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In the Atlanta Metro, African-American females might still be the largest gun buying demographic.

Not all African American women are liberal. Remember tantaleyes?🤣

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You follow Chryses on Twitter?

LMAO. I'm pretty sure Chryses and his many personalities are back around these parts. We know he could never stay away this long.

I think the concession would have been far more impactful if Biden conceded the presidency to VP Harris now. Let her take the reins now and rally the people that way.

Either way, we’re still fucked, but let’s see how it pans out.

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You dumbasses aren't asking the right questions. The shadow government is on the move.

I acknowledge that this whole thing being a hoax isn't at all far-fetched, which again, indicates how fucked up we are as a country, specifically pertaining to our "democracy."

With that being said, don't tinfoil hat too close to the sun, my dude. Rock on.

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No actual footage of the bullet hitting his ear... a bullet that would have blown it off probably. His ear looks intact.

Apparently it wasn't a bullet that reportedly hit his ear, it was a piece of the teleprompter-turned-projectile that clipped his ear.

At any rate, I'm not too keen on calling this a hoax without supporting evidence. For what it's worth, I hope it isn't a hoax because turning this election season into even more of a farce than what it is, by way of a fake assassination attempt no less, does not bode well for this country. Not to mention the precedent this sets for potential copycats.

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At first?! Every damn time I scroll through the forum, my eyes see "A Question About Titties."

Exactly! It's so deceiving.

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Brutal

I bet she saw Hamilton the musical and thought it was about signing the Declaration of Independence. 🤣

Enjoy tonight’s debate!

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Don’t jack me offer an answer

You can be so many ways, yet you choose to be this way. Why?

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What is the iron dome for though? I’m not trolling. It’s a catch 22.

I mean Finland and South Korea have conscription. Finland is a peaceful nation. Is it xenophobic to say they do that because they share a border with Russia?

Jack...

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What y’all fail to mention is that America didn’t just give Israel weapons to kill Palestinians. They gave Israel weapons so that the Muslim world would genocide the Israelis. I mean the Palestinians have done pretty bad things too, just like Israel. If we leave Israel to fend for itself and the Muslim world decides to invade them and kill them all then what? Whose fault is that? Or would we blame whoever the Muslim world got their weapons from?

You’re trolling way too close to the sun right now, dude.

Unfortunately, many folks here are too keen to believe you’re a lowlife piece of shit to ever acknowledge that you’re satirically highlighting xenophobic agendas right now.

Quote by RowanThorn

I am simply voting for a change. Any context you try to assign it is your own.

I’m not hoping for the worst outcome, I’m hoping for the only outcome that holds any possibility of changing things in the extremely short time table we’re dealing with.

Why do I bring up kids? Because if we fail as a generation we are leaving them the world in a state that will be in a legitimate apocalyptic scenario, The I’ve caps are melting, the east coast is going to set record temps multiple times in one week, the Biden administration is calling for a proliferation of America’s nuclear strike capabilities. Maybe people feel as though they can just ride it out but that’s not something that holds true for the younger generations.

And I think constantly slagging off any forum of discussion is a lazy argument. The ‘it doesn’t matter, this is a fuck site’ casts aside that sexual liberation leads to leftist politics. I have found a few people who’ve I learned from and made lots of connections from the forums alone.

At least own what you’ve said, for fuck’s sake. You’ve outright said several times that you hope the Republicans win due to the siphoning of votes from the Green Party so the left gets a fucking spine again, when you know it’s the worst possible outcome. Stand in that.

And don’t play that game with me. You didn’t bring up children in the context that children are the future and that they deserve a better world (which I agree). You specifically brought up the fact that I don’t have children, and you did so in order to diminish my perspective and the stakes I have in the current political games, compared to you, a person with children. I won’t even go into peeling back the layers of you dismissively pointing out that I’m a woman without children, whether that was your intent or not, so you’re welcome. Suffice it to say, that was pretty low of you, but you’ve shown me how low you’re willing to stoop to feel like you’ve won a debate, so no surprises there.

And to the rest of your bullshit in me pointing out how low the stakes are here, you know exactly what I’m saying. I know you love a high horse, but you know that I’m not scorning forums in general when I point out how low the stakes are here, in particular. I’m speaking specifically to the slice of the internet known as Lush, where the Think Tank here exists solely for people to tell each other how right they think they are. If that’s not the case, where are the threads you’ve created on brainstorming solutions versus touting how your chosen party is our salvation and everyone else is a coward? And I mean genuinely so, not as an “I told you so” because someone didn’t take you as seriously as you would have liked. And I keep telling you, quit trying to teach me lessons regarding the intricacies of our sociopolitical landscape. Your understanding is paltry at best.

In all of your posts in your thread, ask yourself this: As someone who claims so much that they believe in the greater good in a sociopolitical context, why is it that you often end up scorning aspects of people’s identities over which they have no control, and even if they did, it wouldn’t define them or make their experiences or perspectives less valid? Furthermore, when such scorning is pointed out to you, why do you ignore it or dismiss it? And please don’t ask me to pinpoint when. It’s happened at least twice now in this thread alone. Go through your own post history instead of outsourcing that labor to someone who deserves better than to clock your bullshit. It speaks volumes if you don’t notice.

Perhaps you should devote some time in correcting the inconsistencies in the views you champion regarding this election and the way that you treat people that you deem as beneath you before claiming your political focus is what’s best for the future of this country.

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I don’t know where you get the idea that I’m safe from the impact of a Trump election. I live in America and unlike you I have young children who will have to face the long term ramifications of the liberal apathy and right wing power grabs. Bending the knee to either is leaving my children to a future of hyper violence, food and water shortages, and nuclear war.

You aren’t fighting, you’re giving up on your terms. You’re enabling every problem you claim to fight.

Like I don’t know what you do off this site, you obviously don’t know what I do but you are quick to judge anyway. Don’t know anything about my family,, don’t know about the community service and activism I join. As far as I can tell I have far more to lose than you do, maybe that’s why I can’t settle like you can.

You have the privilege of cowing to the Democrats, my family doesn’t.

Nah. You don’t have more to lose, and you don’t have less privileges, but if it’s comforting for you to believe you do, I won’t take that from you. I also won’t begrudge you of your beliefs regarding what/how I fight and to what extent. One thing I am not is apathetic, so tread carefully there. You can snivel about the rest to your heart’s content.

Not sure what my not having children has to do with any of this, as if that’s the only motivation for not wanting the world to be a shit show for future generations, so I don’t have that much to say in that regard. But again, if it makes you feel superior, have at it. Because that’s what this has all been about, right? Your vehement beliefs that your approach to fucking people over in ways that we both know won’t impact you is the superior belief system. And that the fuckass Green Party is the superior party that will save us all. You believe that so much that you’ll intentionally sacrifice your kids’ future as a lesson. I’d love to be a fly on the wall of the conversations you’ll have if this shit goes the way you want it. “See kids? This unprecedented suffering was all in daddy’s plan. Doesn’t matter that your body no longer belongs to you and your rights are stripped on a regular basis. We gotta teach these folks a lesson!”

You know what else is telling? I’ve never said which direction I’d be casting my vote, or if I’m even voting. All I said was that I’d vote for what I believe is a shot at the least dismal future, and you assumed I was going with the Democrats. You’re literally voting for a party hoping for the aftermath of a Republican victory. You say melodramatic bullshit like “cowing to the Democrats” while taking pride in bending over for the Republicans. LMAO

Even if I am cowing to the Democrats as you say, I’m grateful that my ego hasn’t deceived me to the extent that your blind devotion has. The only point I’ve been making in all of this is that there is no “least” amount of suffering in this election. But voicing hope for the worst outcome is incredibly fucked, even if the end goal is a possibility that it fucks the system that’s fucking us.

Actually, having typed all that, maybe you have to feel superior and like you’re doing what’s best for everyone because desperation has led you there. I know that desperation is born out of circumstances beyond your control, so I sincerely empathize with you there. The world’s so shit that two strangers are trying to convince each other that their chosen turd is the shiniest, on a sex site of all places. Kinda fucked when you think about it. No pun intended.

Quote by Magical_felix

Look at the leading 3rd party's webpage.

https://www.gp.org

Just try to Imagine these guys coming in and doing anything. They don't even have a candidate yet. lol

Just you wait. This party's gonna save us all.

When has unwavering faith in a political party ever steered us wrong as a nation?

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I find the stance of accepting the status quo to be what’s truly privileged. That means you acknowledge the suffering and hardships of others but refuse to take action.

From a place of comfort you accept the exact system that has made things progressively worse for decades because you have the privilege to make due.

And I think the idea that we can change this country’s hyper violence and colonial grip on the world without subverting and dismantling the current system is lazy idealism. One that is die for many to accept, especially those without kids who won’t have to see them suffering in a world of climate chaos and genocidal state violence. I do feel the moral high ground in this case.

I’m voting 3rd party because I refuse to believe the steady march to climate destruction and colonial tyranny is not acceptable. That yielding to ‘the lesser of two evils’ is still the firm and unwavering support of those evils. All I hear from you is empty rhetoric with no real action. Not good enough for me.

Frankly if you don’t believe you’re on the moral high ground how are you living you’re life?

Yeah, this sounds really pretty, and I'm sure it feels nice convincing yourself that hoping for suffering that you, yourself will hardly experience (if at all) is the morally sound decision. But in reality, it makes you no different than those against whom you claim to rally. Sacrificing others and not yourself for a good cause is cool, I guess.

I assure you, there's no comfort in how I navigate the systems that impact me. Quite privileged of you to assume so, LOL. Being that I have vast experience in being trampled by systems in ways that you never will be, I understand all to well the push and pull of political games and the impact therein. I live this shit every day. Tell me of the most recent right(s) and privilege(s) taken from and/or denied to you and I'll tell you mine. I hate to play that card, but you toss around words like privilege as if you and I are the same in that regard. I quite literally can't have a privileged perspective, or it would mean my demise. Anything I've ever "accepted" about these systems have been entirely against my will. Therefore I'm fully aware of how dismantling these fucked systems is the only safe and productive way forward, so please spare me the lesson in that regard. You, in particular, will never have the range to teach me anything in that vein, and it's cringey to see you try.

With that being said, if the lesser of evil that we all know how to navigate is what we got, then that's what I choose. I don't claim to know the way forward because I'm still figuring this shit out myself, but I do know that blind faith in any political party or affiliation is how we end up in this same spot every 4 years. The part that seems to escape you is that your faith in the Green Party or whatever party you'll have the privilege of tossing your vote is also a part of that system. It is asinine to think any party born out of our current system, even the ones claiming to combat them, will be impactful enough to change it, especially when the goal is to claim the same level of power and status as the current parties. It's just supremacy in a different outfit. No system made in the image of our current system, regardless of how great their principles are, will ever resist reverting back to its previous dysfunction. Your failure to recognize that will always be counterintuitive to whatever moral standard you believe you embody.

As far as me having empty rhetoric and no action, you have no idea what actions I take towards dismantling systems, or at the very least supporting and empowering others with the resources at my disposal as they navigate the same fucked systems as myself. I'm just not inclined to share them on a fuck site. Even if this is the Think Tank, I have my limits. However, I assure you, my actions extend much further than meaningless arguments in a Think Tank on a sex site under the guise of an Elle Varner avatar. I come here to blow off steam, not to invoke change. I know where my voice and actions are the most productive and impactful, so that's where I use them.

You're voting third party because if it goes to shit in the ways that you're hoping, it will impact you the least. If that weren't the case, you wouldn't be. It's easy to make sacrifices when you're not the one that's actually gonna be sacrificed. I'd entertain your faulty sense of morality if it was your ass on the line in your decision-making process. But again, you know it's not. That's why your belief of yourself as having a moral high ground is tainted and empty at best. It's actually quite telling that you believe you have a moral high ground. No morally sound person would claim such a thing.

I appreciate you informing me that my approach isn't good enough for you. I use the disapproval of people like you as my moral compass. Lets me know I'm on the right track in this endless puddle of shit we're trying to escape.

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That’s the part that I find the most crazy.

Like they expect Trump winning will make Palestine hold out for 5 years while the Green Party wins the presidency, senate and house because people with be THAT mad at Trump?

I'm just more concerned about the people being offered up as martyrs for this cause. It's supposed to be for the greater good and the future of democracy and all of that, but much like our current system of checks and balances, it'll just be yet another situation where those with the least power and privilege who will suffer the most from this line of decision-making.

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Same way the Trump victory propelled the BLM movement and radicalized the youth vote to the far left. Because the only way you can get the Democrats to oppose a crime against humanity is to have a Republican in office.

American protesters flooding the streets is the only way anything will change in Palestine. Because the function of a Biden or Trump presidency in regards to Palestine is exactly the same. A racist, genocidal colonial attack supported by people like you.

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps perpetuate it. He who accepts evil without protesting it is really cooperating with it.

So you're protest voting to punish the Democrats so they can learn a lesson with a Republican's victory?

What an incredibly privileged perspective. You want an exponential amount of people to continue suffering in unfathomable ways. Ways that you, yourself, won't suffer in the slightest (at the very least, not to the extent that those will far less privilege than you will suffer), all so a political party learns a lesson. And you genuinely believe you have the moral high ground here? And don't give me that shit about "I don't wanna go with a candidate that supports genocide" while salivating at the idea that your throwaway vote yields catastrophic results because you want other people's suffering to galvanize politicians.

It would be different (still stupid, but less disgusting) if you were choosing party over principle. But you know you're using your throwaway vote to siphon votes to the Republican party so that they win, because you'll feel vindicated when things go to shit. It's quite hypocritical of you to throw away your vote because you don't want a candidate that supports genocide (fair enough), but your intention is that there's even more suffering to teach the Democrats a lesson. How is that better?

Your "stance" is so empty. "I'm voting third party because I refuse to support a candidate who is funding a genocide, because I know the Republicans, who will also continue to fund a genocide and bring about even more suffering and the loss of rights in ways that ultimately won't impact me, will win, and teach the other party a lesson."

Ew.

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Totally, they should just abolish democracy and force people to vote the way you want them too. Why give people a choice am I right?

LMAO.

Totally. Because pointing out how protest votes are counterproductive is the same thing as abolishing democracy. This isn’t a false equivalency at all.

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If that's all you gather from skimming my posts concerning Biden vs Trump, you'd be better served ignoring everything that flies off my fingers. I campaigned for Bernie Sanders in 2015-16 until he dropped out of the nomination race. I also supported Bernie in 2020, again, until the Dems shut the door on him.

We can thank Joe Biden for many political catastrophes - such as Clarence Thomas making it onto the Supreme Court - after Biden joined with Republicans to humiliate, ignore and crush Anita Hill's testimony in 1991. You should probably also thank Obama for selecting Biden as his running mate in 2008 - which further elevated the verbal gaff-machine in the Dem party.

There's plenty of blame to go around when it comes to the Israeli/Palestine relationship since 1948. I have never read any positive solutions/suggestions for how Biden/America is supposed to proceed with dealing with the nationalistic warmongers who are large and in charge of the Israeli military and law enforcement. Perhaps America shouldn't have been supporting Israel with billion$ of discounts to purchase state of the art weaponry from American manufacturing profiteers. Trump didn't end any of that during his first term in office, but neither have any US Presidents going back nearly 75 years.

I get that you would feel safer if NATO was completely disbanded and all member nations split apart and Europe was ripe for the picking by Putin's war machine. Trump and Biden are a couple of assholes, they've both made numerous bad decisions over the entirety of their lifetimes. But Biden has never attempted a coup nor acted like a dictator.

For my entire lifetime, there has been at least one major war occurring somewhere in this world. And when there hasn't been one, two or three major wars (Iran vs Iraq, Korea vs NATO, genocide on the African continent in multiple different countries, Central American wars fought by proxy America/Soviet Union, too many wars and skirmishes for me to keep track of. It appears that humans are good at procreation and at killing & maiming one another.

My Biden boner is born of not wanting to see Trump anywhere near the oval office again. But you be you, youngling.

Out of curiosity, is there a reason every time I challenge your devotion to the Democratic party, you immediately jump to assuming my belief system and then make up a shit ton of "counterpoints" on my behalf to which I don't subscribe?

I ask because I've made it abundantly clear that I believe the two-party system is fucked. The Democrats become more right-leaning by the day because they're a self-serving party just like the others. Refusal to hold one's party accountable leads to the shit show that is our current election system. Downplaying the missteps of the party to which you're loyal to point the finger at another is ignorant at best.

I'm honestly baffled at why you feel so threatened every time someone rightfully points out how the Dems have been such a letdown while also acknowledging that no one sane with this country's best interests in mind wants Trump anywhere near American government. I don't need to be convinced of this, as I'm fully aware. But also, the Dems fucking suck. Biden is a shit show, just less so than Trump...for the most part.

Being a better choice than Trump as your main running point is fucking insane.

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I really don’t care what you do. I’m addressing what you said, not you.

???

Ignore who you want or be opposed to the viewpoints of those you view as trolls all you like. But please don't play the "I'm not talking to you game", especially when responding to and/or directly quoting someone.

As you said, this is a public forum, where all are free to chime in, as you're well aware. If you're opposed to certain viewpoints/voices, use your block feature and keep it moving.

Don't engage and then whine under the guise of being above it all.

As for anyone else, if you can't make your point without senseless trolling and/or disgusting insults (I literally read adults refer to another human being as a fucking monkey and then act completely nonchalant when it was pointed out, and then double down on the monkey insult, holy shit), then you need not participate.

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That's exactly what the Trump administration did - to our fellow Americans from the earliest days of Covid 19 beginning to spread until he took his last special treatment to fix him up after his own Covid health struggles. Genocide.

This Biden boner shit is weird.

It's one thing to acknowledge and accept that Biden is the shiniest turd and is the only realistic option (not a third party vote, which is a pipe dream at this point. It's deluded to believe otherwise.) unless this hellscape becomes even more so. But the outright refusal to hold him accountable and damn near nominate the guy for sainthood is fucking astounding. All the "But Trump" shit is the same thing the right is doing re: Biden.

Biden is a senile war criminal who had a hand in one of the most heinous, racist crime bills in American history, and is currently funding a genocide. He's constantly pissing on legs and calling it rain because he's aware that he can get away with it because "At least I'm not Trump." And here you are, lapping it up. What a low fucking bar.

Yikes.

I'll be on your standby for your next "I've been around for ages, and you youngins don't know like I know" rant.

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I am not in disagreement with you, but being a convicted criminal does not disqualify a person from running for or winning the office of president.

Which is absolutely bogus. If you can hold the highest position in this country as a convicted felon, then no job should be allowed to consider felony charges in their application/hire process.

Quote by HornyBill

I assume you like titties. ;)

Huh? What gave you that impression?

I like titties.

I like baking.

I like going on walks.

I like getting my nails/toes done.

I like titties.

I like playing on my Nintendo Switch (I don't wanna hear it, die-hard gamers).

I like driving.

I like vegging out.

I like spending time with friends.

I like going on dates.

I like titties.

I LOVE music.

I like binging the shows I watched growing up where available.

I like titties.

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Obviously you’re worried that Biden will win so you’re scared of wellmademale’s gentleman’s challenge.

Please ease up with the obvious trolling.

Not everyone has the sensibilities to handle it, and I'd rather not deal with the impending spiral. Thanks.

Serious question: Is everything okay, bud?

South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, who’s currently failing in her quest to become Donald Trump’s running mate, gets caught lying about meeting Kim Jong Un. How shitty of a politician do you have to be to be so awful at lying?

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You're projecting

Yeah, I have a Mrs. Doubtfire fetish. I admit it.

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Fit check

Shut up. You know you'd bang.

God you're so bad at masking your sexual tension.

Anything can be a buttplug if you're not a coward.