast.

Bailing out banks from the top, meant banks could sit on the money, earning interest, even if it was low. They doled out generous bonuses to CEOs and top execs, and they bought back corporate stock. Meanwhile, home foreclosures were massive and economically destructive.

What should've been done was to bailout the indebted homebuyers. The bailout money required to only pay off home loan debt. It should've been given to pay off home loans entirely or to pay them out of the worst of their debt, and given equally regardless of race, ethnicity, etc. The banks would still have ended up with the money, but the masses of home buyers would've actually benefitted. From the bottom up bailout would've been a solid and effective bailout and not a failure as the Obama bailout was.

And bailout money should've also been given to companies that were not on union contract on an equal basis. Many states were politically left out totally under Obama's plan.
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Quote by DamonX


Congrats on being a rightwinger and still having the courage to post your results. Most other have less balls than you...


You consider Ivanka a right winger?



Thanks...I appreciate your thought, but "literally" my plot ist located in a right quadrant,
even if the insinuation made (rightwinger) ist not accurate assessment of my views, nor the Scatter-Plot Graph,
und the insinuation could be interpreted as attempt to make judgement that anyone being just abit right of the "preferred" center
origin of the graph ist a bad thing.

The most desired plot location, of any moral person, would be center (origin point) of the Scatter-Plot Graph,
not the center of the lower-left green quadrant.

As I asked before...

I wonder?
If I was plotted the exact center origin point on the graph, would I then be considered by many in this thread
as too much an Authoritarian, or would I still be considered as too far right, a "rightwinger" insinuation?
My 1 month salary of 5540 € thinks this ist most probable,...very good odds...smiles

This would indicate to most any logical person, that the typical Leftist/Libertarian (majority political/social group in these kinds of threads)
must think the center of the Scatter-Plot Graph should have it's "origin" point located at the center of their lower-left green quadrant
from which all other people are to be judged.
Do some of these same people recognize how close to extremisms of Marxism und Radicalism their own plot ist located?
Hmmm...Interesting but not surprising.

"Are you a Radical Libertarian?...No?...Then die!"
"Are you a Radical Libertarian?...Yes?...Hmmm.........Are you a Marxist Radical Libertarian?"...No?...Then die!"
..."Freedom of Speech (Human Rights) for all...unless you disagree with our beliefs." (two-faced, Liberal, extremism)
..."We know best how everyone should live their life." (arrogant, Socialist, Marxist, or Radical, Liberal, extremism)
..."We should always be allowed to exercise our rights, no matter what...
even if when we do this it interferes with other's same rights und harms them." (entitled, self-important, Liberal, extremism)

Similar practices are historically correct for any extremism of leftist Socialism or Marxism, right-wing Traditionalism,
Liberal Radicalism, or Conservative Nationalism.
I mean really?... No thanks, not for me or anyone I know,
und I'm quite sure they don't need my help eating their own young.

My favorite "ism"?...Patriotism, having NO influence of any extremism.

I can see that your plot ist in very good company as well, far from any extremism.
The next time you're out roaming about your neighborhood? Say Hallo to George und Tom for me...
Excuse me for a moment...I have Stein on the other line...giggles

Welcome to the forum land of "baiting" political thread topics run amuck,
where you will also most often find someone making an irrelevant political comment in almost any unrelated fun thread here.
They can't seem to get through their day without sneaking in their political view even if the thread ist simply a fun game, having no political quest.
They're everywhere ya go und ya can't seem to SHOO! the little pests away...smiles

Thanks again for your kind thought, but not worry, any seemingly ignorant judging of me ist not important in any sense,
und affects nothing of my day.
The unimportant political rambling by the usual gaggle of the same 30 or so peeps here achieves no benefit,
has no affect on any political/social outcome, und ist most definitely irrelevant to anything on a fantasy sex-site.

You have a pleasant day. smile cyasbyebye...
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lifetooshort4bs
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I, too, prefer cats to humans.



"Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were, but without it we go nowhere.”
― Carl Sagan
Lingerie_Lover
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Economic Left/Right: -7.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.03

Couldn't see how to get a copy of the chart to paste here.
Guest
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I've done this several times. Economically -10, and about -9 on the liberal/authoritarian axis. Exactly where a Trotskyist-anarchist should be, but very pleasantly surprised to find so many semi-fellow travellers here.
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I too am here for the anarchist convention
Sabines
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I forgot to take a screen shot.

I'm kind of close to center but on the left side, which wasn't that surprising.

What WAS surprising was that I was almost to the midway on authoritarianism. I think it's because I admitted that authoritarians can get things done. It doesn't really let you say if you agree with the methods, though.
Most Lush moderators will accept tips (read: bribes).
ComradePete
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Let's face it, any "test" that puts Reagan and the Saudis on equal footing for authoritarianism is complete bullshit.
fog43
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Not quite as Centrist as I thought, at least according to this poll:


Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56
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I agree with 24 of the 26 statements made by Well Made Male. Not agreeing with 2 probably makes me a Liberal and not a Progressive. !. No one needs a gun. You're more likely to win the lottery than have to defend yourself against an armed intruder. But a gun in the house means your kid can become one of the 2,500 that die of gun shot wounds yearly. The 2nd Amendment gives one the right to join the National Guard, not own an AK 47. 2. Sure, let's let the wonderful Palestinians , who are just awfull to women, and blow up Jewish pre schools with rockets, have all of Palestine. Over the decades they've rejected every opertunity to have a state . They are poligimists who teach their children in school that Jews are donkeys and apes and need to be killed. Gaza functioned well when Israelis ran it. Now it is an open sewer. The West Bank is more than big enough for peaceful coexistance. Now instead of talking Abbas wants to incite violence.
WellMadeMale
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The Obama 2008 Bailout, bailed out top corporate executives and labor union leaders. Economic stimulus was ineffective and slow. In fact, doing nothing and the economy would've turned around just as fast.


You know, I find it funny how it's been come to be known as The Obama 2008 Bailout.

It was going to happen, whether John McCain won the presidential election of Nov 2008 or Obama won it. The bailout started in November that year - after Obama won the election...but it started during the last months of the previous worst presidency in modern times...

The W Bailout is what it should be known as. Obama continued it just like he continued using the same group of economic advisors who got us all into that mess - as his primary economic advisors.

Republican economic advisors - in a Democratic Presidential administration - just one of Obama's many gaffes as he made overtures to the Republicans in congress - attempting to act bi-partisan, when he had the political advantage to enact what the people who voted for him - believed him during his campaign - claim he wanted to do.

Hope & Change my ass. We hoped shit would change, but we got more of the same old yellow dog democrat - repubilican-light/corporate-heavy bullshit.
The same GQP demanding we move on from January 6th, 2021 is still doing audits of the November 3rd, 2020 election.
Buz
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You know, I find it funny how it's been come to be known as The Obama 2008 Bailout.

It was going to happen, whether John McCain won the presidential election of Nov 2008 or Obama won it. The bailout started in November that year - after Obama won the election...but it started during the last months of the previous worst presidency in modern times...

The W Bailout is what it should be known as. Obama continued it just like he continued using the same group of economic advisors who got us all into that mess - as his primary economic advisors.

Republican economic advisors - in a Democratic Presidential administration - just one of Obama's many gaffes as he made overtures to the Republicans in congress - attempting to act bi-partisan, when he had the political advantage to enact what the people who voted for him - believed him during his campaign - claim he wanted to do.

Hope & Change my ass. We hoped shit would change, but we got more of the same old yellow dog democrat - repubilican-light/corporate-heavy bullshit.


You're right. It was, in reality, the Obama Bailout as much as it was the Bush Recession. The Recession's overwhelming root cause was the lending system that had been building up for decades. Bush actually warned Congress to do something about the lending laws and practice, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2004. But it was Bush's team that actually put together the 08 Bailout. Basically, all Obama did, was to erase Red States from any stimulus by making corporate stimulus money only available to companies that had contracts with large labor unions, and of course large banking corporations. The large banks just sat on the money, giving bonuses to the top execs and earning interest. Then the banks foreclose on homes anyhow, sat on them until the real estate market bounced back and made even more profit. All the decisions and actions made by Bush and Obama were to benefit politics and power, not the people.

The 2008 Bailout should've started at the bottom by bailing out mortgage holders. The government could've given the people checks payable only toward paying off their mortgage. That way the banks and the people would both benefit and stay above financially sound. Remember how immoral and criminal the banking giants like Wells Fargo and Bank of America handled it, eventually earning huge fines for their transgressions, but growing even larger and stronger, nonetheless.

Another disaster was the enormous decline of independent small banks. And notice now, small mom and pop, and independent businesses struggled to get stimulus money during the Covid-19 shut down. More and more small businesses, independent contractors, and self employed people are the ones going under, adding to America being taken over by the mega-corporations. We are ruled by big government and big corporations. It is just too convenient that the 2008 Great Recession and the Covid-19 Economic Crisis, so close together in history, add up to destroying small independent business, adding to government control over individualism, and in general only benefitting huge corporations and politicians.

All in all, average people are having less voice and choice over their own lives.
Buz
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You're right. It was, in reality, the Obama Bailout as much as it was the Bush Recession. The Recession's overwhelming root cause was the lending system that had been building up for decades. Bush actually warned Congress to do something about the lending laws and practice, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2004. But it was Bush's team that actually put together the 08 Bailout. Basically, all Obama did, was to erase Red States from any stimulus by making corporate stimulus money only available to companies that had contracts with large labor unions, and of course large banking corporations. The large banks just sat on the money, giving bonuses to the top execs and earning interest. Then the banks foreclose on homes anyhow, sat on them until the real estate market bounced back and made even more profit. All the decisions made by the government under Bush and Obama in this were for the benefit of politics and power, not the people.

The 2008 Bailout should've started at the bottom by bailing out mortgage holders. The government could've given the people checks payable only toward paying off their mortgage. That way the banks and the people would both benefit and stay above financially sound. Remember how immoral and criminal the banking giants like Wells Fargo and Bank of America handled it, eventually earning huge fines for their transgressions, but growing even larger and stronger, nonetheless.

Another disaster was the enormous decline of independent small banks. And notice now, small mom and pop, and independent businesses struggled to get stimulus money during the Covid-19 shut down. More and more small businesses, independent contractors, and self employed people are the ones going under, adding to America being taken over by the mega-corporations. We are ruled by big government and big corporations. It is just too convenient that the 2008 Great Recession and the Covid-19 Economic Crisis, so close together in history, add up to destroying small independent business, adding to government control over individualism, and in general only benefitting huge corporations and politicians.

All in all, average people are having less voice and choice over their own lives.
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Not playing... I looked at the questions and it's polemics and polarised. It's flawed too, religion and morality are not a left/right thing.

Modern politicians are all scumbags as far as I am concerned. Liberals are nothing of the sort, they are socialists ashamed to use the word. They do not like their country, happy to barter away its values for wooly concepts that are proven not to work. Progressives are intolerant of facts, too forgiving of their own mistakes, cannot provide a counterpoint without playing the person, and self-selecting into a non-diverse tribe. As for those on the right, they lack the abstract thinking of their forebears and the tolerance they once had. They fail to make the argument, fail to stand on principles.

All of them lack the action, the drive and vision of politicians of old. They lack the ability to find common ground and work together. They lack the ability to understand the public, they see politics as a career, not a calling.

F**k 'em.

And I speak as a classic liberal... social and economic.
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I consider myself more independent than left or right
But I do sway more left that right these days
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I believe in anarchy, and 'm an anarchist!
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Quote by dirtriderco



You consider Ivanka a right winger? You are kidding, right??



She's literally on the right wing of the graph.