US Presidential election

Biden is falling apart. He’s old, amazingly so. He’s confused on stage, he fumbles every interview. No one is excited for him. He barely beat Trump when he was coherent and Trump was at his lowest. He cannot win and he’s pulling down the Dems chance at the house and senate.

It was not one bad night, it’s a consistent pattern. Another candidate may get people to the election halls because Biden does not excite anyone. The Democrats shot themselves in the foot when they quashed all opposition during primary season. They refused to let Biden debate then and hid his failings. But they can’t do that anymore. If they don’t want Trump to win, or at the very least if they want a chance to stop the Republicans from controlling all three branches they need someone else on top of that ticket. Biden is a rot for the party.

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Biden is falling apart. He’s old, amazingly so. He’s confused on stage, he fumbles every interview. No one is excited for him. He barely beat Trump when he was coherent and Trump was at his lowest. He cannot win and he’s pulling down the Dems chance at the house and senate.

It was not one bad night, it’s a consistent pattern. Another candidate may get people to the election halls because Biden does not excite anyone. The Democrats shot themselves in the foot when they quashed all opposition during primary season. They refused to let Biden debate then and his his failings. But they can’t do that anymore. If they don’t want Trump to win, or at the very least if they want a chance to stop the Republicans from controlling all three branches they need someone else on top of that ticket. Biden is a rot for the party.

But you said you want Trump to win.. so by you saying you want the Dems to switch candidates is it because that’s a dumb move (it is) or do you just not want the Dems to win with Biden? Because whoever they put is going to be the same policy. You’re just not making sense Rowan.

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But you said you want Trump to win.. so by you saying you want the Dems to switch candidates is it because that’s a dumb move (it is) or do you just not want the Dems to win with Biden? Because whoever they put is going to be the same policy. You’re just not making sense Rowan.

The spirit of knowledge keeps pursuing you, but you evade it at every turn.

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Did you see them chanting FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT while pumping their fists at the RNC? Looking like Nazis for real.

The only items missing were the mosquito repellent tiki torches as seen in Charlottesville.

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I really don't get why the Democrats keep sabotaging themselves by focusing on that stupid debate and still keep asking him to drop out.

If we have learned one thing since Trump showed up, you have to leave those things behind. If Trump can get away with all the shit he pulls, Biden should easily be able to brush off that debate performance.

I like Kamala, but it's too late, they should have tried to push her two years ago to make this happen.

Biden needs a win, some sort of game-changer to turn this shitshow around.

The other guy sowed chaos on a daily basis when he was in office. Lies flowed from his lips about everything. He was the greatest in the world of doing everything for everyone, some say. He failed to deliver on anything sensible - didn't pull the US out of Afghanistan over 4 years, increased drone useage levels over that of the Obama years, more soldiers died doing their jobs - than have under Biden - 65 to 16 is the score on that point.

He created further division between the far right and everyone else who don't identify as racists, misogynists or selfish/greedy borderline criminals. And then he tried to overthrow a fair election and our current form of government when he got his ass kicked in the 2020 election. January 6th and his involvement/instigation should disqualify him from holding even a mayorship in any small redneck town in a red state.

Biden/Harris - should run on their fantastic record of achievements for ALL Americans. I'm not going to type a wall of text reflecting those accomplishments, it's easy to look them all up elsewhere. Biden has restored dignity and diplomacy while strengthening our NATO partnerships - Trump wants to let the dictators of the world - start wars of aggression (he held Ukraine hostage for months prior to the Russian invasion in Feb 2022 - and if elected - Ukraine will be swallowed up whole).

Now is Kamala's turn to take the reigns (and the war che$t of donations already accrued by Biden) - she's the Veep and the most logical choice to combat the wombat in November. She'd wipe the floor with him and the Harvard Hillbilly. She simply needs a strong VP choice of her own, to help.

The shitshow lasted from 2017 to 2021 culminating in the most embarrassing and violent attempt at a coup de'tat in American history.

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If we have learned one thing since Trump showed up, you have to leave those things behind. If Trump can get away with all the shit he pulls, Biden should easily be able to brush off that debate performance.

That suggests that the MAGA crowd cares about the same things as the no-Trumpsters, which is clearly not the case.

Biden needs a win, some sort of game-changer to turn this shitshow around.

Common sense and democracy need a win. And Biden may not be the one to deliver it.

Trump will for sure win now.

The democrats have conceded. Far right (and Rowan) will now make America great again.

Now they actually have a chance. With someone like Harris on the ticket they actually have hope at motivating people to the polls.

Might be too little, too late. But they have a lot better chance than with Biden sundowning on stage. If we’re lucky the Dems can pull off the senate and thus aggressively be able to quash Trump appointments if he wins.

Either way at least it’s a race again. Functionally she’s the same politically as Biden, won’t rock many far leftists but it will motivate the base at least.

It's good news that someone clearly too old has stood aside. 81 is too old to be president whatever party you stand for, and that includes Trump, 78 now and 82 in four years. But how did it take this long for the Left and the Democrats to unite behind the idea that it's time for the next generation?

I think the concession would have been far more impactful if Biden conceded the presidency to VP Harris now. Let her take the reins now and rally the people that way.

Either way, we’re still fucked, but let’s see how it pans out.

What’s dumb is I think Trump could have been soundly defeated had the Democrats not insisted on pushing their broken puppet through an unopposed primary.

Harris probably had a good chance of winning a legit primary, but now they’ll have to deal with some backlash of a process with no public input at all. The Democrats will put forth a Presidential and VP candidates who have gotten not one vote from their base. It’s still a better gamble than the March to oblivion that Biden provided.

Next couple of weeks will be interesting. Hope Felix can call get a refund for his Biden 24’ tattoo on his neck.

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I think the concession would have been far more impactful if Biden conceded the presidency to VP Harris now. Let her take the reins now and rally the people that way.

Either way, we’re still fucked, but let’s see how it pans out.

I agree. But the current Republican spin minutes after the concession is that Biden is already mentally incompetent and the Democrats have been hiding his ailing mental state.

An ironic claim by the Reagan party but we’ll see if that rhetoric sticks.

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What’s dumb is I think Trump could have been soundly defeated had the Democrats not insisted on pushing their broken puppet through an unopposed primary.

Harris probably had a good chance of winning a legit primary, but now they’ll have to deal with some backlash of a process with no public input at all. The Democrats will put forth a Presidential and VP candidates who have gotten not one vote from their base. It’s still a better gamble than the March to oblivion that Biden provided.

Next couple of weeks will be interesting. Hope Felix can call get a refund for his Biden 24’ tattoo on his neck.

But this is good remember? You said you wanted Trump to win so that things get so bad that people will vote for the Green Party… that’s what you said.

The democrats panicked because the conservatives and leftists podcasters criticized Biden for fucking up the debate and not like you know, Trump and his dictatorship plans.

But like you say, maybe it will get so bad we’ll have have to live through ruin for 30 years and then the Green Party will win and legalize weed or something.

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But this is good remember? You said you wanted Trump to win so that things get so bad that people will vote for the Green Party… that’s what you said.

The democrats panicked because the conservatives and leftists podcasters criticized Biden for fucking up the debate and not like you know, Trump and his dictatorship plans.

But like you say, maybe it will get so bad we’ll have have to live through ruin for 30 years and then the Green Party will win and legalize weed or something.

I would say they more fucked it up by sponsoring a sundowning old geezer unopposed through a primary process when he had terrible polling numbers. But I guess I'm not tapped into the self-insert BIden fanfic crowd like you are. I'm sure it's angered the octogenarian-lovers like yourself.

So what you're saying is Biden voters will not vote for Harris?

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I think the concession would have been far more impactful if Biden conceded the presidency to VP Harris now. Let her take the reins now and rally the people that way.

Either way, we’re still fucked, but let’s see how it pans out.

Harris is too easy of a Target, she’s from one of the biggest shitholes in the country and San Francisco has become a place any American that’s not from San Francisco doesn’t like going because of the insane crime, filth and high prices anywhere in the city that’s not bordering on dystopia. That’s all they have to attack her on. Too easy. The being brown and a woman thing they don’t even have to waste time on. At least she’s not gay, and I guess she can do so photo-ops in a church.

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I would say they more fucked it up by sponsoring a sundowning old geezer unopposed through a primary process when he had terrible polling numbers. But I guess I'm not tapped into the self-insert BIden fanfic crowd like you are. I'm sure it's angered the octogenarian-lovers like yourself.

So what you're saying is Biden voters will not vote for Harris?

You’re chronically online.. that’s why you’re brainwashed into thinking that a third party will rise out of the ashes after a trump presidency lol

most people are going to be like “wait what… we voted for Biden but now the nominee is going to be someone we didn’t vote for? It’s going to be Kamala???” Most people have heard her speak a couple times in 2020 and that’s it.

Look at who’s the most happy about this, and you’ll see who were the ones who really wanted the democrats to shoot themselves in the foot.

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You’re chronically online.. that’s why you’re brainwashed into thinking that a third party will rise out of the ashes after a trump presidency lol

most people are going to be like “wait what… we voted for Biden but now the nominee is going to be someone we didn’t vote for? It’s going to be Kamala???” Most people have heard her speak a couple times in 2020 and that’s it.

Look at who’s the most happy about this, and you’ll see who were the ones who really wanted the democrats to shoot themselves in the foot.

Democrats are happy. The revolt has quelled instantly, and they all are happy to coalesce behind Harris. Harris (with no vast campaign for months backing her as president) polls better than BIden against Trump by 5% with likely voters. That's absolutely huge.

The Republicans are furious and still attacking Biden instead of Harris. They had an easy win. Some of them are trying to call the swap illegal and saying that Biden has to run from fringe, unhinged legal theories. Their #1 campaign issue and tons of their already paid-for advertising attacks Joe's age. It's literally money down the drain at this point. This is actually their worst-case scenario.

Harris is actually a really strong debater as well. She's performed well in the past, so much so that the Vance camp released a statement 3 days ago that he refused to debate her.

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Democrats are happy. The revolt has quelled instantly, and they all are happy to coalesce behind Harris. Harris (with no vast campaign for months backing her as president) polls better than BIden against Trump by 5% with likely voters. That's absolutely huge.

The Republicans are furious and still attacking Biden instead of Harris. They had an easy win. Some of them are trying to call the swap illegal and saying that Biden has to run from fringe, unhinged legal theories. Their #1 campaign issue and tons of their already paid-for advertising attacks Joe's age. It's literally money down the drain at this point. This is actually their worst-case scenario.

Harris is actually a really strong debater as well. She's performed well in the past, so much so that the Vance camp released a statement 3 days ago that he refused to debate her.

Completely backwards.. chronically online listening to dumbass far leftists.

Polls… how was Hillary doing in the polls.

But maybe you’re right… Harris will inspire everyone for the first time.

Still confused since you said you wanted the democrats to lose. Not sure why you say this is good for dems if you want them to lose or are you now changing your mind on that?

Also who is the nominee of the third party you are voting for (if you’re still doing that, sorry you have a very confusing stance)

This is who is happy by the way. To the normal person who has a life and only sees the sanitized version of Trump on the cable news, Biden dropping out makes it look like Trump was right the whole time.

Omg, it's like they had a huge team of people ready for this extremely likely scenario and had a prepared statement ready to try and spin it. Oh wow. So surprising.

Does your clown nose honk when you hit the submit button?

I've not checked the news all day, has something happened?

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Omg, it's like they had a huge team of people ready for this extremely likely scenario and had a prepared statement ready to try and spin it. Oh wow. So surprising.

Does your clown nose honk when you hit the submit button?

You sound upset..

Anyway, I’m still confused since you said you wanted the democrats to lose. Not sure why you say this is good for dems if you want them to lose or are you now changing your mind on that?

Also who is the nominee of the third party you are voting for (if you’re still doing that, sorry you have a very confusing stance)

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You sound upset..

Anyway, I’m still confused since you said you wanted the democrats to lose. Not sure why you say this is good for dems if you want them to lose or are you now changing your mind on that?

Also who is the nominee of the third party you are voting for (if you’re still doing that, sorry you have a very confusing stance)

Why would I be upset? Honestly, this has proven exactly what I was saying for weeks. Watching you flounder is just a bonus.

I'm not speaking as to what I want or not. I'm speaking for the Democrats chances of winning. My ideal scenario would be split power (congress is Dem, President is Republican) because it creates a blockade of bad policies from either side going through.

Democrats are more than willing to back war, oil companies, and the billionaire class so long as they control the presidency. They will performatively fight many of these policies when a Republican is calling the shots. When Dems control congress and executive they create as much destruction as the Republicans.

The way things were going, Biden was pulling down all chances for Democrats to have control of the House of Senate.

I haven't changed my current choice of Cornell West, but California ballots are still not finalized. I'll see who I've got when that happens.

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I've not checked the news all day, has something happened?

Biden dropped out and endorsed Harris. All the Democrats immediately released statements backing her pretty much ensuring she'll coast to the nomination as was pretty much expected.

VP will still be up in the air. My guess is they'll probably tap Gavin Newsom which is a bonus for me because he'll vacate the Governor position here. But that's probably going to be a fierce but quick competition. They'll likely have this wrapped up in a week or two on who that is.

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Why would I be upset? Honestly, this has proven exactly what I was saying for weeks. Watching you flounder is just a bonus.

I'm not speaking as to what I want or not. I'm speaking for the Democrats chances of winning. My ideal scenario would be split power (congress is Dem, President is Republican) because it creates a blockade of bad policies from either side going through.

Democrats are more than willing to back war, oil companies, and the billionaire class so long as they control the presidency. They will performatively fight many of these policies when a Republican is calling the shots. When Dems control congress and executive they create as much destruction as the Republicans.

The way things were going, Biden was pulling down all chances for Democrats to have control of the House of Senate.

I haven't changed my current choice of Cornell West, but California ballots are still not finalized. I'll see who I've got when that happens.

lol what… so gridlock..

Oh ok you’re in California. well it doesn’t matter what you do then Cornell west haha

The democrats next week

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lol what… so gridlock..

Oh ok you’re in California. well it doesn’t matter what you do then Cornell west haha

Yes, Gridlock. When both parties will sell you out on a whim of their lobbyists gridlock is better than wholesale support of corporate interests.

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Yes, Gridlock. When both parties will sell you out on a whim of their lobbyists gridlock is better than wholesale support of corporate interests.

This is the worst online revolution ever Rowen

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VP will still be up in the air. My guess is they'll probably tap Gavin Newsom which is a bonus for me because he'll vacate the Governor position here.

Newsom can't be running mate to Harris as they're from the same state.