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Do stories by female authors get more attention than stories by males?

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While researching this subject I found this online writing Gender-checker.

I wouldn't put too much store by it, offered up here merely as an interesting parlour trick.

Shame we can't cut and past from Lush Stories.
Stormdog
Gentleman Stranger
I think that women do get read more, at least initially as new authors, than males do, so yes, it's probably a little easier for a female to break into it and get read. For the numbers to hold up, though, you have to be doing something right. If the stories are not decently written and thus not appreciated the readers go away, regardless of what gender wrote it.

One anecdotal thing I use as evidence: I used the image below as my avatar for awhile, just because I like it. My profile page views went way up during that time and my stories - even the older ones - definitely got more attention.



Of course, I also got a lot of pokes and suggestive BB messages from guys, despite my profile clearly showing that I'm male. Just goes to show you how carefully guys read when they have their dick in one hand and the other on the keyboard. I did make some new friends...
GrushaVashnadze
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Quote by LucaByDesign
Why the name, though? I know its provenance but why did you choose it for this account?

I've just always been a Brecht fan, and thought Grusha Vashnadze would work better than Polly Peachum or Mother Courage. Pirate Jenny might have been good though, come to think of it...

GrushaVashnadze's best stories:

Alison Goes to London (RR) - "love this... fun, and funny, and sexy" (sprite)

The Cursed Cunt (RR) - "holyyyyy sheeeiiit.... Your writing is fucking fantastic" (CarltonStJames)

A Worthless Filthy Fucking Smoking Trash Cunt Whore (RR) - "Brilliantly done. Of course." (naughtyannie)

Snow White and the Seven Dildos (RR) - "Fuck. It's perfect.... honestly genius and so fucking well executed." (VioletVixen)

Metamorphoses (RR) - "so imaginative and entertaining" (saucymh)

And There Came Two Angels to Sodom - "What a deliciously worded story! So juicy, so raunchy" (el_henke)

Fuck-Talk (with VioletVixen) - "Jeez. I feel rendered wordless by how much clever fucking fun this is" (Jaymal)
GrushaVashnadze
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Quote by Mysteria27
Most people want to jerk off to a story that’s dirty and nasty.

Porn stories are what readers want.


Thanks, Mysteria, for being honest and unpretentious enough to say that. I frequently need reminding of that fact.

GrushaVashnadze's best stories:

Alison Goes to London (RR) - "love this... fun, and funny, and sexy" (sprite)

The Cursed Cunt (RR) - "holyyyyy sheeeiiit.... Your writing is fucking fantastic" (CarltonStJames)

A Worthless Filthy Fucking Smoking Trash Cunt Whore (RR) - "Brilliantly done. Of course." (naughtyannie)

Snow White and the Seven Dildos (RR) - "Fuck. It's perfect.... honestly genius and so fucking well executed." (VioletVixen)

Metamorphoses (RR) - "so imaginative and entertaining" (saucymh)

And There Came Two Angels to Sodom - "What a deliciously worded story! So juicy, so raunchy" (el_henke)

Fuck-Talk (with VioletVixen) - "Jeez. I feel rendered wordless by how much clever fucking fun this is" (Jaymal)
KimmiBeGood
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Stormdog, your current "Christmas nipple" avatar will get you some attention as well! Hahaha!
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Quote by Stormdog

Of course, I also got a lot of pokes and suggestive BB messages from guys, despite my profile clearly showing that I'm male. Just goes to show you how carefully guys read when they have their dick in one hand and the other on the keyboard. I did make some new friends...



Loved the profile image, Stormy.

I once used an avatar image on Lush that was mostly the face of a beautiful woman. I soon learned my mistake. Immediately afterward I changed it to the image below, which certainly sent those inattentive befrienders running for the hills.
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Thanks, Mysteria, for being honest and unpretentious enough to say that. I frequently need reminding of that fact.



Really, Grusha? I'd never have guessed.
GrushaVashnadze
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Quote by LucaByDesign
Really, Grusha? I'd never have guessed.

Ha ha! Even I can get guilt-tripped by all the powers-that-be telling me that my writing is "vulgar" and "disgusting"... for a while... [smiles innocently]

GrushaVashnadze's best stories:

Alison Goes to London (RR) - "love this... fun, and funny, and sexy" (sprite)

The Cursed Cunt (RR) - "holyyyyy sheeeiiit.... Your writing is fucking fantastic" (CarltonStJames)

A Worthless Filthy Fucking Smoking Trash Cunt Whore (RR) - "Brilliantly done. Of course." (naughtyannie)

Snow White and the Seven Dildos (RR) - "Fuck. It's perfect.... honestly genius and so fucking well executed." (VioletVixen)

Metamorphoses (RR) - "so imaginative and entertaining" (saucymh)

And There Came Two Angels to Sodom - "What a deliciously worded story! So juicy, so raunchy" (el_henke)

Fuck-Talk (with VioletVixen) - "Jeez. I feel rendered wordless by how much clever fucking fun this is" (Jaymal)
HeraTeleia
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Quote by LucaByDesign



That sounds quite plausible. It would be interesting to do a double-blind trial in a controlled environment.


There have been dozens, reaching back to the turn of the 19th century, when the linguistic differences were used to argue against granting women the right to vote. It's not my field, but there are definitely double-blind trials out there.

ETA: I ran one of my stories, Drill Day, through the gender thingy, and it came up very masculine. I think the gender thingy is just telling me that the story has a more masculine tone, not actually giving the sex of the author.
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Quote by HeraTeleia


There have been dozens, reaching back to the turn of the 19th century, when the linguistic differences were used to argue against granting women the right to vote. It's not my field, but there are definitely double-blind trials out there.

ETA: I ran one of my stories, Drill Day, through the gender thingy, and it came up very masculine. I think the gender thingy is just telling me that the story has a more masculine tone, not actually giving the sex of the author. [/quote

Yeah, I thought that too.

I came across a study (or article. Not very scientific) that compared male and female established writers from the last couple of centuries. Due to the social-sexual mores of any given age, there can be little wonder the differences show in their writings.


What I would find particularly interesting is to see is if accomplished writers of either sex can deliberately fool an expert in linguistics. That is more the kind of experiment I would be fascinated to seei the results of — rather than merely spotting those that occur naturally.

This thread has set my mind off on an interesting paper-trail.
Meagananne1986
Sexy Seductive Siren
Just my opinion without really doing the research needed to truly back my opinion up. I suspect, that men are more likely to read a story written by an author because of a latent double standard. That is, women are still preferred to be chaste and innocent unless being naughty and sexual with him. I agree, there might be some men who actually want to share their wife/girlfriend with other men and women who would like their husband/boyfriend to share them (and, I have to assume that the same applies to same-sex unions regardless of gender as well), but I strongly believe, from personal experience, that most men/women prefer monogamous relationships. Also, generally, again from experience, I have found men more predatory than women. At least, men have, and still do (even those who KNOW that I'm married and have a family) "hit" on me. Believe me, I can tell the difference between innocent flirting and trying to get the "forbidden fruit." I strongly believe men are still the hunter and women are still the hunted. So when a woman writes a story of sexual desire, interest, debauchery, or whatever, it is going to get read, by both men and women. A story written by a man, however, is likely to be written by more women than men. Just my opinion.

Also, without having the statistical proof, I suspect that Lush, and sites like Lush, draw far more men members than women members. Again, just my opinion.
Meagan
Brookell
A legend in my own mind!
I would think so, but using anecdotal evidence rather than anything more specific. When I had a pic of me on my profile, I got a lot of unwanted attention even though my profile stated my preferences for contact. I started coming in set to Invisible because I got tired of the pop-ups. Based on that, I would have to think it would carry over into story attention. My assumption is there are many more male members here than female.


If that's true and the attention I got as a woman also increases my profile and story views. Even now when I am visible I get much more attention from men than women, even though my pic is currently a cute kitten. So my guess is women writers probably do get more attention than male ones. I am almost tempted to create a male profile and post a couple of stories and see how quickly they reach a certain number of views, but then I also realized I would need a new female profile or my friends and followers viewing would skew the data. Not planning on it, but it might be worth considering.

If I was still in college, it might make an interesting thesis paper :-)

I do find one minor interesting note, not sure if it might relate. The two stories of mine that have had the most attention are "Conversations with Jessie" from the Trans category, and "My Boyfriend has a Kinky Mom" from the Strap-on category. Wonder how the category interests are gender based?
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Mushroom0311
Advanced Wordsmith
Quote by KimmiBeGood
I was discussing this with a male author yesterday. Just wondered what others think. Do you think female authors typically receive more votes and comments than male authors? If yes, why?

I find the female vs male talent on Lush to be pretty equal. But, like in my recent Flash Fiction story, which was barely more than a micro, I received a lot more votes/comments than the Recommended Reads surrounding me, authored by males. Their stories bested mine in every way, so where were their votes/comments? Just something I have noticed and I think they probably noticed and said, "What the f*ck!" ?


Yea, pretty much.

Of course, a lot of people seem to have issues telling the difference between a written work of fiction, and the author who wrote it.

And it is consistent and has been this way for years, nothing new.

About 20 years ago, there was an early erotica site I was on (it folded around 2003), where some of us ran an experiment. We each grabbed some of our older stories from ASSM and posted them in there, some with obvious male author names, others as obvious female. Out own gender did not matter. And almost universally, the stories posted under female names got more responses, and even generated more email attempts to interact with the author.

And the narrator POV mattered little.

And it is not even unique to this genre. In Sci-Fi for decades, women were not taken seriously and therefore hid their genders. DC Fontanna, CJ Cherryh, CL Moore, L Taylor Hanson, Andre Norton, even JK Rowling.

In Erotica, it just seems to be the opposite.
Mushroom0311
Advanced Wordsmith
Quote by LucaByDesign

I put the passages through the Gender Analyser (link below) and it scored 7/10. The site does say it has a 70% accuracy rating, so that fits.


Yea, I take things like that with a huge grain of salt. About the size of Mount Shasta.

I decided to give it a try, and got, let's just say interesting results.

I punched 6 different stories through it. 2 I wrote with a male POV, 2 with a female one, one where the character changes gender as part of a science experiment gone wrong, another as a female POV who dresses as a man.

The results? Every single one came out with the exact same response, also around 7/10 as female.

Unsure what this meant (other than it likely is bogus), I decided to shove 2 more through it. First is one I wrote as a satire of the "kitchen sink" stories, and actually poorly written on purpose. And guess what, it also scored around 7/10. Then one of my first stories, circa 1996. Also, 7 out of 10.

Then finally I took one that is not my own. A rather horrible story from circa 1993, and it came out at around 10% masculine.

So what it looks for, I have absolutely no idea. But I bet it simply analyzes word structure and maybe word uses, which is obviously a horrible way to try and judge things like this as I am obviously male. And every single one of my stories I shoved in came out as being very female.

Then for "shits and giggles", I shoved through 3 stories by well known erotica author Ann Douglas. And according to it, she is male.

So ultimately, about as interesting as those "purity tests" that were all the rage about 25 years ago.
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Quote by Mushroom0311


Yea, I take things like that with a huge grain of salt. About the size of Mount Shasta.

I decided to give it a try, and got, let's just say interesting results.

I punched 6 different stories through it. 2 I wrote with a male POV, 2 with a female one, one where the character changes gender as part of a science experiment gone wrong, another as a female POV who dresses as a man.

The results? Every single one came out with the exact same response, also around 7/10 as female.

Unsure what this meant (other than it likely is bogus), I decided to shove 2 more through it. First is one I wrote as a satire of the "kitchen sink" stories, and actually poorly written on purpose. And guess what, it also scored around 7/10. Then one of my first stories, circa 1996. Also, 7 out of 10.

Then finally I took one that is not my own. A rather horrible story from circa 1993, and it came out at around 10% masculine.

So what it looks for, I have absolutely no idea. But I bet it simply analyzes word structure and maybe word uses, which is obviously a horrible way to try and judge things like this as I am obviously male. And every single one of my stories I shoved in came out as being very female.

Then for "shits and giggles", I shoved through 3 stories by well known erotica author Ann Douglas. And according to it, she is male.

So ultimately, about as interesting as those "purity tests" that were all the rage about 25 years ago.



Thanks for sharing your tinkering results. Interesting.

Were we at cross purposes, though? I meant I'd put the passages from the Guardian test through and that it got the gender correct on seven out of the ten they quoted (at various degrees of certainty). Not sure if I got that across? I think you were looking at the degree of male or femaleness on the sliding scale of each story?


Anyhow, just a bit of fun like newspaper horoscopes and popular psychology quizzes.
Meagananne1986
Sexy Seductive Siren
Quote by Brookell
I would think so, but using anecdotal evidence rather than anything more specific. When I had a pic of me on my profile, I got a lot of unwanted attention even though my profile stated my preferences for contact. I started coming in set to Invisible because I got tired of the pop-ups. Based on that, I would have to think it would carry over into story attention. My assumption is there are many more male members here than female.


If that's true and the attention I got as a woman also increases my profile and story views. Even now when I am visible I get much more attention from men than women, even though my pic is currently a cute kitten. So my guess is women writers probably do get more attention than male ones. I am almost tempted to create a male profile and post a couple of stories and see how quickly they reach a certain number of views, but then I also realized I would need a new female profile or my friends and followers viewing would skew the data. Not planning on it, but it might be worth considering.

If I was still in college, it might make an interesting thesis paper :-)

I do find one minor interesting note, not sure if it might relate. The two stories of mine that have had the most atteterntion are "Conversations with Jessie" from the Trans category, and "My Boyfriend has a Kinky Mom" from the Strap-on category. Wonder how the category interests are gender based?


I think you are right Brook about women writers getting more attention. I'm not sure if it is because they are women or because of their writing though. I strongly suspect the former rather than the latter.
Meagan
Meggsy
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I know I get more "comments" from males than females and to go a bit further, most are over 50.
This is probably because more males actually "read" the stories.
The reason? Probably more males need sexual stimulation than females.
I would say in my life I have been asked for sex far more often by males than I have asked males.

This may raise another point - do males masturbate more often than females.
Meagananne1986
Sexy Seductive Siren
I would definitely say, from my experience at least, sex is on the minds of men more often than on the minds of women. Could it be that it translates to the reason why men seem to read sexual stories more than women?
Meagan
Mushroom0311
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Quote by Meggsy
I know I get more "comments" from males than females and to go a bit further, most are over 50.
This is probably because more males actually "read" the stories.
The reason? Probably more males need sexual stimulation than females.
I would say in my life I have been asked for sex far more often by males than I have asked males.


Well, I will not deny that there is probably an element of that.

Myself, I simply read stories as stories. The gender of who wrote it does not matter, I enjoy the story as the art it is intended to be.

And you might be surprised. Mandy decades ago I took part in a survey (circa 2--8), which was done as part of a Masters thesis. And as part of the results she shared, the majority of men tended to gravitate towards movies, where women had a greater tendency to gravitate to the written word. Kinda like how men decades ago got Playboy, gals picked up "romance novels".

Myself, I do not comment often, simply because I am aware that far to many women have been harassed. But I do comment if I particularly enjoyed a story, normally in the comments where all can see. And yea, seen over the years that a lot of guys are not real bright when they are thinking of sex.
Markiemark2610
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I think it depends on the category too. Some categories get more comments especially ones in competitions. My opinion is that females get more attention than males. Me, I read whatever title catches my eye. Gender doesn't make a difference to me. I love to read.
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Quote by Markiemark2610
Some categories get more comments especially ones in competitions. My opinion is that females get more attention than males. Me, I read whatever title catches my eye. Gender doesn't make a difference to me. I love to read.


I totally agree..
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Pegasus4
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I read stories that are based on subjects and fantasies that I find erotic. It doesn't matter if the author is male or female as long as it is written and structured well it will hold my interest. I have observed that since I've used my wife's photo as an avatar instead of my own that my profile does get more views. My stories however, have been well read and I did write my story 'Blindfold' from the female perspective and it has scored well with an average of 4.87, over 23,000 views and many positive comments.

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Brookell
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Quote by Meggsy


This may raise another point - do males masturbate more often than females.


There was a time I would have thought so . . . however recent events have probably upped my self-involvement. COVID for sure, but even before that I found myself taking things in my own hands much more often. I haven't given it much thought until you raised this question. I have found myself being much more picky about who I invite to my bed, or whose bed I accept an invitation to. With the exception of some very close friends, I am much more choosy. As a result I find myself handling things alone and seem perfectly fine with that. It's like as I got older (past 45), quality became more important than quantity! I make fewer snap judgement about who might be more acceptable than I used to.

So, do I masturbate more than men in general. I don't know. I haven't been involved with a man for a long time. In my college and for a few years after college I would have said hell no! However currently I think I might.
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kistinspencil
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The stories here are so bad, so it doesn't matter.


And you have written... what? And given constructive criticism on... what?

Give us a reason, small as it might be, for paying you any sort of attention at all. So far, your sentence above shows us all we need to know.
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Quote by greymadder
The stories here are so bad, so it doesn't matter.


So why the fuck are you here? You dissed the site on another thread, too. If you hate it that much, leave.
KimmiBeGood
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Quote by greymadder
The stories here are so bad, so it doesn't matter.


It takes a lot to get Kimmi riled up, but you have done it, purposely spreading negative energy on my thread. You are in a minority in your thoughts, I assure you. Now shoo!
Stormdog
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Quote by kistinspencil


And you have written... what? And given constructive criticism on... what?

Give us a reason, small as it might be, for paying you any sort of attention at all. So far, your sentence above shows us all we need to know.


Clearly, he came here only to prove the old maxim that those with no talent become critics. In his case, he has no talent for that either, so apparently he's just here because he's a miserable SOB hoping to make others as miserable as he is.

He's an example of the reason the 'Block' function was created. I'm going to go use it.
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