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My laptop screen broke today and I see a new one in my near future. Heres my question.....if you use a laptop is it a Mac or a PC? What do you like about yours and what dont you like about yours!!

I'll be shopping around but any help from my Lush family would be appreciated!!

Thank you!

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It is true that it really depends on what you plan to use it for. I have a lot of freinds who love their Mac's, but I guess I am the Anti-Apple so I am a PC. Actually it is the only thing PC about me, LOL. And I am pretty happy with it. And I use it for work (some design software packages as well as the usual MS Office stuff) and play.
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My relationship with apple has always been a bitter/sweet one, but only bitter because of the issues moving between operating systems. My heart said Mac, but my brain said PC. My heart always won out.

I adore the way OS X works, it's stable, fast and simple (although that can also be it's downfall too). They last around 6-7 hours using wireless on a single charge. I have never had a virus nor have any other Mac users I know, and all the Mac's I have had have outlived their PC equivalents. They are money in the bank at the end of the day.

If you can afford to go Pro, do it. I bought a new MBP around 6 weeks ago and although most PC's do give you better bang for your buck, the new i7 (i5 standard in the 13") processors have closed that margin slightly. Budget in another few added years onto the standard 1 year warranty and for Office for Mac if you need it. If the budget doesn't allow a brand new Mac or you just plain think they're too expensive, don't be afraid of the refurbished ones on Apples website.

Once you go Mac, you'll never go back.
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PC, macs are to expensive. sad
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Macintosh users know they would NEVER want the complexities of a PC.
Cost aside Macs are so fast and easy to use.
BTW if you are aware of all the viruses out there... never hear of Macs having one problem!
There is some comfort in that.
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Once you go Mac, you'll never go back.

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Once you go Mac, you'll never go back.



Agreeing here...

Yes, they're expensive, but I will always, more than happily, dish out the dosh for them, been using them for many years now and as a result, every time I sit down at a PC my toes practically begin to curl.

Yes, PCs are more complicated and congrats to all of you with the patience for that....but why make something more complicated than it needs to be?

Ease aside...just look at them in comparison to a PC....my little white macbook is absolutely gorgeous, I don't know many people that can say that about their PCs!

** I should add that I've not experienced any battery issues with macs (apart from my mum's ancient mac laptop that I dropped 3 times within a week on stone floor...oops!), my battery rates in about 9 hours (unless I'm doing something particularly taxing for it).

I also use Photoshop quite a lot and find it far, far less glitchy to use on a mac than on a PC but, having said that, my macbook does have additional memory space.
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I agree with the comments about it depending on your needs...but, hypothetically, let's say all you do basically is surf the net (Lush, of course) and perhaps write stories and maybe watch some videos now and then...you really don't need much computing power...

I bought a Toshiba NB-215 netbook back in September 2009 because I was looking for something lightweight and portable...it got stolen Sept last year, and I replaced it with an NB-255...which is basically the same thing...

I happen to really love it...the battery is rated at 8 hours, it has built in wi-fi, so I can hang outside and surf the net...I guess they all have that...and it has built in microphone inputs (not all do) and three USB ports...
Plus, it's only about $300.00...which I think is about $1k less than a Mac...and if you spend and extra $50 or so for the next model up, you can get them in colors and chrome keys...

And I've written every story and poem since Sept. 2009 on a Toshiba netbook...which is about 100 btw, so I'm quite used to it...

Just my...


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Macbook for sure! Anything Mac rather than PC anyday anytime and it ain't even close! Mac! Mac! Mac!
Much less freezes, crashes....etc. etc. Just easier and much more fun to use!
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Macintosh users know they would NEVER want the complexities of a PC.
Cost aside Macs are so fast and easy to use.
BTW if you are aware of all the viruses out there... never hear of Macs having one problem!
There is some comfort in that.


Ummm... You might wanna have a lil read, here.

Apple Macintosh users have become vulnerable to the Flashback Trojan malware. An estimated 600,000 Mac users have been infected


While OS X was relatively void of malware for the last decade...recently malware scares have cropped up that have affected a significant number of Mac systems.

Welcome to Planet PC again, Mr & Miss Apple Snobs!
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I am a PC. Due to some physical disabilities, Mrs Nudie Pants had to go shopping for the lightest laptop she could find. It turned out to be a MacBook Air. For the life of me, I just can never get used to it. I suppose if I only worked on it I would, eventually, but Windoze is so ingrained into my habits that switching back and forth just causes me no end of grief. And yes, there are viruses that make the rounds on the Macs of the world. She just caught one, and had to go buy MacKeeper to help get her back up to speed. The machine does seem to run well, but it's not the end-all and be-all of the computing world.

In the end, weigh your needs against your budget and decide if the coolness of the Apple moniker is worth the extra tribute extorted.
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Mac without questioning it!!! it runs faster, its easier to use, you dont get that much viruses, you have all the goodies of a PC and then some! My personal computer is a Mac and im actually wishing for my work PC to breakdown so i get a good excuse to change it for a Mac smile

it just makes everything better and prettier :)

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Ummm... You might wanna have a lil read, here.

Apple Macintosh users have become vulnerable to the Flashback Trojan malware. An estimated 600,000 Mac users have been infected


While OS X was relatively void of malware for the last decade...recently malware scares have cropped up that have affected a significant number of Mac systems.

Welcome to Planet PC again, Mr & Miss Apple Snobs!


yes one virus in like the past 5 years and they put on their website the way to get it out of your comp in incredibly fast time!

If you have the money, go for the Mac!
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Even if I had all the money in the world, I'd not go for a Mac because I'm just too used to my PC. I've been building PCs for years now and I will admit, when the iMac came out at first I was very impressed, but after using one, I was shocked at how convoluted the OS seemed compared to Windows. Also, once you get past the "ooh shiny" phase, it just becomes another computing device.

There are several more reasons that I don't like Apple as a company, but that would require about 5 pages worth of ranting, so I'll restrain myself. I remember using one of the ancient Macs and I got so pissed off at it that I hurled it across the room, suffice to say, my IT teacher wasn't happy, but that is what Macs make me wanna do, for some strange reason - perhaps it's due to Apple running around unjustly suing everyone for "copyright infringement" (heck, they're even trying to say that they invented Android, which is totally wrong - Android is open source and based upon a Linux kernel and came into being in 2003, whereas iOS is closed source and based upon a Linux-like kernel and came into being in 2007, the difference is subtle, but it is there and of course there is the fact that Android existed before iOS).

And the reason that Macs don't get as many viruses/malware as PCs running Windows is the same reason that PCs running Linux don't: because it's too damned hard to code a virus for a Mac and it would cost more to write the virus than it would be worth.

I love my PC and if it breaks down or a component stops working, all I need to do is buy a new one, slap it in and away it goes, as long as it's compatible with the mobo, there's no problem. With Macs, everything is proprietary, meaning you have to replace like for like, a hassle that I couldn't be bothered with.

Anyway, I fear that this rant has gone on too long, so I shall end it with some final words: for £500 I can build an extremely fast, overclockable PC that will keep going for years, for £500, I couldn't even buy a Mac monitor because Macs are so grossly overpriced and underpowered for their price. For over £1000, I'd expect the thing to run everything I could throw at it and for it it be eye-meltingly fast, but it just ain't. People are too concerned with shiny stuff. "It's so shiny, must be good!" Ain't always the case.
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Mac without questioning it!!! it runs faster, its easier to use, you dont get that much viruses, you have all the goodies of a PC and then some! My personal computer is a Mac and im actually wishing for my work PC to breakdown so i get a good excuse to change it for a Mac smile

it just makes everything better and prettier :)



yes one virus in like the past 5 years and they put on their website the way to get it out of your comp in incredibly fast time!

If you have the money, go for the Mac!


Been running a PC since 1988 & Cyrix 387dx @ 25 mhz with 2 whole Mb of RAM & an 80mb Seagate HDD. DOS 3.0 to what I'm sporting now and never have any of the machines (8 total) been hacked or caught a virus or suffered any intrusions. 'Course, I've built every pc since the 1st one I watched being built for me.

I looked at Apple in 1984...too ferking expensive, so I ended up with an Amiga 500 in 1985 til '88. Too bad they went outta business.

I see my 23 & 25 year old nieces playing around on Macs. But they are toys, so that's understandable.
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Having used both Mac & PC extensively I can honestly say that Macs are far superior in every way. Well worth any extra expense. You will come out ahead with less down time, much fewer headaches and much less frustration. Macs are far more dependable and almost always much faster.
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I use a Toshiba Satellite L455D-S5976. I've had it for the last 4 years I wanna say, and it runs excellent. I've dropped it numerous times, and it's never given me any problems! I use a very basic Norton security virus protection, keep up with the updates, and back my files up on a hard drive. I would highly recommend it.
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i have a desktop and a little notebook shit laptop that i would never recemend to ANYONE. it crashes every 2 seconds and is a total peice of shit. i want mac soo bady sad
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Once you go Mac, you never go back.
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Once you go Mac, you never go back.


Truer words were never spoken. I can't imagine returning to Windows now. Macs are just nicer machines.
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Macs are very sexy to look at. Use a pure language. Preferred by the creative types generally.

Macs are proprietary. Too expensive. Lack of, or no cross platform compatibility.

I know you can run Windows on Mac now, but their own software and systems is for Mac.
They want you to have all Mac products.

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I just made the change this January to a MacBook and it's great. I use it for writing, movies, music, etc. I have heard that if you use a lot of spreadsheets, like Excel, etc. PCs might be better. But I love the track pad/swipe feature Macs have.
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Having used both Mac & PC extensively I can honestly say that Macs are far superior in every way. Well worth any extra expense. You will come out ahead with less down time, much fewer headaches and much less frustration. Macs are far more dependable and almost always much faster.


Do you know what components are actually inside of those Mac's and PC's?

Contents of the top of the line MacBook Pro - identical to what's inside of today's PCs. At least on that webpage above.

Mac even uses the worst performing mechanical hard drives. 5400 rpm across the board. That's so weak, it's lame.

Most PCs come standard with 7200 rpm HDDs anymore. Many are built (and can use SSDs - as can Mac's) but I don't see any solid state drives being offered in those super expensive laptops. *check that - they're offered at VERY expensive pricing. Apple ALWAYS charges 300% more for the same equipment I can buy and install in a laptop or desktop PC running Windows or Linux.

Intel CPUs have been used in Macs for the last few years. Guess what else uses those. Yep... personal computers. Macs also use the bottom of the line Intel and/or AMD graphics chips in their super expensive laptops.

I guarantee my $1600 Windows7 Professional HP laptop blows your ahem... $2500 Mac laptop... right out of the proverbial water. And I have $1000 left over to get me some hookers & blow.

Next!
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Come'on ya'll... Don't you know what is inside those overpriced, warmed over PC's (except for the Apple logo and MacIntosh bling/name)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC (prior to 2006) Apple/MacIntosh was using IBM's RISC platform CPU chips. PC's have always used x86 architecture, main players have been Intel & AMD (CPU manufacturers).

In 2005, Apple announced that they were going to drop the very expensive RISC CPUs and migrate over to using all Intel based CPUs in the future. In 2006, they did. Everything inside your laptops and desktops - WAS BUILT FOR pc's. LMAO.

So... Apple gave up the ghost and decided to join PCs and use the very same inside components that PCs had been using since the mid to late 1980s.

The same stuff that works inside your MacIntosh is available and used inside my PC and millions of PCs around the world. The only thing different anymore ... is the software/operating systems.

And that isn't worth an extra thousand bucks to donate to the Steve Jobs Memorial - at least not to me. But you true believers go ahead and pretend the MacIntosh is the end all be all.
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A little outdated, but you get the picture.

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Come'on ya'll... Don't you know what is inside those overpriced, warmed over PC's (except for the Apple logo and MacIntosh bling/name)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC (prior to 2006) Apple/MacIntosh was using IBM's RISC platform CPU chips. PC's have always used x86 architecture, main players have been Intel & AMD (CPU manufacturers).

In 2005, Apple announced that they were going to drop the very expensive RISC CPUs and migrate over to using all Intel based CPUs in the future. In 2006, they did. Everything inside your laptops and desktops - WAS BUILT FOR pc's. LMAO.

So... Apple gave up the ghost and decided to join PCs and use the very same inside components that PCs had been using since the mid to late 1980s.

The same stuff that works inside your MacIntosh is available and used inside my PC and millions of PCs around the world. The only thing different anymore ... is the software/operating systems.

And that isn't worth an extra thousand bucks to donate to the Steve Jobs Memorial - at least not to me. But you true believers go ahead and pretend the MacIntosh is the end all be all.


Not of what you said changes the fact that PCs are ugly, clunky, come loaded with a bunch of bullshit pop up crap, freeze, get viruses and have a short ass life span. I guess if you are up to all kinds of shenanigans with weird software that only PCs run then yeah go get yourself one of those PC clunkers. I don't advice doing that other weird shit though, probably not life enhancing.
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Not of what you said changes the fact that PCs are ugly, clunky, come loaded with a bunch of bullshit pop up crap, freeze, get viruses and have a short ass life span. I guess if you are up to all kinds of shenanigans with weird software that only PCs run then yeah go get yourself one of those PC clunkers. I don't advice doing that other weird shit though, probably not life enhancing.


Advice = advise.

I think the gist of it is that you are paying for exactly the same hardware MF, although the software and whatever else is different, works a lot better on a mac. They are prettier too.
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Not of what you said changes the fact that PCs are ugly, clunky, come loaded with a bunch of bullshit pop up crap, freeze, get viruses and have a short ass life span. I guess if you are up to all kinds of shenanigans with weird software that only PCs run then yeah go get yourself one of those PC clunkers. I don't advice doing that other weird shit though, probably not life enhancing.


Really? What do you look at (what's on the LED screen in 32 million colors) or the shiny keypad buttons, reflective plastic outer package (or inside the desktops at the $150 neon glowing tube lighting)? Do you buy the Mac/Apple for the aged and outdated Apple Logo (because it glows all pretty)? What's the attraction? I could care less really what my desktop pc looks like, or what the stuff inside it looks like - I only care what my eyes focus on... on those gorgeous 23" LED screen(s).

Weird software? What the hell have you been seeing that I've not been seeing? It's pretty straightforward stuff, Jack.

Look, I get it. Apple ingratiated themselves with the school systems of America over 25 years ago, basically giving apple computers to 80% of the schools in this land (as an advertising promo to get our youth hooked on using extremely expensive, clunky shit).

It's the 1st and only computing solution most people under the age of 35 (today) ever experienced.

In 1987-88...it was a toss up as to which platform might become king. By 2006 and the roll-out of Windows 7 OS as well as the modern Intel & AMD Quad core processors (and the fact that MacIntosh began purchasing & installing those CPUs inside their chassis) it's been game over.

Your Apple machines became PCs. If you're competent enough to type on a keyboard, you could become (with a little extra effort) competent enough to swap out RAM memory chips, a hard drive, even a video graphics card.

It's so easy even a cave girl can do it, anymore.

Apple/MacIntosh simply has their 30 yr groomed market believing that they have magical electronics inside of their equipment which can only be service by their only specially trained super smart geeks.

Jack, if you want to point blame for popups, viruses, malware and assorted other software & OS attacking crap - point it at those (Um, you folks who don't know how to prevent that shit from attacking your equipment) and not at the equipment manufacturers.

This argument is similar to debating which Aston Martin model is better or which Volkswagen model is better. We're not arguing apples to oranges here.

Buy a Mac equipped with the same hardware as any PC which 'you can design and have someone build for you' - and you'll pay 25% to 75% more for your Mac. And the top shelf PC's of today... Literally run fucking circles around MacIntosh anything.

I don't have the problems you Mac users accuse PCs of experiencing. So, you're just making up fiction or buying into the slick Apple advertising brainwashing.
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They are prettier too.



$3500

They sort of look the same, to me.


$2200
(longer warranty - same guts - same screen - bigger keyboard/more functionality, etc...)



That is a cute little two generation old glowing Apple logo though.
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Advice = advise.

I think the gist of it is that you are paying for exactly the same hardware MF, although the software and whatever else is different, works a lot better on a mac. They are prettier too.


Yes, most of my forum posts have mistakes strewn about like that... I never reread them unless I go back to the thread These mistakes happen because I post a lot from my Iphone (it can handle the full website, no mobile needed... Thank you Mr. Jobs) But it does make it easier to make mistakes on the smaller screen.

I agree with the rest. What good is it having the same hardware if it doesn't work right? It's like having two cars with the same engine except all the stuff in one car, like the transmission and electrical components, sucking major ass.

I will elaborate on this further in response to my favorite lush PC lover's post.
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Really? What do you look at (what's on the LED screen in 32 million colors) or the shiny keypad buttons, reflective plastic outer package (or inside the desktops at the $150 neon glowing tube lighting)? Do you buy the Mac/Apple for the aged and outdated Apple Logo (because it glows all pretty)? What's the attraction? I could care less really what my desktop pc looks like, or what the stuff inside it looks like - I only care what my eyes focus on... on those gorgeous 23" LED screen(s).


Name a logo you consider more up to date and a better example of design than the Apple logo. Yes the design of apple products sets them apart. When the insides are the same as you say... Why not make the outside pretty. Come on, I know you know that it's what's inside that counts but when the outside is pretty too doesn't it make it better? Like a woman or man. You like the pretty girls with a heart of gold too right?

Weird software? What the hell have you been seeing that I've not been seeing? It's pretty straightforward stuff, Jack.


There is nothing intuitive about it. It's designed poorly and installing other programs to make your existing PC programs work right is a hassle, time consuming, frustrating and wasteful. I have seen people that have never used a computer click around a mac and actually realize computers aren't this annoying confusing thing that only geeks understand.

Look, I get it. Apple ingratiated themselves with the school systems of America over 25 years ago, basically giving apple computers to 80% of the schools in this land (as an advertising promo to get our youth hooked on using extremely expensive, clunky shit).


My school had a lab of about 30 PCs and two of those original multicolored iMacs. Yes, there was a signup sheet to use the macs because they were fast and everything worked. They burned your CD and it worked at home. Didn't get corrupted or spit out by the PC mid burn. I learned on PC's and Macs. When I was a kid I had a lame ass compaq. Then I got a mac.

It's the 1st and only computing solution most people under the age of 35 (today) ever experienced.


You got a source on that? Come on man... That's a fallacy.

In 1987-88...it was a toss up as to which platform might become king. By 2006 and the roll-out of Windows 7 OS as well as the modern Intel & AMD Quad core processors (and the fact that MacIntosh began purchasing & installing those CPUs inside their chassis) it's been game over.


So why didn't PCs keep up? If they had everything Apple had at it's disposal then why did they let Apple kick their ass?

Your Apple machines became PCs. If you're competent enough to type on a keyboard, you could become (with a little extra effort) competent enough to swap out RAM memory chips, a hard drive, even a video graphics card.

It's so easy even a cave girl can do it, anymore.

Apple/MacIntosh simply has their 30 yr groomed market believing that they have magical electronics inside of their equipment which can only be service by their only specially trained super smart geeks.

Jack, if you want to point blame for popups, viruses, malware and assorted other software & OS attacking crap - point it at those (Um, you folks who don't know how to prevent that shit from attacking your equipment) and not at the equipment manufacturers.


In this passage by wellmademale lies the reason why an Apple computer is better than a PC. The reason Apple is successful with their magical computers is because instead of people focusing on how to "fix" a brand new computer they can take their Apple out of the box and focus on productivity... NOT trouble shooting.

Buy a Mac equipped with the same hardware as any PC which 'you can design and have someone build for you' - and you'll pay 25% to 75% more for your Mac. And the top shelf PC's of today... Literally run fucking circles around MacIntosh anything.


I still use this iMac to run apple classic for certain design programs that have a couple features the newer ones don't.



Do you know how old this machine is? It is still Tip top. Never has it had a problem. I bought it new out the box and have never fucked with it. Do you have a PC that old that you've never put any extra money into or TIME un-fucking it up. Has it never frozen up on you or corrupted an important file or any file like my sexy little iMac? I doubt it.

I don't have the problems you Mac users accuse PCs of experiencing. So, you're just making up fiction or buying into the slick Apple advertising brainwashing.


This man tried to convince us that we are all alien hybrids once. And yes, human do seem to be different than any other species on earth and our relationship with earth is more like a virus' relationship with a body but this man would have us wearing tin foil hats in his basement as he pulls up facts on his big grey box of a PC.