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SixtyMinuteMan
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Quote by seeker4
The lingerie section in Sears catalogue (seriously, this was before Victoria's Secret was big).


I used to be careful to bend the spine of the catalog in other sections just so it wouldn't fall open to the lingerie section anytime someone picked it up.
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Quote by AudriNichols


Most of my characters dialogue is just stupid...but maybe I'm my own worst critic. I once cut down a 24,000+ word story down to less than 5,000 words because it was full of crappy dialogue. It was a painful edit, and I did it sober. In hindsight, I could have taken advantage of a bottle of wine that night. Perhaps you can use that bit of writing in another story?


That is some serious editing. The most I've cut is probably a quarter of a 28,000 word story.

And it's a nice thought, but unfortunately there's no way to salvage the scene. It was from "Samuel," which is about as specifically-circumstanced as a story can get. I did actually salvage another long piece of dialogue from that story and bolt a sex scene onto it as the next chapter.

It's possible I write too much conversation. Maybe. It's also possible that water is wet.
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Once had a Dom tell my partner and I that despite the agreed upon terms of the session, he didn't actually believe in safe words and would not respect them. AFTER I was in restraints. Discovered a huge, angry, panicky limit right on the spot. Surprises in BDSM scenes are for stories on Lush, NOT for real life. We negotiated ahead of time, stick to the fucking plot.

Other than that... I'm old enough that the AIDS crisis formed a part of my sexual psyche, so no unprotected sex unless we're fluid-bonded. No blood play, corollary to the previous. No piss, no shit. I'll happily catch, but we're not doing anything with my ass that'll do damage, keep your fists to yourself.

No infidelity. Poly and sex-positive dynamics are fine, but nobody who's lying to a partner. No downlow. I paid the price to be out and I'm not feeling all that closeted shame on someone else's behalf.
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There's what, 30+ categories? Sounds like a fun idea, but it would take me seriously two years, minimum. Good luck, though, I wish you well with it.
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Quote by AudriNichols


Another thing I struggle with is when my characters sort of take over the story and I have to try to stay out of what I call Dialogue Hell...in which I have characters who will drag a conversation on and on. I can't get them to shut up. So I will have ten pages of basically nothing but dialogue that gives my inner editor fits, but my characters are happy...ugh.


Yeah. And when that happens it's inevitably 4000 words of snappy, clever dialogue that you love so much it makes you cry to cut it. Find yourself thinking things like "Look, this story can be like one of those French movies where it's just two characters sitting at a table for an hour chatting over wine. And then they fuck. People will like that, right?"

I wiped a whole scene in my most recent story because while I just loved the dialogue, it was after the first sexual encounter and just completely stopped the tension leading up to the big finale. I had to pour myself a glass of wine before I could cut it.
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My first handful of times were quick and fumbling exchanges on the bench seat of my old pickup. I doubt any of them lasted longer than five minutes. Still exciting, still fun, paved the way forward, but neither of us was any good at it.

Shameless pimping: My story "Educating Ken" is an only-slightly-fictionalized account of the first time I sucked cock (and more) without being a fumbling kid sucking a fumbling kid. The second chapter is wholly fiction, but the first is pretty honest.
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Quote by Leigh65
The Big Chill


I love Lawrence Kasdan. Silverado would definitely be on my list, and I've seen The Big Chill enough times to be able to quote a lot of the dialogue.
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Quote by dpw

You certainly are lucky. I have fond memories of a holiday in Frisco. There seemed to be plenty of sex available.
The rest will be in a pm to you.


I shall wait with bated breath.
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Quote by AudriNichols
I think the hardest part for me is coming up with realistic dialogue that doesn't sound completely cheesy or totally unrealistic.


Amen. Sometimes I walk around the house actually saying my dialogue out loud to hear how it sounds. Writing a casual conversation that seems light and witty and genuine is one of the hardest things to do.
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Quote by dpw

It was when I was at university in Hertfordshire, in a small town with no gay scene.
As far as numbers of different women goes, the figure is single digit.


One of the things I'm most grateful for is that I was in California when I realized I like men. I grew up in Appalachia, it would have been a much more isolated experience there. I sometimes have to remind myself that my experience of being queer has been incredibly fortunate in that I've spent my adult life in San Diego, San Francisco, and Seattle.

And as far as actual numbers go, my partner and I have been participating in sex-positive communities for twenty years. My number is a byproduct of that. Sharing a large number on the internet is like claiming one's cock is big or that one is rich, so I'll just shut up.
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Can anyone help me learn to cross dress?


Best advice I can offer for dressing is to commit to it, and to be patient with the learning process. I write this assuming you're dressing MtF and that your female handle is the destination, so to speak. If I'm wrong, I apologize. I have no real insight into crossdressing FtM.

First, find clothes that fit you. You'll have to try things on, and be patient about it. Even women with perfect bodies try on a lot of clothes, much more so than men, to find things that fit in a flattering way. A dress that fits and is right for your shape will make a huge, huge difference in how you feel about your look.

And obviously it's easier to find a fit if you're trim, but that's true for every woman who's ever bought clothing. When I was 18 I wore a single digit dress size and shopping for cross dressing was as easy as deciding to do it. And I could pass. Now my shoulders alone require five girlfriends giving advice and ten dresses tried on just to accommodate in a new LBD. And there just ain't no passing for me any more. But passing is not really the point, and that's a thing to keep in your mind as you try dressing the first time. Again, be patient.

Second, do all the grooming women do. It helps enormously with the finished product, but it is also a big part of the ritual of what you're doing. Shave, baby. And if you're like me, this'll require patience too. I have to start with a weed eater when I want to dress.

And third, get your makeup right. There are excellent tutorials on YouTube. People tend not to know about things like concealer and base the first time they try makeup, and those are the most important things. And makeup starts at the store, you have to buy just the right colors for your face.

Patience, patience, patience. You will not look like RuPaul an hour after you decide to dress. It's a learning curve.
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Where did you live when you were younger, dpw? It was always far, far easier for young me to find sex with men than women. So much so that when the subject of one's sexual history number came up recently, I was able to readily add up my female number but had to estimate my male one.
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Quote by dpw
Georges Querelle


Daring. Planning to fight him off, or is this how you want to go out?
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Quote by clum
Miranda Priestly.


I won't even ask if you're drawing from the book or the movie. Either way, thread: Won.

As for me, I'll say Inara Serra, because I'm a huge nerd.
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Good luck with that em.

From what I've learned, you'll always cringe a bit when you re-read a piece. Always be things you wish you'd done different. You just gotta let the story sit.


Probably when I feel truly proud of what I've written and am satisfied with the product even in spite of changes or things I wish I'd done differently.


Completely off topic, but I LOVE your handle. Nobody remembers that movie, but there was a time when I probably could have quoted every word.
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The day I don't cringe when I re-read a piece.xx


This. I'll be interested to see how I view my latest story a year from now. I remember being pretty proud of the stuff I put up four years ago, now I read it and blush.
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Reading, I have no real preference between first and third. I just want good. Writing, I enjoy first person for the challenge. Hard to appreciate just how challenging it is to write without narrative omniscience until you try it. And for me there's no bigger satisfaction than making a first person story read as easy and natural and light when it really took so much more effort than telling it in third would have.
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Inspiration comes from a lot of sources. I've got a story on another site that's an attempt at writing my wife's favorite fantasy, most of my m/m stuff is flights of fancy drawn from relationships in my own life, and I've got a couple higher-concept pieces I work on that were inspired by something I was reading. I've got one set in Ancient Rome that I really like and probably won't ever finish, since it seems to want to be a novel.

As to time, my latest story is the first where I kept track. My early stuff, including the stuff I put here four years ago, was just the first scratches of my learning to write and I probably don't want to know how long they took. But with "Samuel" I wrote about five pages a day to a total of 36 pages. Then it took a couple read-throughs to correct style and grammatical issues. I tend to get stuck on certain phrases and repeat them too many times, and it's a pain in the ass to edit that kind of stuff. Next step was cutting for length. I dropped about seven pages, in the end. Still not sure if it became a tighter story or if I just scrapped some of the tension, but I'm still learning. And finally, when I felt it ready, I ended up altering or adding paragraphs after each of the sexual encounters to form individual chapters so I could post it here, since it was well above the 10k word count. All told it was about forty hours of work. I have some hope that at some point in the near future I'll be able to put together stories of similar length and character development in thirty hours or so.

I'm also hoping to learn to put together a single shorter story in one week's writing time, which is about fifteen hours for me. That might qualify as hoping to grow wings, but we'll see.

One can see my two biggest problems right here in this reply. One: Verbosity. Look how many words I just spent on this. And two: Self-discipline. I'm "working on" the next chapter of "Samuel" right this instant. Except I'm not, I'm really writing two sentences and then browsing the internet.
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can i add my own to this? Dancing Doll takes time to thank people for comments, and i think it's amazing. she also takes time to answer PMs about her stories. i used to do both as well. sometimes the comments or PMs are simple - your story was awesome, and it was easy to do. sometimes i'd end up getting lengthy PMs and i'd answer them back. and then i'd get another one in reply. at a certain point i realized that i was spending as much time saying thank you as i was writing - i even had one reader who'd send me daily PMs who got upset when i started lagging in my answers. at present, i have over 100 stories up, i verify stories and i'm one of the senior mods. here. i really do appreciate comments and thanks yous, but keeping up with them is impossible - if someone sends me something particularly touching, i WILL reply, sometimes it takes a week or too, but i will. the ones that simply say 'great story, thanks' tho, i don't. yes, i read them, yes, if someone does that repeatedly, i'll send out a thank you, but no, i don't thank each and every one - i just don't have the time. it would take away from my writing, my other duties here, and, frankly, the little fun time i do have chatting or using the forums...

so, yeah, if you want to give me a big giant 'fuck you' and not read anymore of my stories, that's fine. consider this - on average, from idea so submission, i spend close to 40 hours working on a single story, sometimes less, sometimes more. that's writing, rewriting, editing, etc. i think that, putting out something fro other's enjoyment is thank you enough. if you want me to spend 1/4 of my writing time sending out little thank you notes, well, maybe you're asking a bit too much. btw, i work and i am in a relationship as well and at times, i even sleep.


Wait, you sleep???? You shiftless, no good little Sprite. That's just lazy. You're maybe allowed to have a relationship, assuming you only use it for inspiration for more porn. But damn it, sleeping is just out of the question. We're providing free smut for important wanking purposes, here. Suffer for your art, dagnabit.

More seriously, if you wrote "Quartet" and "If We Break Before the Dawn" in about the same amount of time it took me to write "Samuel," I need to wipe the smug grin off my face and get back to work. That is some top shelf stuff, right there. Glad you commented here, I'm looking forward to devouring your work starting tonight.
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Quote by dpw

Strange that you even look in this forum. Methinks he professeth too much!


Yeah, that was my thought. "So you clicked into the LGBT forum just to make sure we know you're not? Hmmmm...."
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Thanks for the suggestions. I've accepted it as a brush off and decided to moved on. fuck em .


Was going to just leave this topic alone, but that "fuck 'em" bugs me. I clicked into this thread expecting it to be about how many people read without scoring and/or commenting. Last thing I expected was a discussion about whether authors owe readers thanks. Honestly, Ajax, I'm not sure where you're even coming from. I'll reply to a nice comment, especially if the person comments more than once, but even with the relatively few comments I get it would be problematic to reply to them all. Some stories get triple digit replies, answering them all would be a full time job. It would preclude more writing.

We spend many hours on these stories. My story "Samuel" has about forty hours of my life in it. Five thousand people have read it here and of that number, eight have taken two seconds to click a score. Eight. Of those eight I've made one friend, dpw, replied to I think three others, and clicked "like" on all of them. To me, freely sharing something that I put that much effort into is my part of the deal. Read, enjoy, please comment, but if you feel an author owes you gratitude for reading, do please stay away from my stories. The opening of my psyche and the full work week I put into getting you off was more than enough.

The readers should give the authors feedback and kudos, not the other way around. Goodness.
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I'll add my voice to the "dudes do it too" chorus. Nobody's who they say they are until you meet them, at least in a live video chat of some kind.

Except me, of course. I really am Quinne and Zoli from SuicideGirls. Both of 'em. Really. Would I lie?
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I think topping might actually be more proof of inherent bisexuality/homosexuality than bottoming. You can suck a dick as a mechanical exercise as opposed to something you want to do. You can catch without enjoying it. But if your cock is hard and you're taking the active role, you have to be at least a little bit into it, right? Can't fake an erection.
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Based on purely anecdotal personal experience, I think the number of (pick a word- bi, curious, flexible, whatever. Your label, your choice) dudes is much higher than generally acknowledged. I'm openly bisexual and openly sex-positive, and I would have a hard time remembering how many times ostensibly straight guys have approached me “on the downlow.”

It happened all the fucking time back when I was more of a twink, physically. I think a more “manly” presence is somewhat intimidating to curious guys, although it could just be that I'm a little older and less sexy to men than I used to be. But even so, it's a running meme for my partner and I.

Me: “Baby, you'll never guess what Joe said last night when he was drunk.”

Her: “Bet I will. 'So, um, Kenny, um... you're into dudes, right?'”

Me: “You must be a damn mind-reader.”

Her: “I wanna watch.”
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Introduce the title of your story: Samuel. The name of one of the characters. Because I'm creative like that.

Genre/Category: Gay Male.

Provide the link: Here (Pt. 1), here (Pt. 2), and here (Pt. 3).

1. What first inspired you to write this particular story? On an immediate level, I'm trying to get back in the habit of writing at least five pages every single night, without fail. And erotic stories are fun to write. Don't need to search for motivation to write something that turns me on.

On a slightly deeper level, I'm probably still carrying some emotional baggage from the timing of my realization of my sexuality. Exploring that by writing fiction about it is a kind of therapy. With sex. Lots of sex.

2. How did you come up with these characters? They are very loosely based on the real me and my first serious boyfriend.

3. How does it differ from some of your other stories? It's a product of my new commitment to writing. I'm going to write, finish, and publish stories regularly as opposed to my old process, which was to over-craft every word until I got so frustrated that I just quit writing for several years. It shouldn't feel like work.

4. What was the most challenging thing about writing this piece? Editing. Long as it is, it started out much longer. I cut three entire scenes and whittled others down tremendously. That 10k word limit is going to be my nemesis.

5. Anything else you want to tell us about it? Going to be more of these characters. I'm enjoying writing them. I suspect they'll be my go-to for light concept gay stories for a while to come. Two more chapters already ongoing, plus an idea for a third, and a piece of character exploration will be going up today if I have time to finish editing. So I really hope you like them.
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How big are your cocks?...
I only have one. Does that exclude me from the discussion?


Yep. This is only for the multi-appendaged. I was going to answer, but measuring eight cocks takes forever.
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I'm probably the harshest critic of my work, so generally if a two lands I think "Okay, mate, fair cop. I didn't like that wordy bit in the middle either."

I do much prefer them with explanation, though. If you're going to lob a low score at someone's labor of love, taking a couple minutes to explain why seems like basic courtesy.
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I'm kind of the opposite of you, Metilda, in that erotica is what I write when I can't write substantial plot. This is my writer's block writing, if you follow. And I'm wordy enough just with some flirtation and some sex, if I tried to be genuinely creative I'd end up with "War & Penis," a million-word epic about two gay soldiers in the Napoleonic Wars.

My process is basically "Sit down, try to work on my novel, eventually realize I'm not coming up with anything productive, decide to write something else because not writing at all is the only real failure, be horny, write about people fucking."

The stories tend to work outward from a conversation. I like writing conversations. And once I start, I'll generally go well over the five pages a day goal until all the buildup is written, then let the story sit idle until I'm in the mood to write the sex. And the sex usually gets written at two in the morning when I couldn't sleep and suddenly had a flash of inspiration/horniness.

Then the publishing process is a fuckton of editing. My latest story lost over six thousand words before the sex and still had to be broken into three to live on Lush. Flirtation and conversation and buildup are fun to write. I'm seldom writiing sex before I'm 10k words into the story.
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Thanks, clum. Part 3 is back up. And thanks a lot for the comment, glad you liked it.