I saw a movie once, can´t remember the name and I'm too lazy to google it, but the protagonists were Jim Carrey and Kristen Dust.
It was the future, and they had invented a pill to heal broken-hearts. When you took it all the memories associated to that person were erased from your brain, so you could see her walking down the street and she would be an anonymous face.
When I saw the movie I thought the whole thing was so exagerated that sounded ridiculous, but nowadays I could understand people who did that, and even myself would struggle not to take them pills if I had them on my hands.
Erasing a part of your life, memory and past just to avoid pain. Would you do it?
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Maybe, but you would also forget the really good times you had with that person. I have some really good memories of past boyfriends i dont want to forget.
Also, you might end up going out with someone exactly like them, or even worse, that actual person again, because you have no idea what they're like. Good thing about bad memories is that it keeps you from making the same mistake twice.
Also, you might end up going out with someone exactly like them, or even worse, that actual person again, because you have no idea what they're like. Good thing about bad memories is that it keeps you from making the same mistake twice.
Good point,MM.
"Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind " is the name of the movie.
Kristen Dust had a crush on her boss, an older married man. So he convinced her to take the pill (after shagging her quite a while, of course). The next day she was back at the office greeting her "boss", like if nothing had happened...but in a few weeks she is in love with him again, and discovered the whole thing, she feels cheated and starts a crusade against those pills, trying to track down all the people who had taken the pills and tell them the truth.
That movie is very deep, raises several ethic issues.
In another scene there were an elderly couple who wanted to erase the memory of their late pet dog, and the whole thing went out of hand, I guess messing with the brain aint a good idea. Call me old-school, but I prefer alcohol.
"Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind " is the name of the movie.
Kristen Dust had a crush on her boss, an older married man. So he convinced her to take the pill (after shagging her quite a while, of course). The next day she was back at the office greeting her "boss", like if nothing had happened...but in a few weeks she is in love with him again, and discovered the whole thing, she feels cheated and starts a crusade against those pills, trying to track down all the people who had taken the pills and tell them the truth.
That movie is very deep, raises several ethic issues.
In another scene there were an elderly couple who wanted to erase the memory of their late pet dog, and the whole thing went out of hand, I guess messing with the brain aint a good idea. Call me old-school, but I prefer alcohol.
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Oh good grief, No!
Aside from what MM quite rightly says, it is all those 'life experiences' that, cumulatively, made me the awesome Dude I am today. Remove the memories and what I learned and I might end up being some self indulgent, narcissist.
God, it's good to be me
Aside from what MM quite rightly says, it is all those 'life experiences' that, cumulatively, made me the awesome Dude I am today. Remove the memories and what I learned and I might end up being some self indulgent, narcissist.
God, it's good to be me
"Whoa, lady, I only speak two languages, English and bad English." - Korben Dallas, from The Fifth Element
"If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must man be of learning from experience?" - George Bernard Shaw
"If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must man be of learning from experience?" - George Bernard Shaw
Artistic Tart
I'd think about it at least- I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
What good does it do me to carry around memories and scars of bad things from the past- especially when there are no lessons to be learned? No good whatsoever. There's nothing to be gained by pretending those moments help me later in life, they don't. They aren't fables, they're real events that changed who I was. Do I think I'd be better without a lot of those things having happened? You bet your ass I do.
Whoever it is that says "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" either insists on lying to themselves or hasn't felt real pain- the deep scarring that changes not just you, but the world that exists around you forever.
What doesn't kill you hacks away at you a little at a time instead. Eventually there will be a final hack that takes you down.
I'd think seriously about taking that pill.
What good does it do me to carry around memories and scars of bad things from the past- especially when there are no lessons to be learned? No good whatsoever. There's nothing to be gained by pretending those moments help me later in life, they don't. They aren't fables, they're real events that changed who I was. Do I think I'd be better without a lot of those things having happened? You bet your ass I do.
Whoever it is that says "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" either insists on lying to themselves or hasn't felt real pain- the deep scarring that changes not just you, but the world that exists around you forever.
What doesn't kill you hacks away at you a little at a time instead. Eventually there will be a final hack that takes you down.
I'd think seriously about taking that pill.
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This reply isn't too easy for me to write. As I sit here, the topic itself has reminded me of many of the worst, most fucked-up episodes in my life. I'm pensive, thinking about all the broken bones I've had, the rips, the tears... all the scars I bear, both inside and out. Nobody ever knows how much trauma another person has felt in their lives. I've been through some severe shit in my life, but even so I know that there are people in the world that have had it worse off than me.
Still, though, I wouldn't take the pill. There have been times in my life when I've felt like I was absolutely on my last thread. Emotional times when I felt like I was in a tunnel and there was no light at the end - weeks of darkness with no respite.
Still, I wouldn't take that pill.
Thinking of the worst times in my life gets me down, sure. The old hurts come back, the old scars throb, and I limp slightly more than normal. But broken hearts do mend, eventually. Broken bones heal, and life goes on. Thinking of all the assholes that have hurt me in my life also makes me think of all the wonderful people I've met - many of them are right here on Lush, and some of them play an important (even if it is only temporary) part in my life. Knowing how cruel and hurtful life can be makes me appreciate the beauty that much more. If all I ever saw were the good times, I wouldn't enjoy them nearly so much, because I have a background to judge them against. The beautiful people here are all the more beautiful because they don't HAVE to be that way - they just are. And I love them for it. Take away the evil that I know exists, and you would take away my ability to love the good.
And now I want a drink...
Still, though, I wouldn't take the pill. There have been times in my life when I've felt like I was absolutely on my last thread. Emotional times when I felt like I was in a tunnel and there was no light at the end - weeks of darkness with no respite.
Still, I wouldn't take that pill.
Thinking of the worst times in my life gets me down, sure. The old hurts come back, the old scars throb, and I limp slightly more than normal. But broken hearts do mend, eventually. Broken bones heal, and life goes on. Thinking of all the assholes that have hurt me in my life also makes me think of all the wonderful people I've met - many of them are right here on Lush, and some of them play an important (even if it is only temporary) part in my life. Knowing how cruel and hurtful life can be makes me appreciate the beauty that much more. If all I ever saw were the good times, I wouldn't enjoy them nearly so much, because I have a background to judge them against. The beautiful people here are all the more beautiful because they don't HAVE to be that way - they just are. And I love them for it. Take away the evil that I know exists, and you would take away my ability to love the good.
And now I want a drink...
Just an FYI, it was Friedrich Nietzsche. He was a philosopher.
And no, I wouldn't take the pill either. My experiences in life, good and bad, have helped make me the person I am now. I think better for having learned from them.
Whoever it is that says "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" either insists on lying to themselves or hasn't felt real pain
And no, I wouldn't take the pill either. My experiences in life, good and bad, have helped make me the person I am now. I think better for having learned from them.
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I wouldn't want to erase my memories. However, I wouldn't mind having a time machine and going back in time to a point where something painful was about to happen and "rewriting" it.
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I wouldn't do it. Pain makes you stronger, or at least wiser.
I wouldn't want to forget all things ive been through, then i wouldn't be me anymore, id be some stranger that ive never met. And personally i don't think im that bad lol.
I wouldn't want to forget all things ive been through, then i wouldn't be me anymore, id be some stranger that ive never met. And personally i don't think im that bad lol.
Alpha Blonde
I think this is all relative to what you've experienced in life.
I'd be fine to keep most of the bad, as I agree, every challenging, soul-crushing or disappointing moment has shaped who we are today. I certainly wouldn't change meeting the people I have in life, nor would I erase any bad relationships.
There is one memory I'd love to remove though. No good has come of it, nor ever will. So hand me my eraser-pill and a martini. Bottoms up!
I'd be fine to keep most of the bad, as I agree, every challenging, soul-crushing or disappointing moment has shaped who we are today. I certainly wouldn't change meeting the people I have in life, nor would I erase any bad relationships.
There is one memory I'd love to remove though. No good has come of it, nor ever will. So hand me my eraser-pill and a martini. Bottoms up!
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I honestly would be afraid to erase any part of my life. I fear if any one of the lessons were to disappear I might regress. Life is rough for the hard headed ones I think.
Torture the data long enough and they will confess to anything.
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NO WAY Because I would not want to forget all the pleasure that resulted in that pain no matter how painful!
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Unfortunately it is the memories of the good times that make the heart hurt so much. Just think if the memories were bad then the heart wouldn't hurt when you lost somebody.
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That which does not kill us makes us stronger. Friedrich Nietzsche
Without the bad stuff we would all be utterly vulnerable to exploitation of every kind. Besides, knowing I have been through bad stuff and come out the other side is a kind of satisfaction in itself.
Without the bad stuff we would all be utterly vulnerable to exploitation of every kind. Besides, knowing I have been through bad stuff and come out the other side is a kind of satisfaction in itself.
If you're going through hell, keep going. - Winston Churchill
Very interesting movie. At the time I thought how unrealistic is this! Today, I would say PLEASE GOD PLEASE give me this pill and take my hurt away, but the more I think about it, how would I learn from mistakes and how would I be able to apply that to other experiences yet to be had if I erased these memories.
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Quote by MMonroe
Good thing about bad memories is that it keeps you from making the same mistake twice.
I think that's spot on.
I wouldn't want to take the pill either.
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No Way! Although I have had some bad expirences in life, the good ones and the great times out weigh the bad. I want to remember everything I can. So when that one lady looks at me and ask "Do I know you?" I'll know the answer.
Well that's just my opinion, sorry if you don't like.
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