Submission degrading rough training breaking a worthless slut in, learning my place rough, reminding me of my place, I do understand that men females are not the same, we will always despite our attemps to be worthy, or disapline equality isn't actually real. Every man that's with a woman should be able to speak in that certain deep tone when they really mean something w/ seriousness & his female complys w/out question. Not out of respect or obedience but that natural w/out thought submission . Not some doms/subs day to day training or disapline when he's really serious the subject shouldn't matter, that freeing feeling automatically complying naturally is something of a fullfillment that just feels right.