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Popular Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow lost his starting job to newly-acquired Peyton Manning on Tuesday and the National Football League team said a decision on his future has not yet been made.

“We’re going through that process now,” John Elway, Denver’s head of football operations, said at Manning’s introductory news conference when asked about Tebow’s status.

Tebow became a sports and cultural phenomenon last season when he made up for his poor accuracy throwing the ball with powerful runs and charismatic leadership. He salvaged Denver’s season with a six-game winning streak that helped them secure a division title and playoff berth.

But his performance was not enough to keep the Broncos from signing 11-time Pro Bowl quarterback Manning to a reported five-year $96 million contract that would give him the league’s top average annual salary.

Tebow, a college-style quarterback whose public displays of religiosity polarized public opinion, became the talk of the NFL and inspired a wide following of fans.

Elway, a Hall of Fame quarterback who won two Super Bowls with Denver, said he spoke with Tebow on Monday evening about the possibilities, which include being traded.

“The toughest thing about this whole thing is Tim Tebow because of what I think of Tim Tebow,” Elway said.

“The things that he did last year was tremendous and helped turn this organization around from a 4-12 team to a playoff team and winning the division. I’ve got a great deal of respect for him as a person and the things that he does.

“We just had to make a decision ... what would be the best opportunity for the Denver Broncos to be competitive for a world championship ... and Peyton Manning was that.”

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Elway said Tebow was disappointed, but did not say so.

“It was a typical Tim Tebow response in the fact that he was very positive. He said, ‘Well, we’re talking about Peyton Manning and I understand exactly what you’re doing.’

“Now we’ll go look at that and see what is the best thing for the Denver Broncos.”

The Jacksonville Jaguars have been mentioned as a possible landing spot for Tebow, who rose to fame at the University of Florida, where he won a pair of BCS national championships and the Heisman Trophy as most outstanding college football player.

The Miami Dolphins, New York Jets and Green Bay Packers were other teams that have reportedly inquired about Tebow.

After being named Denver’s starter last October, Tebow was the talk of the NFL. The phrase ‘Tebow Time’ was coined to capture the fact that five times his Broncos won games with late comebacks despite his woeful 46.5 percent completion rate.

His post-touchdown, knelt-in-prayer pose - known as “Tebowing” - inspired fans around the world. Many have posted pictures of themselves “Tebowing” on sites such as Tebowing.com.

Manning called Tebow a great player, said he has plenty of respect after watching him play last season and would welcome him as a team mate if the Broncos do not trade him.

“If Tim Tebow is here next year I am going to be the best team mate I can be to him, and he and I are going to help this team win games,” said Manning.

“If other opportunities present themselves for him I am going to wish him the best. He is going to be a great player wherever he is.”



What do you think? I need more feedback from other's who have opinions .... because I think the Broncos Management has disregarded a fabulous talent in Tim Tebow.
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Congratulations Denver Bronco's and Peyton Manning. Tebow will be fine.
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There is word on the streets that Peyton Manning's surgery had greatly diminished his mobility and arm strength and that is why Indianapolis did not want to re-sign him. I guess we will not know whether that is true or not until next football season.

Tim Tebow does not fit the finesse style of offense the Broncos want to run. I'd like to see him end up on a team better suited for him. Tebow would be better on a team that plays physical football, strength against strength.

Who would win in a bare knuckle alley fight, Tebow or Manning? Yea, Tebow hands down!
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I like Tebow. And I think John Elway didn't do exactly right by TT for the last year. Never fully supporting his starting QB. Tebow isn't a typical quarterback but in the right system he can be effective. And he DID engineer a playoff run for the Broncos. The more he plays the better he'll get. Alot of people hate Tebow because of his religious contentions. I don't see him shoving his beliefs down anyone's throats, rather he's just being himself.

However, if you have the chance to sign Peyton Manning as your starting QB, go for it. His skills and health may be in question but it's a risk worth taking for some teams. I wouldn't have done it, but I can see why the Broncos did it. Even the most ardent Tebow-ite would have to concede that having one of the 5 best of all time suit up for your team is an upgrade. This deal is a godsend for Elway who never liked Tebow. He can get rid of an enormously popular QB that he despises without offending the fanbase.

Tebow will be traded. Then we'll all have to listen to how he's winning over his teammates with his dedication and hard work all over again. Personally, I think the Jacksonville Jags would be stupid to not sign him and insert him straight into the starting role. They have a good running game and a strong defense. Perfect for Tebow. And in his home state it's an automatic influx of goodwill to their fans.



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I am concern about Peyton Manning’s neck and fearful he is risking a career-ending injury by playing again. I would not have signed him to a five-year $96 million contract to play for my football team, but I hope he does well! I am hearing Tim Tebow is considering playing for the New York Jets.
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My personal opinion of TT is that he has a raw talent that needs nurturing to become that awesome QB that many youngsters will emulate. His religious beliefs don't concern me. It seems that his team mates are in awe of his dedication (as LM stated above).

Regarding PM .... well, he is definitely an amazing QB .... no doubt about that - but the Colts didn't keep him for a reason. How can he be worth $96 million when his health and ability to throw the ball is in question? Yes, PM is definitely a Captain .... but can he really deliver the goods of playing great football again with such uncertainty on his recovery?

It happens numerous times in pro sports where an all-star is sidelined with an injury ..... and how often do they return to the game with the same level or even better? (rarely) They are a year older and a year rusty.

I do believe that TT will continue into a terrific career ..... I just think Elway has been a complete ass to TT .... and TT will forgive Elway and carry on. I think that shows something of TT's character. And, now, I am disappointed in how Elway discarded TT.

Thanks for your thoughts on this ....

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Regarding PM .... well, he is definitely an amazing QB .... no doubt about that - but the Colts didn't keep him for a reason. How can he be worth $96 million when his health and ability to throw the ball is in question? Yes, PM is definitely a Captain .... but can he really deliver the goods of playing great football again with such uncertainty on his recovery?




That's the question, for sure: how much of his former self is left and can be recovered. But remember that even though he signed for $96 Million, contracts aren't guaranteed, so all the Broncos are really on the hook for is $18 Million for this year. Everything after that is contingent upon performance and health.

If I were a Broncos fan, I'd support this move fully. I cheered for Tebow, I thought his run was a lot of fun, but if I was emotionally invested in his team, I'd feel very, very shaky about going forward indefinitely with him as the quarterback. Not that Peyton is sure-fire either, but it's hard to fault Elway's logic here. The only way he'll get clobbered by the fans and in the media is if Peyton plays like he's 80 and hobbles off after one year, and Tebow sets the world on fire wherever he goes. Though both are possible, I think the latter is considerably less likely.
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That's the question, for sure: how much of his former self is left and can be recovered. But remember that even though he signed for $96 Million, contracts aren't guaranteed, so all the Broncos are really on the hook for is $18 Million for this year. Everything after that is contingent upon performance and health.

If I were a Broncos fan, I'd support this move fully. I cheered for Tebow, I thought his run was a lot of fun, but if I was emotionally invested in his team, I'd feel very, very shaky about going forward indefinitely with him as the quarterback. Not that Peyton is sure-fire either, but it's hard to fault Elway's logic here. The only way he'll get clobbered by the fans and in the media is if Peyton plays like he's 80 and hobbles off after one year, and Tebow sets the world on fire wherever he goes. Though both are possible, I think the latter is considerably less likely.



I like Tebow, and I cheered for him too. He's just a good story. Hard working dude, beats the odds, come-from-behind victories... and all in the face of a coach/management team that was secretly wishing he'd fail so they'd have cause to bench/trade/release him. I'm not a Broncos fan so I don't really have a dog in this fight. I can't blame Elway for going with PM. In his mind it's a risk worth taking even if PM fails because the Broncos will be rid of TT either way. And if Elway weren't such a Denver Bronco legend, he'd have been in the crosshairs long ago. Any other GM/Team Pres that have tried to derail the TT train would have been crucified.

If i were running the Broncos, I'd have kept Tebow and moved forward. Spent all the money needed to train him and improve his QB skills. And surround him with the appropriate talent to have him and the team excel. The NFL landscape is scattered with extremely physically talented quarterbacks who have no drive or ambition. They've gotten by on talent alone for so long, they don't know how to work at it once the playing field is leveled. I'd take the Tim Tebows of the world over JaMarcus Russell, Jeff George, Ryan Leaf, Todd Marinovich... anyday. All those guys had ENORMOUS talent but didn't give a shit about the team or winning. Just their own egos.

Tebow is raw. But I'd take his drive and determination over half the starting qbs in the league. Look at the teams with shitty QB play last year.... Seattle (they've upgraded), Minnesota, Miami, Jacksonville, Washington, Jets, Browns, Cardinals, Cowboys, Raiders. Most of those teams could and HAVE done a whole lot worse than Tim Tebow.

Sorry for being so long winded. I have being so damn verbose.



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Even the most ardent Tebow-ite would have to concede that having one of the 5 best of all time suit up for your team is an upgrade. This deal is a godsend for Elway who never liked Tebow. He can get rid of an enormously popular QB that he despises without offending the fanbase.


Elway had to do this move. He never wanted Tebow. But was forced into playing him. But how can the fans argue with replacing him with Peyton Manning. Peyton is an all-time great (even though his brother is better right now, LOL!) Now if Peyton's health is a problem again, then even a Denver icon like Elway will probably pay with his job, but you cant argue with the logic.

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Tebow will be traded. Then we'll all have to listen to how he's winning over his teammates with his dedication and hard work all over again. Personally, I think the Jacksonville Jags would be stupid to not sign him and insert him straight into the starting role. They have a good running game and a strong defense. Perfect for Tebow. And in his home state it's an automatic influx of goodwill to their fans.


A Florida team would make sense from a PR standpoint, although I believe the Jaguars spent a lot on a rookie QB last year. But will Tebow ever be a great QB? I doubt it. He just doesnt seem to have the skills. His work ethic and leadership ability will only take him so far. He needs to be in the perfect situation. Miami may be good since they are awful and can build the team around him to suit his ability.

Rumor here in NY is that he may be traded to the Jets. As a Giant fan and Rex Ryan hater, Id love to see that. Seeing how Timmy deals with a blow hard like Ryan would make for some great TV. Rex just doesnt seem like a Tebow kind of coach. Can you just picture Rex Tebowing, LOL!!

But where ever Tebow ends up I wish him well. He is a great role model for kids, he is devoted to his faith but never seems to push his beliefs on others and is just an all around good guy. The sports world needs more guys like him and less of the arrogant ego maniacs that are so prevelent today.
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Tebow is raw. But I'd take his drive and determination over half the starting qbs in the league. Look at the teams with shitty QB play last year.... Seattle (they've upgraded), Minnesota, Miami, Jacksonville, Washington, Jets, Browns, Cardinals, Cowboys, Raiders. Most of those teams could and HAVE done a whole lot worse than Tim Tebow.

Sorry for being so long winded. I have being so damn verbose.


I like Tebow too. But I am not sure he would be a better QB option than a lot of the teams you mentioned. Minn and Jacksonville both drafted QB last year so they need time to develop, Oakland traded for a good QB during the season and although I hate Tony Romo, I dont think Tebow will ever be as good of a QB as he is. The Cardinals signed a QB last year who was hurt so he needs to have his shot too. Miami, Cleve and Wash could be good options.

Timmy would be best as a change of pace goal line type QB. Kind of like Philly did with the dog killer when they first signed him.

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Tim Tebow is a cool guy. I saw him at a restaurant and he spoke to me and was friendly to everyone. He didn't act like some celebrity snob or anything at all, just a real regular guy. I have only ever heard good stuff about him. He is a great competitor and he's a winner. I would love to see him come to the Jags. The people here would love that.
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I like Tebow too. But I am not sure he would be a better QB option than a lot of the teams you mentioned. Minn and Jacksonville both drafted QB last year so they need time to develop, Oakland traded for a good QB during the season and although I hate Tony Romo, I dont think Tebow will ever be as good of a QB as he is. The Cardinals signed a QB last year who was hurt so he needs to have his shot too. Miami, Cleve and Wash could be good options.

Timmy would be best as a change of pace goal line type QB. Kind of like Philly did with the dog killer when they first signed him.

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Some of those teams could easily upgrade to Tebow. Romo has the physical skills but he's proven to not handle pressure very well. He isn't very good in the clutch. I'm a Cowboys fan, a little bit. And I despise Romo. But yea, I doubt they'd go from Romo to Tebow.

The guy in Jacksonville, Blaine Gabbert is not good. He was a system QB in college at Missouri. Same style that Texas Tech, Houston, Hawaii run. They put up great numbers in that system. Gabbert, Klingler, Harrell, Colt Brennan. Tebow would be a huge upgrade from Gabbert. Just my opinion.

Oakland is one that will have better QB play this season after Carson Palmer has time to practice with his team. Or will they start Jason Campbell?

I think he'll end up in Florida, probably with Jags. The owner there is struggling and he'll see this as a business move. Home grown Tebow will put butts in the seats, and he can't really do much worse than Gabbert. The huge increase in revenue that Tebow would bring to the Jags would be smart just from a business sense. I bet they'd sell more Tebow jerseys in one year than all other jerseys combined in the last 10 years.

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So now he is NY Jet!!! How dumb is that!!! I feel for him, having to play for Rex Ryan. That trade makes no sense for the Jets from a football point of view. But their owner Woody Johnson would have signed Osama Bin Laden if he thought he would fill seats and sell jerseys. And if he thinks Tebow is gonna bring harmony to that dysfunctional locker room, he is even more clueless than I think he is.

Good Luck Timmy!! Better say some extra prayers tonight!!
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Maybe he has nice feet...that will work in his favor.
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Maybe he has nice feet...that will work in his favor.


HAHA!!
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If Tim Tebow couldn't learn how to throw a 15 yard out pattern in 4 years at one of the better football programs in the nation, in an environment designed to teach developing talents the fundamentals, what reason is there to believe that he will ever learn? His work ethic was never in question, so it's not like he wasn't paying attention. For whatever reason, he just can't throw that. And the good teams know that. How many of his wins last year came against winning teams? How many of his wins actually came because of him? The wins last season had far more to do with the defense keeping the game close, and Matt Prater having nerves of steel to kick game tying or game winning field goal after game winning or game tying field goal. A win on a last second 60 yard field goal is not a win because of the QB. No other team even considers that succeeding in getting into field goal range.

Tim Tebow is an incredible athlete, and by all accounts a great person. But neither of those are reasons to build a team around him. He's perfectly suited to be the next Slash. Bring him in for goal line, short yardage, and line him up at other positions for the occasional trick play. But start him at QB against a good team next year, and you are going to see far more games like you saw against Buffalo and New England.

There's an article on espn.com about this. You take Peyton because even if he fails, he got you free of Tim Tebow without the fan base being mad. It was a logical gamble. And worst case scenario you can draft or sign an unproven quarterback next year without the drama of the Tebow faithful calling for him to start the moment the replacement struggles.
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I agree with almost all of that.

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If Tim Tebow couldn't learn how to throw a 15 yard out pattern in 4 years at one of the better football programs in the nation, in an environment designed to teach developing talents the fundamentals, what reason is there to believe that he will ever learn?


Tebow supporters, though, might make the argument that Urban Meyer wasn't in any way preparing Tebow for life as an NFL quarterback, as that's not his objective. College coaches are paid and supported to win games, and he had the perfect guy in Tebow to run his spread option all the way to the National Title. He was able to complete fifteen yard outs when he had the front seven and corners faked into a hand-off, and none of the patterns were timed, so that pro-precision aspect was never honed; it just wasn't the kind of offense Florida ran.

Now that he's in the NFL, there are those who believe that they can fix his weird mechanics and teach him to read multiple look defenses, filled with 4.3-speed linebackers and schemed by defensive chess-masters. Tebow's still playing a bit of checkers out there. I wish him well; I just wouldn't bet on it.
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Seems like the trade to the Jets may fall through. All the other teams that were interested in trading for him read his contract and knew about the additional $5 Million owed. But not the Jets. Most probably when Rex was reading the contract he spilled his BBQ sauce on that clause!!!

And Xuani you are so right. Most people seem to think College Football is the minor leagues for the NFL where their only objective is to win games and make the alumni happy so they keep giving donantions!!
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I agree with almost all of that.

Tebow supporters, though, might make the argument that Urban Meyer wasn't in any way preparing Tebow for life as an NFL quarterback, as that's not his objective. College coaches are paid and supported to win games, and he had the perfect guy in Tebow to run his spread option all the way to the National Title. He was able to complete fifteen yard outs when he had the front seven and corners faked into a hand-off, and none of the patterns were timed, so that pro-precision aspect was never honed; it just wasn't the kind of offense Florida ran.

Now that he's in the NFL, there are those who believe that they can fix his weird mechanics and teach him to read multiple look defenses, filled with 4.3-speed linebackers and schemed by defensive chess-masters. Tebow's still playing a bit of checkers out there. I wish him well; I just wouldn't bet on it.



You've coached football at the University level somewhere in the last 6 or 7 years, haven't you? Smartest comments in this thread by far.

First round draft choices (especially quarterbacks) to play professional NFL grade football, should have all the skills already polished and be able to hit the ground running. Contribute to their squad from their 1st game, not hold a clipboard, wear their ball cap backwards and generally be told that they need to work on three or four mechanical 'things' for a few years. You don't pay a guy gazillions of dollars to 'learn the game' in the pro's. That's what high school and then 3 to 4 years of college ball is for.

Tebow = Fail as a pro-style NFL QB.
Denver paying 18 million to a guy who is 36, hasn't played in a year, 3 neck surgeries in one year and 1 experimental stem cell treatment in Europe - major desperation move to also put fans back in the stands.

It will be fun watching the Broncos trying to come together on offense this year, and decipher the barks and quirky arm gestures that Manning will be throwing at them. Then watching as Manning (ever/never the team player) bitches and whines and casts blame at everyone but himself for another 3 and out.

Josh McDaniels was sent by Bill Belicheat to destroy the Denver franchise and - mission accomplished.

Now that the Jets admit they didn't read the fine print of Tebow's contract before tweeting to the world - "We Have Timmah!"...unless Denver swallows the pre-paid 5 million to the son of god... that deal dies on the vine and Jacksonville - here he comes!

I'd laugh if no other team wanted him and he had to stay on the Denver squad to cause hellfire within their loyalty shifting fan base.
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In both cases, they are guys who believe, one in ability and one in ability he's been given. I doubt any such enlistment would have come without in-depth medical scrutiny. And, if it did, well then, here's to a guy whose trying to beat the odds. As for any career ending injury, I seriously doubt he (Manning) would have any trouble in transitioning from player to coach. I've never seen a player who could wave off the offensive coaches, but he did, many times, and to everyone's benefit. The only question I have is, Jimbo! What the hell were you thinking? Not a Colt fan, but I just see something in this guy, more than his brother. Sincerity, hard work, and a will to win.

Much like Tebow. Good luck to them both. They do deserve it.
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I love all your inputs .... because I seem to have a loyalty issue (Elway being a dick in my eyes - no LM, Elway did NOT put his dick in my eyes) ... and sometimes I don't see the strategy or the other deciding factors as you have all graciously pointed out.

I am very much enjoying the story unfolding in the news, on Twitter ... and the observations of the armchair QBs and coaches here at Lush ....

Interesting point about the clause in TT's contract. I know of a great law firm that I could suggest to have alleviated an embarrassment as that!

Thank you Lushies!!
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Oh, PA... Eldonk is a dick and a complete slacktard executive too. He's lost a few key players to his team while pursuing Manning. Hasn't really added any other talent to their roster...and appears close to maybe inking a couple of other over the hill former Colts to the Denver 2012 team.

There is so much fail in Denver all around. As a Chiefs fan I am just enjoying the show.
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Oh, PA... Eldonk is a dick and a complete slacktard executive too. He's lost a few key players to his team while pursuing Manning. Hasn't really added any other talent to their roster...and appears close to maybe inking a couple of other over the hill former Colts to the Denver 2012 team.

There is so much fail in Denver all around. As a Chiefs fan I am just enjoying the show.


yay!!! I thought he was dick!!

Feels good to have some confirmation.

I think the 2012-2013 season will be very interesting!! I wanna lay down a $20 that Peyton does not take them to the SuperBowl. I wonder if Vegas has such a line ... "who won't win the SuperBowl". I do know, I keep laying down a $20 every year in Vegas hoping like hell the Eagles find their way! hahahaha
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I'm glad this media driven (ESPN, in particular) Tebow-mania has to be put to bed. While not the prototypical QB, Tebow is one helluva competitor and football player. Denver did as well as a TEAM, very good defense, very good kicker, probably some good luck. Let's give a little credit to the coaching staff there to build off his limited abilities. Tebow did what any 1st round draft pick is supposed to do, be a major contributor to the teams winning. Elway casted Tebow off with the only player available that he could w/out a major sh*tstorm. But if Peyton doesn't work out, Elway will be under serious fire.

Now that he's a Jet, go luck w/Rex and the rest of the dysfunctional locker room. He will push Sanchez, who lacks leadership skills for that team. He has Tony Sparano as his offensive co coordinator who will do some wildcat stuff. Just another football gimmick.

The AFC East will be tighter this yr as I think Buffalo and Miami will be better. New England will probably win the division with a 10-6 type record.
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Tebow obviously got the raw end of the deal from Denver’s Front Office. Going back to last offseason, Tebow was supposedly crowned the starting QB because Orton was being traded to Miami. That fell through, so Tim was sent back to the bench. During the season while Denver was hot, Tebow never really had the backing of the Front Office.

Both Front Office personnels and coaches would look into the camera and speak well of Tebow, but you can hear it in their voices and see it on their faces, they never really believed in him. You got to understand, Elway inherited Tebow from the previous Front Office, so Tebow was never his guy. This really showed up in interviews. One week Elway would be iffy about Tebow, next week Elway is all in on Tebow. At the end of the season, Elway did not display real confidence in saying that Tebow would be the definite Starter next season, but said he will bring in someone to challenge him.

Denver should’ve kept Tebow as their backup QB. As a backup he could’ve learn from one of the NFL’s best QB in history, and fine tune his skills. Manning is already old, he has to retire sometime. If and when he does retire, Denver still had Tebow as a backup QB, he could come in, and pick up where Manning left off. But, as of tonight, that’s not happening, as Tim just got traded to NYJ. SMDH.

From the Denver’s Front Office point of view, I understand why you would want to bring Manning in. We are talking about a Superbowl Champ, 4-time MVP, and numerous Probowls in Manning. Last week, Manning invited Denver’s Front Office and Coaches to Duke University for a private workout. Coming off 3 neck surgery in 1 year, and not playing within the last year, Denver must have really saw something in him to offer the contract that they did.

Us being on the outside looking in, we are going to have to wait until minicamp, preseason, and regular season to find out what Manning really has left. We’re definitely going to find out whenever a DL/LB gets free and puts Manning on his back couple times.

As for Tebow, he is a classy and successful guy. Has won on the last two levels he has played, and it’s only a matter of time before he does on the NFL stage. He just needs the opportunity, the right system, and most of all... belief from management. I hope it really works out for him with the New York Jets.
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Denver should’ve kept Tebow as their backup QB. As a backup he could’ve learn from one of the NFL’s best QB in history, and fine tune his skills. Manning is already old, he has to retire sometime. If and when he does retire, Denver still had Tebow as a backup QB, he could come in, and pick up where Manning left off.

Us being on the outside looking in, we are going to have to wait until minicamp, preseason, and regular season to find out what Manning really has left. We’re definitely going to find out whenever a DL/LB gets free and puts Manning on his back couple times.

As for Tebow, he is a classy and successful guy. Has won on the last two levels he has played, and it’s only a matter of time before he does on the NFL stage. He just needs the opportunity, the right system, and most of all... belief from management. I hope it really works out for him with the New York Jets.


I agree!

Seriously ... I am understanding a bit more of behind the scenes .... but sometimes, it's what is up front and obvious that is the real story. I really dislike Elway for this shit .... really .... it goes against what I had thought of him originally .... I hope Tebow FLOURISHES in NY ... and dumps Elway's ass on the ground with his success. Elway's still an ass in my books.
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Miami better? Well I guess Gerrard (roll the R's with me folks, it makes it funnier) is a good bet, considering that the executive staff doesn't have a brain between the lot of them. They will again be the new Aint's of the 21st Century as long as the Rams don't suck wind as well.

Wanna place 20? 20 says they don't win more than six. Glad I'm a Steelers fan, and happy to see Ward take leave with dignity, which he deserves.

I did take interest in the thought that Elway is served best by this, and allowed to cut Tebow with a great excuse. "Hey, I got the best and he didn't come through, not my fault I ditched Tebow."
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Denver should’ve kept Tebow as their backup QB. As a backup he could’ve learn from one of the NFL’s best QB in history, and fine tune his skills. Manning is already old, he has to retire sometime. If and when he does retire, Denver still had Tebow as a backup QB, he could come in, and pick up where Manning left off. But, as of tonight, that’s not happening, as Tim just got traded to NYJ. SMDH.



Denver needed to scale back the offense so much in order to make Tebow semi-successful. Him trying to run Peyton Manning's offense would be so comical.

People, I love Tim Tebow. He is a good guy and it makes for a great story but be realistic, he is not and most probably never will be a great NFL QB. He just doesnt have the skills and hard work only takes you so far. Sorry for all the Tebow lovers but facts are facts!

Will Peyton Manning win in Denver? Maybe, Maybe not. But it was a move that had to be tried. Call Elway dumb, a dick, anything you want. But ask any NFL GM who they would rather have leading their team and I bet all will say Peyton Manning!!
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