Hello everyone!
I'm absolutely horrendous at editing my own writing prior to submission. Yes, I've read, re-read, and "know" all the rules of grammar, etcetera.
However, when I go to edit or check my work I don't "see" my own errors, I more or less "see" what I meant, rather than what I wrote. I'm sure that the moderators now probably give my stories to each other as punishment!
I'd like to have a much more keen sense of editing and structure. It isn't that I don't know, I just don't catch my own errors.
Do you have any tricks or methods that you use to maximize your accuracy when you self-edit your own work?
thank you
K
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look over your story from bottom to top for grammatical and spelling errors and typoes. That way you won't be reading the story, just looking at the words. It's easier to catch. Also, I suggest reading it out loud from top to bottom.
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
On the first read-through, I change the font size and face to something very different from what I write in. The change in appearance and position of the words on screen will sometimes cause errors jump out at you. The first read is for flow and continuity errors, though I'll correct grammar when I come across it.
Next I run it through the Grammar checkers in Wordperfect and Word. Neither are perfect, and they don't always agree, but every time one stops to alert you, there's a chance of finding something that could be tweaked.
Next it goes into text-to-speech. The free ones have robotic voices, and they'll always mispronounce some words, but you'll probably be amazed how many you->your/his->her type errors you'll catch hearing it read to you. If you can spring for a paid version, the voices are often more natural, and the better ones let you tweak pronunciation of common words ( like pussy, which mine butchered and drove me nuts with ) and character names via phonetic spelling in a pronunciation editor.
The final step used to be sending it off to my editor, but unfortunately, he retired after years of invaluable assistance. The search to find someone I meshed with was exhausting, and I haven't felt up to wading into the process again. So apologies to the mods for how many comma tweaks they have to do to my stuff nowadays.
Hadn't considered changing the font size/face for editing. That's a neat idea, thanks for sharing. Part of the reason things get missed is because the brain is tricked into skipping words, and this is especially true due to familiarity with word order and position.
Otherwise, yeah, all the good advice above. Reading aloud, even muttering under your breath as you read, is a fab way to figure out if sentences are too long or don't flow, or need commas for pauses. Or require a tweak/rewrite.
My biggest problem when writing is not carrying on from where I left off, but going back to the beginning to reread, and I end up editing some of it, work my way to the part I stopped at last time, and run out of steam.
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Not sure it has been mentioned yet, but I usually let a story "simmer" before I do a final edit. Just ignore it for 24 hours (or more). Things that completely went by me previously tend to come out when I go back at it after a long break.
That said, as Kistin said, micros don't really require all that. I usually just let them "simmer" for maybe a couple hours if at all. I have written a micro in the morning and had it up by end of day. After all, there's only so much even a nitpicky editor like me can do with 100 words.
I believe self-editing it's impossible. For how many times you read it, being the one who wrote it, you'll miss typo or other mistakes like name changes. I have a friend who reads my work and I read his. Find a friend who can read your work.
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Having the computer read it aloud to you is the ultimate editor, IMO... Here is my process that took me a year to get to this point and even that is not foolproof:
Scrivener editor first go around
Cut and paste to word- word editor second go around
Have your computer read it aloud to you
Make edits based on reading it aloud (Word doc to Lush friends or Beta readers also works here if you have a friend to read it for you)
Cut and paste to Lush- Grammarly editor (Remember that Grammarly- at least the free version- does a crap job at dialog and dialog punctuation)
Final read through- push submit
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART that no one has mentioned yet!:
Once accepted I go back and look at what the mods changed so I learn from my mistakes. It made me a much better writer in the long run- now I'm an advanced idiot. If I had questions on the changes I'd google it. If that didn't work, I'd politely PM whomever verified it and ask a question so I didn't make the same mistake on the subsequent submission.
It's all a process, but if you want to get better, Lush certainly helps with that compared to other sites that will publish anything, IMO...
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I feel that my biggest weakness, other than being a rank amateur, in my writing is that I am too close to the thoughts behind the words and thusly don't read or hear the words themselves, only the intent behind them. I'm also in a big rush to move on to the next thing (thanks to my moderator friend for pointing out that blatantly obvious point that i was ignoring). With that in mind, I have decided that my next story, while hopefully as torrid as I think it is, will deal with something that is really messing with my heart and mind. Because I am emotionally close to the events, that should make me take pause so I can choose the proper phrasing. I'll also hopefully recruit a small militia of folks that wouldn't mind reading it as a work in progress as the muse strikes me. That will hopefully give me good, organic, feedback in the moment rather than afterwards when I feel that the story is complete.
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I don't let other people read my work before publication unless it's a novel and I'm paying a real editor to go through it, or if it's a non-sexual short story that I will read aloud to my family--or anyone who will listen. Otherwise, it's a three step process.
1) Of course, I re-read my work for the day, run the spelling and grammar checkers, but this is almost totally useless. Nearly a complete waste of time. So, in addition to that, I have the Google Docs read-aloud add-in read my story into my headphones. Why headphones? Nobody wants to hear my agonizing repeatedly if I should use cum, or jizz or maybe juice or fuck her ass, no plow her tender behind, no, how about ram her back door. Insert screaming sound effect.
2) When I'm done with the whole thing, I re-read and re-grammar check the entire story. Sometimes I even find things that way. Then I have the reader talk me through the entire story. Then I find LOTS of issues. Lots and lots of them. Always. Even when the darned computer has already read every word to me at least once before!
3) Finally, when everything is a good as I can possibly make it, but still not as good as I really want it, I copy and paste into Lush. Then, like those above who change the font and size, suddenly even more errors magically appear. This time, I read the story off the Lush edit page, aloud if I'm alone, or very critically and slowly if I feel I need to be discreet.
I would be willing to coax special attention out of the Lush editors by offering sexual favors, but they do a great job without all that (and I'm not sure they'd want my vanilla ass anyway). NOTE: Special thanks to all the volunteer editors on Lush. You are the best!
That's as much as I can stand. More editing than that, and I start to get crazy migraines and episodes of OCD manifesting as nail chewing--fingers and toes!
Good luck!
The answer is poorly.
Sad fact is i cannot see many of my mistakes when i proofread. For some reason my mind fills them in and i have to make myself slow down a lot to have any hope at all. i know i need to improve at proofreading, but so far those skills have escaped me The best thing is to read aloud, but sometimes it get impatient because i haven't read aloud since grammar school.
Wouldn't you rather have a nice cup of tea?
I just get it right the first time, so I don't have to edit later.
Okay, kidding. I do make my share of mistakes. A Spell/grammar checker can be helpful to catch minor errors, but you have to be cautious because while it catches about 85% of errors, some of those errors could be intentional style choice (especially when it comes to dialog). Also, because they don't do well with context, they are prone to making almost as many errors as they fix.
I find letting a story rest for a few days and then returning with fresh eyes is probably the safest approach to DIY editing.
Don't believe everything that you read.
I have used two techniques that may or may not work for everybody. First, since I seldom write more than a few paragraphs at one setting, when I go back to write, I read the story, article, whatever, from the beginning watching for sentence flow and other typical writing issues. After I have finished the piece, I may have read it more than 5 times which increases the chances of picking up basic mistakes. Secondly, I read the piece aloud. This is not foolproof because we can read what we want to say rather than what was written, but it is a good tool. I had never heard of having a program read the piece back to me. That should work very well too and I will probably be trying it soon.