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Right, but stuff like "Office Sex" and "Flash," particularly the latter, seem plain lifted from lush. Maybe I'm wrong, but they're not everyday categories.

Kind of like a kid cutting and pasting a term paper, and cutting the paragraphs that don't pertain to topic / interests.
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okay, it's back up. I left a comment. I couldn't help myself


it's gone again
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it's gone again


It has indeed
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Looks like xporno.tv pretty much copied every story on lush
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There are no Gay Male or Bisexual categories there, to name a few.
Looks like a Russian site, and you know Putin's attitude toward promoting gay sex
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They didn't steal any of mine. I don't know whether that's good or bad.
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Mine are there too!
A big thank you to Chica for alerting me.
I have emailed them demanding they remove all my stories from their site but was ignored.




I have noticed several of my stories there as well.

Most sites will copy the stories but leave Lushes copyright and the person who wrote the story on.

THIS SITE DIDN'T DO ANY OF THAT.

They just STOLE....

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I ran seven of my stories through Google Search (choose a particular sentence, preferably not containing a character name, out of any given story, do a search, Google will pull sites with sentences that match exactly). ALL seven have been stolen.

That xporno site is by far the worst...but the total count of sites with one or more of my stories (and this is just of seven--I stopped after that) is > 100. Bloody fuckers.
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Mine are also on that XPORNO site as well. But the user that has uploaded them is also XPORNO - so they have completely ignored the writer of the stories. I don't want my stories on any other site, but I guess there's nothing anyone can do about this is there.

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On a serious note, a thought for the admins here, all stories on Lush, should be in image format, png, jpeg, gif...
It's not the perfect solution, but it will make the thieves work harder.


That would be ignoring the way the web works and there are many downsides to that:
- text gets blurry when zooming in, unless the image is really huge
- text can't be read out loud by screen readers
- text won't be indexed by search engines
- text won't adapt to different screen sizes

There's always a risk of content being copied when one publishes online. You're either willing to take that risk or you shouldn't publish online. An advantage is that online copies are way easier to track than offline copies though.


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I've been posting stories online for many years, and, yes, from time to time, I do find my stories posted elsewhere without my consent. So long as the perpetrators are not making a financial profit from my work, it's never really bothered me.

But it seems that many people who complain about their works being stolen, are actually committing the same unethical act themselves.

For example, nearly every person on Lush has photos uploaded to this site for various uses -- wallpaper, photo albums, avatar, story covers, etc. Now unless you hold the copyright to those photos, you are breaking copyright laws by posting someone else's work on a different site without the copyright holders' permission.

I'm sure this site has received hundreds, if not thousands, of take down notices over the years for copyright infringement regarding photos.

So are certain people being a little bit hypocritical?

I might be wrong. Please put me straight if I've made a mistake.
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For example, nearly every person on Lush has photos uploaded to this site for various uses -- wallpaper, photo albums, avatar, story covers, etc. Now unless you hold the copyright to those photos, you are breaking copyright laws by posting someone else's work on a different site without the copyright holders' permission.

I'm sure this site has received hundreds, if not thousands, of take down notices over the years for copyright infringement regarding photos.

So are certain people being a little bit hypocritical?

I might be wrong. Please put me straight if I've made a mistake.


Your avatar is a painting called 'Just A Moment Please' by Stefan Kuhn.

There's a difference between using an image as a background on a profile page or avatar, and deliberately passing off other people's written work as your own or deliberately stealing it with the intent of using it to generate money via traffic and ads.
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I've been posting stories online for many years, and, yes, from time to time, I do find my stories posted elsewhere without my consent. So long as the perpetrators are not making a financial profit from my work, it's never really bothered me.

But it seems that many people who complain about their works being stolen, are actually committing the same unethical act themselves.

For example, nearly every person on Lush has photos uploaded to this site for various uses -- wallpaper, photo albums, avatar, story covers, etc. Now unless you hold the copyright to those photos, you are breaking copyright laws by posting someone else's work on a different site without the copyright holders' permission.

I'm sure this site has received hundreds, if not thousands, of take down notices over the years for copyright infringement regarding photos.

So are certain people being a little bit hypocritical?

I might be wrong. Please put me straight if I've made a mistake.


This.


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There's a difference between using an image as a background on a profile page or avatar, and deliberately passing off other people's written work as your own.


It is only different if they explicitly state that it's theirs, not if they just copy the story without naming the author, as is the case with almost all pics here and elsewhere. If there's a difference then it's that in the case of images people probably assume it's not theirs because it's so common.


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Your avatar is a painting called 'Just A Moment Please' by Stefan Kuhn.


I know it is. I never said I'm innocent of posting other people's work without their consent. I said that people breaking copyright laws and then complaining that their work has been posted elsewhere are being a tad hypocritical.
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It is only different if they explicitly state that it's theirs, not if they just copy the story without naming the author, as is the case with almost all pics here and elsewhere. If there's a difference then it's that in the case of images people probably assume it's not theirs because it's so common.


They copy the stories for site content in order to drive up traffic from search engines and earn ad revenue. It is theft with the specific intent of commercial gain. That's the difference.
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It is only different if they explicitly state that it's theirs, not if they just copy the story without naming the author, as is the case with almost all pics here and elsewhere. If there's a difference then it's that in the case of images people probably assume it's not theirs because it's so common.


This exactly.

From what I gather from the posts in this thread, this Xporno site is just displaying people's stories without taking credit. The same thing thousands of people on this site do with photos.
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I know it is. I never said I'm innocent of posting other people's work without their consent. I said that people breaking copyright laws and then complaining that their work has been posted elsewhere is being a tad hypocritical.


*shrugs* let's put this in other terms. having a picture taken in front of someone else's car and then telling people it's your car in the picture is differet than stealing their car and telling people's it's yours. smile

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They copy the stories for site content in order to drive up traffic from search engines and earn ad revenue. It is theft with the specific intent of commercial gain. That's the difference.


They might be doing it for financial gains, but you don't know that for certain. They might be doing it as a hobby.

We here on Lush post pictures to make our profiles and stories seem more attractive to the eye. So we infringe copyright for attention gains. This other site is infringing copyright for financial gains.

Same principle -- different motive.
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*shrugs* let's put this in other terms. having a picture taken in front of someone else's car and then telling people it's your car in the picture is differet than stealing their car and telling people's it's yours. smile


I have never claimed that I am innocent of copyright. I'll admit, I infringe copyright all the time. I'm a very naughty boy that should be spanked on a regular basis.

My point is, people who infringe copyright and then complain that their work has been stolen are being hypocritical.
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I have never claimed that I am innocent of copyright. I'll admit, I infringe copyright all the time. I'm a very naughty boy that should be spanked on a regular basis.

My point is, people who infringe copyright and then complain that their work has been stolen are being hypocritical.


gonna make a lot of friends with the authors here that way, ya know.

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gonna make a lot of friends with the authors here that way, ya know.


Oh, don't be that. I was only trying to start a debate. I'll go back into my corner and mind my own business then.

We all break copyright laws all the time uploading pics. That's all I was saying.
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Oh, don't be that. I was only trying to start a debate. I'll go back into my corner and mind my own business then.


lol - i don't have an issue with it, just pointing out that it comes across as not only calling people hypocrites, but defending Plagiarism. smile

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lol - i don't have an issue with it, just pointing out that it comes across as not only calling people hypocrites, but defending Plagiarism. smile


I'm not defending plagiarism.

Plagiarism is copyright theft of written works. It's basically stealing someone else's work. People on Lush do that all the time when they upload pictures from Google images and post them here. It's the same act with the same unethical principles. The only difference is one's written and the other is visual.

I've never defended plagiarism.
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From what I understand the stories can't be copied in standard viewing format. Is that correct?
I had assumed if they are being copied this must be due to the pdf accessibility, yes?

If this is so, is it an option for the view as pdf option to be OPT IN rather than opt out (as is currently).
(perhaps this needs to go in the suggestion thread, yes)

Do you think this would have any effect on how frequently and easily material is copied?
Those authors that opt in to have pdf accessibility may then be more aware / acknowledging increased copying potential.
I don't know, just a thought.
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From what I understand the stories can't be copied in standard viewing format. Is that correct?
I had assumed if they are being copied this must be due to the pdf accessibility, yes?

If this is so, is it an option for the view as pdf option to be OPT IN rather than opt out (as is currently).
(perhaps this needs to go in the suggestion thread, yes)

Do you think this would have any effect on how frequently and easily material is copied?
Those authors that opt in to have pdf accessibility may then be more aware / acknowledging increased copying potential.
I don't know, just a thought.



No, they use a scraping technique. They don't go through the PDF accessibility. I've been opted out of PDF since it was first offered, and my stories still regularly show up all over the place.

I don't know the technical ins and outs of scraping, but it definitely isn't affected by the PDF option.
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No, they use a scraping technique. They don't go through the PDF accessibility. I've been opted out of PDF since it was first offered, and my stories still regularly show up all over the place.

I don't know the technical ins and outs of scraping, but it definitely isn't affected by the PDF option.


Thanks fr the clarification smile
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I'm not actually sure that this Xporno site can be accused of plagiarism.

I've just been doing some research, and from what I've gathered, an act of literary theft can only be classed as plagiarism if the perpetrators are passing off someone else's work as their own.

I've not checked the site out, but from what I've gathered from previous posts here, the people responsible are not claiming the stolen works were written by themselves. Instead merely posting them without crediting the genuine author.

Can posting someone else's work on another site be classed as plagiarism if the perps are not taking credit and claiming they wrote it? It's literary theft, certainly, but is it plagiarism?

I honestly don't know the answer; law isn't my strong suit.