When I lived in Vegas I saw both sides. There are sad stories and good stories from the trade. It all depends just like any other business how the 'owner' treats the business. Do they subcontract out, or freelance.
The sad ones I knew all had 'problems' and were soon walking the streets instead of the clubs and casinos, or the houses in Parhump. Others I knew were school teachers, wives helping out the family, etc from other states. The'd come to Vegas for a few months make what they need and go home.
Knew the owner of a totally nude club and he treated his girls with great respect, helped them get degrees. He hated abortions and if one of his girls got pg he'd give her the option of living on his ranch, having the baby and keeping the child with his help, or adoption. Did everything he could to stop them from having the abortion, if they decided to go with it he'd pay for it and keep them at his ranch until they decided what to do with themselves.
And like any business if you go into it fucked up and not knowing how to succeed you'll only wind up the worse off.
My wife wanted to do it to help out with our bills once, but she was too fucked up from former parental abuse and I vetoed it. If she hadn't been I would have had no problem with it.
To all the Lush ladies and gents that have done it and been successful my hats off to your abilities to be successful.
There is never any telling where that dollar, that Andrew Jackson (who was a fucking bigot racist), that quarter, has been, Money is generally nasty as hell. Read an article once about the percentage of bills that had traces of cocaine and other drugs on them. I forgot what it was, but it was a surprisingly substantial percentage.
So wash your hands or use hand sanitizer a lot!
This also makes me ask if indeed sexually transmitted germs can be had by ways other than sex. But it is called "sexually transmitted" for that very reason - sex. Just imagine if they were easily transmitted by touching things like money, shaking hands, etc., we all would be in a lot of trouble, because we all are eating or touching our selves after shaking hands, handling money, touching door handles and faucets that have been touched by others.
To daddysweetheart, to Hayley, to TraceyAmes and to some women who had sex and got compensated in various ways for it (and to some other women who are my friends):
My logic can be really strange at times, but the bad experiences left me with a feeling that sex was wrong under any and all circumstances -- up to and including creating life. Now if everybody believed that, the human race would be extinct by the end of this century. So I'm better off believing that by myself.
There are some advantages in me applying that kind of rule. I love human companionship, but I'm only going to take it so far. That means I avoid sexually harassing people. That's cruelty in my book, and a lot of people would agree with me. I'm not going to exploit people who aren't grown up yet. (I firmly believe there is no magic date when a person becomes an adult and has the thoughts and sensibilities of one. Some people act and think rationally like adults before they have drivers' licenses. Others will get Alzheimer's disease, and not early onset, before they think and act like grownups, if drugs and reckless behavior doesn't plow them under first.) I also harbor an intense wish to AVOID breaking up happy and loving relationships. There are a few other things I can think of as well.
"But all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Have I spent money for sex that was fun at the time but led to no real reward? Yep. Am I a porn addict? Sadly, yes. Has sex hurt friendships I have had? Yes. Have I coveted somebody's wife or girlfriend? Yes. Have I been a jealous boyfriend? Yes. Have I made irrational decisions because of lust? Do I have a child somewhere whom I don't even know, from a past relationship or an accident with a woman? (I have no idea. I don't think so because I've never been told. But if I did, the mother must really want to keep me from knowing.) There are some things I haven't mentioned to anybody. I thank God that none of those things resulted in permanent harm to anyone else, but I curse myself for having done them. There have even been instances where people have indulged twisted fantasies on me jut because I existed. I won't chronicle them but it's like I was asking for "it" nonetheless.
Put them together and I have a pretty long catalogue of sexual sins that I have committed, and thus I am as guilty as the next person. How can I judge anybody? Some people do some things I wouldn't do and wouldn't ask them to do in my presence. Looking at and reading lesbian porn is a fantasy. Watching two women have sex together, I'd slip out the door and shut it at once. Some people get great pleasure from (consensual) BDSM, it's completely off my radar. Ditto male-male love and contact. I don't want to experience it, don't want to witness it. Some (a lot?) of people enjoy stories where a young woman gets pregnant, usually not within a legal marriage as courts define it (i.e., blood-kin relationships). Lots of people love to became moms and dads in life. So far, I'm not one of them and am scared half to death of it.
I do a lot of asking on how women get pleasure, in a sincere (if possibly misguided) belief that women can please men better if a man and woman trust each other enough to share their likes. I learn the subtleties of pleasing you, you learn the subtleties of pleasing me. That's mostly for filing away in the mind, for a romantic story where the couple has true love in common and can share anything. That sounds difficult in real life and I bet it is. It's compounded by the feeling, which I've stated too many times, that I thought I was in true love and wasn't, and never have been.
Don't attack ANY of my friends on here. I have a long memory and a creative mind. Often the trolls fall into their own sinkhole as I watch, waving goodbye to them with my middle finger. There are other ways to let them know they really messed up and are going to be really sorry, and I can find them. If a friend and I just can't agree, the friendship ends quietly, no fuss, hopefully no rancor. If it lasts, both sides will be glad.
To daddysweetheart, to Hayley, to TraceyAmes and to some women who had sex and got compensated in various ways for it (and to some other women who are my friends):
My logic can be really strange at times, but the bad experiences left me with a feeling that sex was wrong under any and all circumstances -- up to and including creating life. Now if everybody believed that, the human race would be extinct by the end of this century. So I'm better off believing that by myself.
There are some advantages in me applying that kind of rule. I love human companionship, but I'm only going to take it so far. That means I avoid sexually harassing people. That's cruelty in my book, and a lot of people would agree with me. I'm not going to exploit people who aren't grown up yet. (I firmly believe there is no magic date when a person becomes an adult and has the thoughts and sensibilities of one. Some people act and think rationally like adults before they have drivers' licenses. Others will get Alzheimer's disease, and not early onset, before they think and act like grownups, if drugs and reckless behavior doesn't plow them under first.) I also harbor an intense wish to AVOID breaking up happy and loving relationships. There are a few other things I can think of as well.
"But all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Have I spent money for sex that was fun at the time but led to no real reward? Yep. Am I a porn addict? Sadly, yes. Has sex hurt friendships I have had? Yes. Have I coveted somebody's wife or girlfriend? Yes. Have I been a jealous boyfriend? Yes. Have I made irrational decisions because of lust? Do I have a child somewhere whom I don't even know, from a past relationship or an accident with a woman? (I have no idea. I don't think so because I've never been told. But if I did, the mother must really want to keep me from knowing.) There are some things I haven't mentioned to anybody. I thank God that none of those things resulted in permanent harm to anyone else, but I curse myself for having done them. There have even been instances where people have indulged twisted fantasies on me jut because I existed. I won't chronicle them but it's like I was asking for "it" nonetheless.
Put them together and I have a pretty long catalogue of sexual sins that I have committed, and thus I am as guilty as the next person. How can I judge anybody? Some people do some things I wouldn't do and wouldn't ask them to do in my presence. Looking at and reading lesbian porn is a fantasy. Watching two women have sex together, I'd slip out the door and shut it at once. Some people get great pleasure from (consensual) BDSM, it's completely off my radar. Ditto male-male love and contact. I don't want to experience it, don't want to witness it. Some (a lot?) of people enjoy stories where a young woman gets pregnant, usually not within a legal marriage as courts define it (i.e., blood-kin relationships). Lots of people love to became moms and dads in life. So far, I'm not one of them and am scared half to death of it.
I do a lot of asking on how women get pleasure, in a sincere (if possibly misguided) belief that women can please men better if a man and woman trust each other enough to share their likes. I learn the subtleties of pleasing you, you learn the subtleties of pleasing me. That's mostly for filing away in the mind, for a romantic story where the couple has true love in common and can share anything. That sounds difficult in real life and I bet it is. It's compounded by the feeling, which I've stated too many times, that I thought I was in true love and wasn't, and never have been.
Don't attack ANY of my friends on here. I have a long memory and a creative mind. Often the trolls fall into their own sinkhole as I watch, waving goodbye to them with my middle finger. There are other ways to let them know they really messed up and are going to be really sorry, and I can find them. If a friend and I just can't agree, the friendship ends quietly, no fuss, hopefully no rancor. If it lasts, both sides will be glad.
I don't think any of what you did are "sins".
I think you are too hard on yourself.
You don't treat women cruelly ,nor are a pimp.
I hope you find a way to feel less guilty.
Hugs for you..
Margot
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Layafayettemister: how is she doing???
Haven't seen her in a few weeks, gossip on the street is she's jail but no one knows why.
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Socrates Oh you're all heart LM. Karma is a great thing, I'm sure it's treating you kindly.
Still, I feel grateful that we have plastic bills here in Oz. But they can be a real bitch of you have one in your jeans pocket and iron it.
The fact is, all money is dirty. It is probably one of the dirtiest things. Along with car keys and cell phones. Since you know without a doubt the money is dirty when exchanging it, just wash your hands afterwards or tell her you can't do it anymore. But, I think that would be silly. All money is dirty, you just happen to know how this money is dirty. Wash your hands and move on.
money is filthy,food is tainted we can't live without being bombarded by germs .Use sanitizer or wash your hands and be happy you're doing something nice