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I'm reading Dark Places by Gillian Flynn and I noticed she uses "OK".


She's wrong, ok?
Cheeky Chick
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She's wrong, ok?


Mmkay.
Wild at Heart
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She's wrong, ok?


okie dokie
Lurker
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OK may not be a word, but okay is not a real word either, it is simply an attempt to make the original OK an actual word. OK was an abbreviation/acronym that originated in 1839 from a humorous Boston Morning Post article that got picked up and popularized by the Martin Van Buren presidential campaign because the abbreviation (originally Oll Korrect) coincided with Van Buren's nickname 'Old Kinderhook'. Then telegraphers (a new invention at the time) began using it as a regular telegraphy shortcut, and OK became part of the English language. It was only later that it was deemed necessary to turn it into an actual word, spelled out, but that is an artificial construct. OK is the actual original term.


Her Royal Spriteness
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fyi, anyone submitting a story using "okay" instead of "OK" is getting it edited back to "OK" and then forwarded to Clum.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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O-...ahh fuck it.

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Wild at Heart
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I'm almost finished with my first historical story for lush. Hoedown at the Okay Corral.
Clumeleon
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fyi, anyone submitting a story using "okay" instead of "OK" is getting it edited back to "OK" and then forwarded to Clum.


I'll just reject them all, quoting song lyrics from the musical, Oklahoma!

"Every night my honey lamb and I sit alone and talk, and watch the hawk making lazy circles in the sky."
Her Royal Spriteness
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I'm almost finished with my first historical story for lush. Hoedown at the Okay Corral.


ROFL! first genuine laugh of the day. thank you, Jack.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

Lurker
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Oklahoma is OK. smile I am a smart ass
Wild at Heart
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ROFL! first genuine laugh of the day. thank you, Jack.


I'm your chuckleberry.
Advanced Wordsmith
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The feeling of dread is unbearable as I look back over the four chapters I've previously written and submitted, the find function reveals 46 results for the word ok as I adjust my seating position due to excessive rear end puckering.

Much to my relief however, the word okay has been spelled correctly every time.

I anxiously await my fate as I lock all of the doors and windows, my heart is pounding at an alarming rate inside my chest.

I am scared because I know that I've made a fatal wording error somewhere, yet I am not equipped with the bravery or the knowledge to find it and destroy it at the source!

I fear that I may not erase it before it lays it's letter babies throughout my stories, I should be assassinated with an Oxford dictionary because all hope is lost =/



In all seriousness though, I probably have made enough mistakes in my writing to annoy someone who has never studied English. I should be able to spot these things, why are they so invisible to me? The mystery continues...
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The Linebacker
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"Ok" is not a word.

When you are writing prose, please take the extra three milliseconds to write the full word, okay?

I don't think the shortened version, OK, is ever necessary, but certainly not in general prose or in dialogue. Sometimes you will see it on signs or written on notes, but not in general use. Please stop it before you give me an aneurism.

(OK can also be confused with the two-letter abbreviation for Oklahoma).

</rant>


I completely agree. This is a pet peeve of mine too. OK or ok drives me crazy. The word is okay!
Head Penguin
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No one knows for certain the origins of OK. I know Lush prefers okay to OK, but both are acceptable really.

I don't care, either way.

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Her Royal Spriteness
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"OK" is the all-purpose American expression that became an all-purpose English expression that became an all-purpose expression in dozens of other languages. It can be an enthusiastic cheer (A parking spot! OK!), an unenthusiastic "meh" (How was the movie? It was…OK.), a way to draw attention to a topic shift (OK. Here's the next thing we need to do), or a number of other really useful things. It's amazing that we ever got along without it at all. But we did. Until 1839.

There may be more stories about the origin of "OK" than there are uses for it: it comes from the Haitian port "Aux Cayes," from Louisiana French au quai, from a Puerto Rican rum labeled "Aux Quais," from German alles korrekt or Ober-Kommando, from Chocktaw okeh, from Scots och aye, from Wolof waw kay, from Greek olla kalla, from Latin omnes korrecta. Other stories attribute it to bakers stamping their initials on biscuits, or shipbuilders marking wood for "outer keel," or Civil War soldiers carrying signs for "zero killed."

The truth about OK, as Allan Metcalf, the author of OK: The Improbable Story of America's Greatest Word, puts it, is that it was "born as a lame joke perpetrated by a newspaper editor in 1839." This is not just Metcalf's opinion or a half remembered story he once heard, as most OK stories are. His book is based in the thorough scholarship of Allen Walker Read, a Columbia professor who for years scoured historical sources for evidence about OK, and published his findings in a series of journal articles in 1963 to 1964.

IT STARTED WITH A JOKE

OK, here's the story. On Saturday, March 23, 1839, the editor of the Boston Morning Post published a humorous article about a satirical organization called the "Anti-Bell Ringing Society " in which he wrote:

The "Chairman of the Committee on Charity Lecture Bells," is one of the deputation, and perhaps if he should return to Boston, via Providence, he of the Journal, and his train-band, would have his "contribution box," et ceteras, o.k.—all correct—and cause the corks to fly, like sparks, upward.

It wasn't as strange as it might seem for the author to coin OK as an abbreviation for "all correct." There was a fashion then for playful abbreviations like i.s.b.d (it shall be done), r.t.b.s (remains to be seen), and s.p. (small potatoes). They were the early ancestors of OMG, LOL, and tl;dr. A twist on the trend was to base the abbreviations on alternate spellings or misspellings, so "no go" was k.g. (know go) and "all right" was o.w. (oll write). So it wasn't so surprising for someone come up with o.k. for oll korrect. What is surprising is that it ended up sticking around for so long while the other abbreviations faded away.

THEN IT GOT LUCKY

OK got lucky by hitting the contentious presidential election jackpot. During the 1840 election the "oll korrect" OK merged with Martin van Buren's nickname, Old Kinderhook, when some van Buren supporters formed the O.K. Club. After the club got into a few tussles with Harrison supporters, OK got mixed up with slandering and sloganeering. It meant out of kash, out of karacter, orful katastrophe, orfully confused, all kwarrelling or any other apt phrase a pundit could come up with. It also got mixed up with the popular pastime of making fun of van Buren's predecessor, Andrew Jackson, for his poor spelling. One paper published a half-serious claim that OK originated with Jackson using it as a mark for "all correct" (ole kurrek) on papers he had inspected.

OK was the "misunderestimated," "refudiated," and "binders full of women" of its day, and it may have ended up with the same transitory fate if not for the fact that at the very same time, the telegraph was coming into use, and OK was there, a handy abbreviation, ready to be of service. By the 1870s it had become the standard way for telegraph operators to acknowledge receiving a transmission, and it was well on its way to becoming the greatest American word.

But, as Metcalf says, its ultimate success may have depended on "the almost universal amnesia about the true origins of OK that took place early in the twentieth century. With the source of OK forgotten, each ethnic group and tribe could claim the honor of having ushered it into being from an expression in their native language." By forgetting where OK came from, we made it belong to us al

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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"OK" is the all-purpose American expression that became an all-purpose English expression that became an all-purpose expression in dozens of other languages. It can be an enthusiastic cheer (A parking spot! OK!), an unenthusiastic "meh" (How was the movie? It was…OK.), a way to draw attention to a topic shift (OK. Here's the next thing we need to do), or a number of other really useful things. It's amazing that we ever got along without it at all. But we did. Until 1839.

There may be more stories about the origin of "OK" than there are uses for it: it comes from the Haitian port "Aux Cayes," from Louisiana French au quai, from a Puerto Rican rum labeled "Aux Quais," from German alles korrekt or Ober-Kommando, from Chocktaw okeh, from Scots och aye, from Wolof waw kay, from Greek olla kalla, from Latin omnes korrecta. Other stories attribute it to bakers stamping their initials on biscuits, or shipbuilders marking wood for "outer keel," or Civil War soldiers carrying signs for "zero killed."

The truth about OK, as Allan Metcalf, the author of OK: The Improbable Story of America's Greatest Word, puts it, is that it was "born as a lame joke perpetrated by a newspaper editor in 1839." This is not just Metcalf's opinion or a half remembered story he once heard, as most OK stories are. His book is based in the thorough scholarship of Allen Walker Read, a Columbia professor who for years scoured historical sources for evidence about OK, and published his findings in a series of journal articles in 1963 to 1964.

IT STARTED WITH A JOKE

OK, here's the story. On Saturday, March 23, 1839, the editor of the Boston Morning Post published a humorous article about a satirical organization called the "Anti-Bell Ringing Society " in which he wrote:

The "Chairman of the Committee on Charity Lecture Bells," is one of the deputation, and perhaps if he should return to Boston, via Providence, he of the Journal, and his train-band, would have his "contribution box," et ceteras, o.k.—all correct—and cause the corks to fly, like sparks, upward.

It wasn't as strange as it might seem for the author to coin OK as an abbreviation for "all correct." There was a fashion then for playful abbreviations like i.s.b.d (it shall be done), r.t.b.s (remains to be seen), and s.p. (small potatoes). They were the early ancestors of OMG, LOL, and tl;dr. A twist on the trend was to base the abbreviations on alternate spellings or misspellings, so "no go" was k.g. (know go) and "all right" was o.w. (oll write). So it wasn't so surprising for someone come up with o.k. for oll korrect. What is surprising is that it ended up sticking around for so long while the other abbreviations faded away.

THEN IT GOT LUCKY

OK got lucky by hitting the contentious presidential election jackpot. During the 1840 election the "oll korrect" OK merged with Martin van Buren's nickname, Old Kinderhook, when some van Buren supporters formed the O.K. Club. After the club got into a few tussles with Harrison supporters, OK got mixed up with slandering and sloganeering. It meant out of kash, out of karacter, orful katastrophe, orfully confused, all kwarrelling or any other apt phrase a pundit could come up with. It also got mixed up with the popular pastime of making fun of van Buren's predecessor, Andrew Jackson, for his poor spelling. One paper published a half-serious claim that OK originated with Jackson using it as a mark for "all correct" (ole kurrek) on papers he had inspected.

OK was the "misunderestimated," "refudiated," and "binders full of women" of its day, and it may have ended up with the same transitory fate if not for the fact that at the very same time, the telegraph was coming into use, and OK was there, a handy abbreviation, ready to be of service. By the 1870s it had become the standard way for telegraph operators to acknowledge receiving a transmission, and it was well on its way to becoming the greatest American word.

But, as Metcalf says, its ultimate success may have depended on "the almost universal amnesia about the true origins of OK that took place early in the twentieth century. With the source of OK forgotten, each ethnic group and tribe could claim the honor of having ushered it into being from an expression in their native language." By forgetting where OK came from, we made it belong to us al


!!! NERD ALERT !!!
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!!! NERD ALERT !!!


I know, right? But ya gotta love her. biggrin
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“It's nice sometimes to open up the heart a little and let some hurt come in. It proves you're still alive.”
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I know, right? But ya gotta love her. biggrin


She's okay.
Bonnet Flaunter
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fyi, anyone submitting a story using "okay" instead of "OK" is getting it edited back to "OK" and then forwarded to Clum.


Okeydokey
Her Royal Spriteness
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She's okay.


You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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What's this Eau de Colognema?


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Okay okay, I take it back... I meant to say Sprite is A-OK in my book. Better?
Senior Analyst
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First of all, I love sprite madly.

Now then: "OK" is certainly a word. We can disagree about how it should properly be spelled (or "spelt") but it is nonsense to proclaim that the sound is not meaningful to almost all speakers of English, plus a good segment of the non-English speaking world.

Dictionaries almost universally specify "OK" as the primary spelling, with "okay" a usually accepted variant, and "O.K." an occasionally accepted variant.

Merriam-Webster Dictionary, American Heritage Dictionary
Definition is "OK", with "okay" listed as a variant.

Dictionary.com
OK or O.K., okay

Publishers have "style books" that tell writers how to put their work in a form that aligns with the standards of the publication:

Associated Press, Wall Street Journal, Guardian, Sydney Morning Herald, The Guardian and Observer
OK

The Telegraph
OK (only in quotes)

Star-Ledger (New Jersey, USA), Reuters
okay

New York Times
O.K.

National Geographic, BBC, The Economist
Does not mention

Wikipedia Manual of Style
Does not mention, but entries in the manual itself use OK and okay interchangeably

There are independent style guides also:

Garbl's Editorial Style and Usage Manual, Tameri Guide for Style
OK

Gregg Reference Manual
okay

The Grammarist (web site)
"Okay, OK, and O.K. are all acceptable spellings of the word. OK is more common in edited writing, but okay appears about a third of the time. O.K. is preferred by a few publications, including the New York Times, even though it is not an abbreviation of anything in modern use."

The Chicago Manual of Style
“OK” as the first spelling—but that does not mean it is preferred. Rather, “okay” is an equal variant (also standard).

I'll leave the final opinion to the "fictorians.com" reference site for fiction writers:

Fiction Writers: Use “Okay” ... if you’re a professional fiction writer, you should be relying on the Chicago Manual of Style, not your friends’ opinions.
Chicago requires “okay.” End of story.

News Writers: Use “OK” ... the conclusion is entirely different if you write press releases or articles for your local newspaper.
The Associated Press Stylebook requires “OK.” End of story.

Speaking personally, since Lush Stories does not have a style guide, I'm going to use whichever damn spelling I feel like.
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The Oxford English Dictionary accepts 'OK' to mean 'OKAY'.


Active Ink Slinger
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The Guardian Style Guide says "OK is OK, okay is not"

The Oxford Manual of Style prefers OK

Collins dictionary is happy with both but refers to "okay" as a variant
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