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Easy, you had me blocked as well, but still you respond to one of my posts


Well clearly you are mistaken. I do not have you blocked and I see you nonsense posts quite often. I just choose to not respond to you very often because usually someone else has done so in a rather intelligent and/or clever way.
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Well clearly you are mistaken. I do not have you blocked and I see you nonsense posts quite often. I just choose to not respond to you very often because usually someone else has done so in a rather intelligent and/or clever way.


OK, had me blocked then perhaps, or whatever setting it was to ensure you would have the last word in a DM conversation


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OK, had me blocked then perhaps, or whatever setting it was to ensure you would have the last word in a DM conversation


Oh... did poor Noll not get to have the last word? Seriously... let it go.
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Oh... did poor Noll not get to have the last word? Seriously... let it go.


If by 'let it go' you mean prevent one's conversation partner in a dialogue from responding, then no, I would never 'let it go'. I can decide whether or not to let things go for myself, as I'd assume others can too, without the need to impose that decision on the other.


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If by 'let it go' you mean prevent one's conversation partner in a dialogue from responding, then no, I would never 'let it go'. I can decide whether or not to let things go for myself, as I'd assume others can too, without the need to impose that decision on the other.


And clearly you can't let things go which is truly depressing. So often you can read as an intelligent person but sadly you hold grudges.

Now, please drop this nonsense and return to the topic... and on that note... how much longer before Donald Trump is facing impeachment? Or will he change (one can only hope.)
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And clearly you can't let things go which is truly depressing.


If it's so depressing, then why do you keep responding?


As for the topic of this thread: there are many Trump threads here that all started off about specific aspects of his presidency, but they all turned in more or less the same thread, with the same people posting the same kind of comments/pics in all of them.


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As for the topic of this thread: there are many Trump threads here that all started off about specific aspects of his presidency, but they all turned in more or less the same thread, with the same people posting the same kind of comments/pics in all of them.


Soooooo true...
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'We see you': Black poets challenge Trump

Poets and poetry slam hosts from Busboys and Poets in Washington, DC share their lyrical reflections on the Trump presidency.
The poets are Charity Blackwell, Drew Anderson, 2Deep the Poetess and Slli'm Williams.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38986348

Love this.
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Trump rescinds transgender bathroom rules from Obama era

Donald Trump's government has revoked guidance to US public schools that allowed transgender students to use toilets matching their gender identity.

The guidance, issued by his predecessor Barack Obama, had been hailed by as a victory for transgender rights.

Article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39047883


What a fucking cocktrumpet.
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There's a stupidly easy way to get around the whole "designated transgender" washroom thing--when building new schools or remodelling old schools, include at least one "family" or "ADA accessible" washroom. These are washrooms that are very much a thing in other public spaces.

It's not rocket science, and it's not difficult or expensive to add to a school's design. For example, when the high school now attended by my oldest son was demolished, the new construction plans included four of these type of washrooms. Anyone of any sex can use them, and they are not designated as "transgender friendly" washrooms; they're just washrooms. So unless Trump decides that single-occupant restrooms are something he needs to address, then we're good.
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There's a stupidly easy way to get around the whole "designated transgender" washroom thing--when building new schools or remodelling old schools, include at least one "family" or "ADA accessible" washroom. These are washrooms that are very much a thing in other public spaces.

It's not rocket science, and it's not difficult or expensive to add to a school's design. For example, when the high school now attended by my oldest son was demolished, the new construction plans included four of these type of washrooms. Anyone of any sex can use them, and they are not designated as "transgender friendly" washrooms; they're just washrooms. So unless Trump decides that single-occupant restrooms are something he needs to address, then we're good.

This is not a solution, but merely a work-around, a band-aid. And it may help in facilities that are being built or renovated, but those are just a few in comparison to the existing facilities, that will remain as they are. In the big picture, it's no more than a drop in the ocean.

The only real solution, is that society accepts, that being male or female, the gender that someone identifies with, and the gender someone is attracted to, aren't determined by genetics and the genitals someone was born with. And until that happens, the rights of transgenders, gays, bis and of anyone else who doesn't conform to their genetically assigned gender need to be actively protected, for instance by directives like the one Trump just revoked.
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... how much longer before Donald Trump is facing impeachment? Or will he change (one can only hope.)


Good question. We have actually got a sweepstake going on in the office on how long he will remain President. The closest one to his term office ending takes the pot. I am banking on two and half years.
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I'm not that familiar with US law but I was wondering what would it take for a president to be impeached ? What are the grounds for impeachment and if this were to happen, what follows ? Is there another election or does the VP takeover and complete the turn ?
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Good question. We have actually got a sweepstake going on in the office on how long he will remain President. The closest one to his term office ending takes the pot. I am banking on two and half years.


That's awesome!!! How can I get in on that pool? Actually, we need one to start at my work. Thanks for the great idea.
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I'm not that familiar with US law but I was wondering what would it take for a president to be impeached ? What are the grounds for impeachment and if this were to happen, what follows ? Is there another election or does the VP takeover and complete the turn ?


The House of Representatives impeaches the President. I believe the Constitution says something to the effect, "high crimes", although it's not defined. It's going to be determined by the House of Representatives whether or not the President is impeached by a majority vote.

Impeachment is not removal from office. It is a referral to the US Senate to hold a trial. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is the judge and the Senate actually holds a trial, putting forth the evidence, then it takes a 2/3rd majority vote in the Senate to convict the President and remove him/her from office. President Clinton was actually impeached by the House in the 1990's for lying to a federal court, but was not removed from office by the Senate. There has never been a Presiden actually removed from office through impeachment.

If the Presidency is vacated, either by impeachment, death or the 25th Amendment (inability of the President to perform his duties), the vice-president assumes the presidency. If both the President and vice president are simultaneously removed from office, the Speaker of the House of Representatives assumes the presidency. There is a specific chain of assumption identified in the Constitution if a disaster strikes, removing several members simultaneously, which goes down through the President's cabinet. There is not a special election under any circumtances.

Hopefully, I didn't mess this up with minutae details, but in general what I said here is correct.
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I'm not that familiar with US law but I was wondering what would it take for a president to be impeached ? What are the grounds for impeachment and if this were to happen, what follows ? Is there another election or does the VP takeover and complete the turn ?


The House of Representatives impeaches the President. I believe the Constitution says something to the effect, "high crimes", although it's not defined. It's going to be determined by the House of Representatives whether or not the President is impeached by a majority vote.

Impeachment is not removal from office. It is a referral to the US Senate to hold a trial. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is the judge and the Senate actually holds a trial, putting forth the evidence, then it takes a 2/3rd majority vote in the Senate to convict the President and remove him/her from office. President Clinton was actually impeached by the House in the 1990's for lying to a federal court, but was not removed from office by the Senate. There has never been a Presiden actually removed from office through impeachment.

If the Presidency is vacated, either by impeachment, death or the 25th Amendment (inability of the President to perform his duties), the vice-president assumes the presidency. If both the President and vice president are simultaneously removed from office, the Speaker of the House of Representatives assumes the presidency. There is a specific chain of assumption identified in the Constitution if a disaster strikes, removing several members simultaneously, which goes down through the President's cabinet. There is not a special election under any circumtances.

Hopefully, I didn't mess this up with minutae details, but in general what I said here is correct.
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President Clinton was impeached for lying to a grand jury and obstruction of justice, but was acquitted of the charges in the Senate 50 votes to acquit and 45 to convict. As I said, it takes 2/3rd to convict - currently 67 votes.
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This is not a solution, but merely a work-around, a band-aid. And it may help in facilities that are being built or renovated, but those are just a few in comparison to the existing facilities, that will remain as they are. In the big picture, it's no more than a drop in the ocean.

The only real solution, is that society accepts, that being male or female, the gender that someone identifies with, and the gender someone is attracted to, aren't determined by genetics and the genitals someone was born with. And until that happens, the rights of transgenders, gays, bis and of anyone else who doesn't conform to their genetically assigned gender need to be actively protected, for instance by directives like the one Trump just revoked.


Did I mention anywhere that Trump's meddling is unacceptable? No, I didn't. I really should have. It is unacceptable. Period, full stop.

All I suggested was a relatively simple way for schools--and because Trump's order specifically addressed public schools, I left other public facilities unmentioned--to avoid coming under the scope of the order by simply dropping the reference to the washroom being specifically designated for transgender students. I do apologise if you took my comment to mean, somehow, that I do not understand that gender identity can differ from one's physiognomy.

There will never be a widespread, wholesale acceptance of transgender, gay, lesbian, or bisexual individuals, because some people just cannot wrap their brains around the idea that sometimes, one's gender identity or sexual orientation is in opposition to what society perceives as "real" or acceptable. To say that good cannot be done whilst bad laws are in place, to dismiss those acts of good as a "drop in the bucket", is both foolish and insulting. Are you arguing that schools shouldn't be actively looking for work-arounds? That's pretty much my takeaway from your comment--that a raw, open, bleeding wound is somehow better than a "band-aid".

I'm not even sure why you took offence to my suggestion. It's worked fine in my son's HS, it's worked fine in thousands of other public schools across the United States. The only thing missing from the doors is the specific designation of the washroom(s) being meant for transgender students. Schools not in the process of being built or renovated can, and have, still renovated existing facilities to accommodate at least one "gender neutral" washroom.

As far as the rights of transgender, gay, lesbian, or bisexual individuals needing to be actively protected, where exactly did I say that these individuals do not need active protection? Where did I say that as a heterosexual female, I don't think that these individuals require my concern or protection? Oh, that's right. I didn't say either of those things, because I fully fucking wholesale believe that an attack on the rights of one is an attack on the rights of all.

I offered a pragmatic solution to a hopefully temporary problem, and you presume to attack me for offering this solution? Really?
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Did I mention anywhere that Trump's meddling is unacceptable? No, I didn't. I really should have. It is unacceptable. Period, full stop.

All I suggested was a relatively simple way for schools--and because Trump's order specifically addressed public schools, I left other public facilities unmentioned--to avoid coming under the scope of the order by simply dropping the reference to the washroom being specifically designated for transgender students. I do apologise if you took my comment to mean, somehow, that I do not understand that gender identity can differ from one's physiognomy.

There will never be a widespread, wholesale acceptance of transgender, gay, lesbian, or bisexual individuals, because some people just cannot wrap their brains around the idea that sometimes, one's gender identity or sexual orientation is in opposition to what society perceives as "real" or acceptable. To say that good cannot be done whilst bad laws are in place, to dismiss those acts of good as a "drop in the bucket", is both foolish and insulting. Are you arguing that schools shouldn't be actively looking for work-arounds? That's pretty much my takeaway from your comment--that a raw, open, bleeding wound is somehow better than a "band-aid".

I'm not even sure why you took offence to my suggestion. It's worked fine in my son's HS, it's worked fine in thousands of other public schools across the United States. The only thing missing from the doors is the specific designation of the washroom(s) being meant for transgender students. Schools not in the process of being built or renovated can, and have, still renovated existing facilities to accommodate at least one "gender neutral" washroom.

As far as the rights of transgender, gay, lesbian, or bisexual individuals needing to be actively protected, where exactly did I say that these individuals do not need active protection? Where did I say that as a heterosexual female, I don't think that these individuals require my concern or protection? Oh, that's right. I didn't say either of those things, because I fully fucking wholesale believe that an attack on the rights of one is an attack on the rights of all.

I offered a pragmatic solution to a hopefully temporary problem, and you presume to attack me for offering this solution? Really?


I apologise if I worded my response wrong. I didn't take offence, and I didn't say it was bad to seek a way around bad legislation. I merely said it doesn't solve the problem that law and society discriminate against transgenders. I agree that changing that in society is virtually impossible, but it's not impossible to abolish discriminating laws and replace them with laws that prohibit such discrimination. It worked with race and religion, it could and should be the same for sexual orientation and gender identity.

As for the schools, the ones that do create gender neutral facilities would probably allow transgenders to use the bathroom of their choice anyway, if laws didn't prohibit that. They are the ones, that recognise the rights of transgenders well enough, to be willing to work around discriminating legislation.

I just think, that it isn't enough. For every school that does create gender neutral facilities, there is one, that doesn't and won't. Some because they just don't have the possibility to create an extra bathroom or to make one gender neutral, and many others because, with their preferred holy book in hand they say, being transgender or gay is an unnatural and unacceptable mental disorder, which they don't want to facilitate.

I didn't say, or mean to imply, anything about your thoughts on protecting LGBT indiviuals. I just gave my opinion on the subject, nothing more, nothing less.
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The House of Representatives impeaches the President. I believe the Constitution says something to the effect, "high crimes", although it's not defined. It's going to be determined by the House of Representatives whether or not the President is impeached by a majority vote.

Impeachment is not removal from office. It is a referral to the US Senate to hold a trial. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is the judge and the Senate actually holds a trial, putting forth the evidence, then it takes a 2/3rd majority vote in the Senate to convict the President and remove him/her from office. President Clinton was actually impeached by the House in the 1990's for lying to a federal court, but was not removed from office by the Senate. There has never been a Presiden actually removed from office through impeachment.

If the Presidency is vacated, either by impeachment, death or the 25th Amendment (inability of the President to perform his duties), the vice-president assumes the presidency. If both the President and vice president are simultaneously removed from office, the Speaker of the House of Representatives assumes the presidency. There is a specific chain of assumption identified in the Constitution if a disaster strikes, removing several members simultaneously, which goes down through the President's cabinet. There is not a special election under any circumtances.

Hopefully, I didn't mess this up with minutae details, but in general what I said here is correct.



Thanks for clearing that up for me - kinda makes you think that whatever you think of Trump, it may be best if he stays where he is. It seems he is under the microscope like no other President in the past and any crackpot policies that he tries to implement can be quickly headed off, as was the case with his immigration ban.
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Thank you for saying that, but really, we can't just impeach him, so what's left? Believe me, our POTUS is an elected official, but we can't just 'un'elect him. All we can do now is give him a chance. If he fucks up bad enough (placing bets, I'd rather see Pence in the drivers seat...still don't like Hillary :-) ) then we can impeach him. Time will tell, but until then, pray sister, pray. I know the rest of the world is looking at us and wondering why we voted a clown into office. xx


Actually, the house can impeach him for any number of reasons, including such things as conduct unbecoming, unfitness for office, abuse of power and almost any reason they see fit. and give him a chance?? has he shown even one example, given us any evidence whatsoever that he will change? no, he continues spewing his alternate facts and giving misleading statements. he is every bit as arrogant as he was on the day he took office. he is more concerned with insignificant details like how many people were at his inauguration, than he is with running the country. he has stated he does not need daily briefings, apparently because he knows more than the experts. this is a grown man holding the highest office of one of the most powerful countries on the planet, and he gets his updates from fox news, and tweets when someone publishes an unflattering photo of him, or says something about him that he doesn't like. and finally, you would like pence better?? as a lesbian women, you should be even more scared of him than trump. you might want to read up on his LGBQT policies.