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LarsKaiden
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Quote by Sofietouchu


GW, I did not shoot down your idea .... I merely said a bit overboard and clearly a take away from anyone ( NEW ) who is not out to cause a problem and wreak ( wreck ) havoc .... wanting to join this site for the reading alone.

If putting my 2 cents in before others reacted for a time flourish period, it is my assumption .... you want only of Aye responses and the nays can go someplace warm in dwell ( useless in your eyes for even responding ).

I do have faith in the system, its not blind .... it takes of time, it takes of getting the right info before making a judgment call .... the ducks must be in a row before taking them down. Usually after the dust clears .... one knows exactly what has happen, those claiming of not knowing are the truly blind.

I took the time to think it through with my 1st response and after reading the comments ( everyone's ) clearly understandable with the guarding of ones sandbox a want, and need to a certain extent but even ones own sandbox is need of cleaning too.

The alternative with a solution: Copy all of threat, Report those of havoc, Block them.

Of learn .... yes, clearly its about you and wants for agreeable users need only apply of use .... good luck.

Me: Enjoying my time here on Lush .... stuff to read, people to converse with, etc.

Have a nice day .... its Sunday, purple pink sock day too.



I'm very sorry. I overreacted.
weekender
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Quote by GirlyWorld


I'm not talking about a caste system. It's simply a cooling-off period for new members. You can read all the stories and forums, but you need to show some presence before you can fully participate in everything.


Have you been here long enough? Huuuummmmm or... for that matter, have I!
Tranquil
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It took me a little while from joining to sharing. in that time i found my footing in the forums, i learnt fast to choose my friends carefully and there was a lot of help and respect given. I don't think i could have the confidence here today if I had joined under the full scope of the terms you set out. Not saying they aren't all bad. It would be so much easier if the world didn't allow email accounts to be set up so easily, but i think that is one miracle that can not be.
trinket
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Quote by sprite


quite honestly, if i'd have joined under this system, i would have lost interest and gone elsewhere. the idea is to actually make Lush grow as a site, not chase people off in droves.


I also made another post after the one you quoted Sprite, saying that 3 months WAS too long.

Buz I'm not sure about anyone else but I got your message after your first post. .

Anyway it's a great site as it is, glad I'm not one of the people having to deal with some of the newbies (or oldies) ;).
BelleFleure
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Quote by GirlyWorld
a) You have to have completed a certain number of fields in your profile to be able to a) post in the forum, b) enter the chat rooms, c) rate stories, d) etc.
b) You have to have accumulated at least X number of friends before you can carry out task Y.


I've been in this lovely place over a year. I read a bit, write a bit, lurk a bit and have never posted in the forum until now. I have only completed a few rudimentary profile fields and have ten friends. Under the proposed restrictions, I presume I'd have been unable to answer your post? Well, perhaps one of the credibility triggers might be to have had something published, so I may have been alright. But some people are predominantly consumers. They read stories, enjoy the discussions, and then one day a forum post or story appears that galvanises them into action. They feel they just HAVE to post, write or rate because the content moves them in some way. So they excitedly register, go to participate, and the first thing they get back? "Sorry, you can't do that: you're too new. Jump through hoops X, Y and Z and we'll think about letting you play."

For legitimate users, that takes out all the impetus and drive of deciding to be part of the site. I'd be thinking, "Too new?! I've been reading stuff here for aaaages," and would be put off.

For potentially unscrupulous users, posing a set of challenges before being able to contribute might be just that: a challenge! Filling in some profile fields and collecting oodles of friends by bombarding existing users with requests is easy. There are probably many users here who see more friends = better, so they'll accept pretty much anyone. I don't have the numbers, it's just a hunch.

Quote by GirlyWorld
The Account Credibility system... would be a 'behind the scenes' mechanism to allow new members progressive access to the site's features.


That's fine in principle, and it might work to some degree. But you should still make it clear what the rules are so you set the expectations of the people who want to become part of the community. By declaring such rules you disclose the mechanism(s) to bypass them and risk discouraging well-intentioned members from joining. It's a tightrope. Some trolls might well be lazy, but I fear people intent on mischief won't be deterred, and may well be attracted by the challenge. These are the types of people admins will spend a large portion of their precious time cleaning up after anyway.

Unsociable people are a scourge that need to be dealt with appropriately, and sadly I don't know the best way to achieve that. But I suspect raising the height of the walls to the garden of Eden will not significantly reduce the number of snakes that slither through the gates.
Dani
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Quote by GirlyWorld


I'm very sorry. I overreacted.


This seems to be a habit of yours within this thread towards anyone with the gall to question/disagree with you.

If your 'my thread, my sandbox' statement is any illusion to your mentality, then it's no wonder your idea has raised this number of questions.

To put it frankly, I don't like your attitude regarding how you treat people raising legitimate concerns. Debating is one thing. Belittling people for not bending to your will is quite another.

I'm not saying you have to agree with everyone, or anyone or that matter. But if you can't do so without coming down on the person for having the gall to have an opinion, then I will personally shut down your sandbox (because I can do that).

This is a forum, where discussions take place. Their opinions and ideas are just as relevant as yours. Despite the fact that this is your thread sharing your idea(s) for the site, this is not your barrel of fish, and you do not hold the loaded gun in this scenario.

No one is here to be your rubber stamp, and they do not deserve what you've dished out to them thus far simply for disagreeing with you.

Please keep that in mind going forward.

Side note: In the future, perhaps you'll be better off contacting admin directly if you don't like being disagreed with on a large scale...or until you develop a thicker skin. Whichever comes first.

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sprite
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Quote by trinket


I also made another post after the one you quoted Sprite, saying that 3 months WAS too long.

Buz I'm not sure about anyone else but I got your message after your first post. .

Anyway it's a great site as it is, glad I'm not one of the people having to deal with some of the newbies (or oldies) ;).










btw, under your rules, since you just re-joined, you wouldn't be able to post here for another couple of months. something to think about. smile

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LarsKaiden
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I already apologized. Why threaten me? Because you can?

I made a suggestion that I was (and am) passionate about. All I ask is that it be taken into consideration.

Thanks,

GW.
LarsKaiden
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I already apologized. Why threaten me? Because you can?

I made a suggestion that I was (and am) passionate about. All I ask is that it be taken into consideration.

Thanks,

GW.
sprite
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Quote by GirlyWorld
I already apologized. Why threaten me? Because you can?

I made a suggestion that I was (and am) passionate about. All I ask is that it be taken into consideration.

Thanks,

GW.


wasn't a threat, actually, just some thoughtful advice on getting along. we do that here from time to time. that's how we roll. smile

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
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Quote by GirlyWorld
I already apologized. Why threaten me? Because you can?

I made a suggestion that I was (and am) passionate about. All I ask is that it be taken into consideration.

Thanks,

GW.


To Sofie, you did.

No one has threatened you.
Guest
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Quote by sprite


wasn't a threat, actually, just some thoughtful advice on getting along. we do that here from time to time. that's how we roll. smile


Yay.. I like how the mods roll .. =d>





Too cute not to share..
Dani
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Quote by GirlyWorld
I already apologized. Why threaten me? Because you can?

I made a suggestion that I was (and am) passionate about. All I ask is that it be taken into consideration.

Thanks,

GW.


People took your suggestion into consideration, and were equally passionate about what they had to say. But I saw no consideration on your part. I appreciate and respect your passion in regards to this site, but don't use it as an excuse.


Also, I'm not the type to make threats.

Never have been, I've got a feeling I never will be.

Take that as you wish, and keep it classy.

Please and thanks.

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LarsKaiden
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Quote by Dani


I'm not the type to make threats.

Never have been, I've got a feeling I never will be.

Take that as you wish, and keep it classy.

Please and thanks.


You said "But if you can't do so without coming down on the person for having the gall to have an opinion, then I will personally shut down your sandbox (because I can do that)."

To me, that is a threat.
Dani
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Quote by GirlyWorld
I already apologized. Why threaten me? Because you can?

I made a suggestion that I was (and am) passionate about. All I ask is that it be taken into consideration.

Thanks,

GW.



I'm not the type to make threats.

Never have been, I've got a feeling I never will be.

Take that as you wish, and keep it classy.

Please and thanks.

***It seems in my haste to delete my double post, I deleted your response that went along with it. Once a post has been deleted, all subsequent posts that quote it disappear as well, so my apologies for that...but I was able to catch your statement in my timeline:

Quote by GirlyWorld
You said "But if you can't do so without coming down on the person for having the gall to have an opinion, then I will personally shut down your sandbox (because I can do that)."

To me, that is a threat.


That was not a threat. It's my promise to you if you continue down this path of belittling anyone for having something to say.

You stop berating, I don't shut down this thread. It's quite simple, and totally up to you.

EDIT: Also, you claim to be passionate about your suggestion and want others to show consideration. However, everyone showed consideration and gave helpful input that I'm sure they're equally passionate about. But where was your consideration?

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LarsKaiden
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I'm happy that some people provided insightful feedback, and I look forward to more.
MrNudiePants
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Quote by Buz
How about requiring fingerprints, DNA, an anal probe, an NSA background check, and a letter of authenticity from Interpol? And toss in your credit score.



Does this place always come back to figging?



FWIW: Is there really such a problem with "troublemakers"
trinket
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Quote by sprite


btw, under your rules, since you just re-joined, you wouldn't be able to post here for another couple of months. something to think about. smile



Sprite, as I already pointed out to you I made another post after the one you are quoting me on. If you take a look, I acknowledged three months was a "silly idea" and changed it to one month. I do realise the rule would apply to me. Why wouldn't it? If I had to wait any amount of time it would have kept me out of trouble on the forums already wouldn't it?
weekender
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Quote by MrNudiePants

FWIW: Is there really such a problem with "troublemakers"



Not Really.... There are rules and protocol to follow if someone becomes a brat.... a pest.... or worse...LOL I have had some of the best costumer services during my visits here! Yes.... I have been advised by more then one person that my flight of mind and playful ways were not liked ! Shake hands as best can.... and move on...
If each person took the time to read the rules and then follow as best can, even in the "heat of the moment" (LOL ) most every visit can be fun and fulfilling!
And the greatest part.... if a person really has a "kink" that is scary to many, he or she can open a private chat room for their own pleasures and discomforts... enter at own risk....
All take care and take care of all! Welcome to Lushville!

P.SS This post is best read with rose colored glasses!
Guest
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One must have a mind to decide their own...its about logic and common sense. Lush does what it can...it cant think for a person. That is up to the individual. The block and ignore buttons work quite well. Also, don't flash email addresses around. The mind works quite nicely if one has the capabilities to plug into it.
jolander055
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Quote by GirlyWorld
I would like to suggest creating an Account Credibility system on Lush, whereby new members are only allowed to perform certain tasks once they have achieved a certain status on the site. This would put the brakes on people creating fake accounts with the intent to be disruptive. It would seem that today it is possible to sign up with a new account, be an ass and disappear. I realize that most of the perpetrators will be caught out at some point down the line, but why not discourage the buggers before they are given the chance to cause problems in the first place? My feeling is that this could a) avoid discomfort to existing site members, and b) reduce the amount of clean-up required after the fact.

The way the Account Credibility system would work would be quite simple:

a) You have to have completed a certain number of fields in your profile to be able to a) post in the forum, b) enter the chat rooms, c) rate stories, d) etc.
b) You have to have accumulated at least X number of friends before you can carry out task Y.
c) You have to have accumulated certain badges before you are entitled to certain privileges.
d) Any and all combinations of the above.

The Account Credibility system does not need to be called as such publicly. It would be a 'behind the scenes' mechanism to allow new members progressive access to the site's features.

Besides, if you don't like the term Account Credibility, call it Account Entitlement, or Asshole Prevention. smile

All those in favour say Aye!

GW.



The idea itself seems good but the way it would work i dont agree with. Mainly because with those suggestions someone such as me woyld not be able to do much. I dont have many badges i dont have many friends in my friends list etc. So someone genuine like i am would miss out on some of the great things this site has to offer because of the few sods that come in and try to ruin the fun. Sorry.
Guest
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I read every post and if this was a democracy i would vote no.

It seems to me this would scare people away more than bring them in
HeraTeleia
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Quote by GirlyWorld
I already apologized. Why threaten me? Because you can?

I made a suggestion that I was (and am) passionate about. All I ask is that it be taken into consideration.


And all I did was ask for a clarification, yet you came down on me as if I were attacking you personally. The moderators exist for several reasons, one of those reasons being keeping discussions civil. To insinuate that Dani or any other moderator would "threaten" you is to denigrate their work (all volunteered time, btw) and the site itself. Everything you post from now on will be coloured by what you have posted in this thread, at least in my eyes.
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NymphWriter
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Quote by Buz
How about requiring fingerprints, DNA, an anal probe, an NSA background check, and a letter of authenticity from Interpol? And toss in your credit score.



This made me laugh... thanks for that Buz.

Every member here has joined for his or her own reason. I joined because a fellow author (who has since left for his own reasons) joined and liked the way this site was. I started posting my stories, made some great friends, and read some great stories, and some that weren't quite my cup of tea.

Trolls are on every story site. That's a given. You can't escape them. But, IMHO, Lush does more to keep the trolls out of this site than any other story site I've had any experience with. The members here are mostly friendly, but everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. This is why we have so many wonderful and kinky categories. There is something for everyone.
Ruthie
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Quote by Buz
How about requiring fingerprints, DNA, an anal probe, an NSA background check, and a letter of authenticity from Interpol? And toss in your credit score.



We'll get a lot of people joining just for the anal probes now.
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Guest
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Quote by HeraTeleia


And all I did was ask for a clarification, yet you came down on me as if I were attacking you personally. The moderators exist for several reasons, one of those reasons being keeping discussions civil. To insinuate that Dani or any other moderator would "threaten" you is to denigrate their work (all volunteered time, btw) and the site itself. Everything you post from now on will be coloured by what you have posted in this thread, at least in my eyes.


me too.

I won't be reading your poems anymore.
Beffer
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Seems to me there are quite a few long-established members who are guilty of the behavior your measures are intended to proscribe. Doesn't seem to stop them from being assholes in the forums when they get into petty disagreements, so I'm not sure what forcing new members to jump through more hoops would accomplish.
Buz
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Quote by Ruthie


We'll get a lot of people joining just for the anal probes now.


I've created one with a vibrating fuzzy tickler on the end.

Any volunteers?

goodhusband
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I don't understand this issue. I find Lush to be a very friendly environment. I've had a few people who didn't like my stories. Hell sometimes I don't like them either. If you really want crazy try Literotica. Two days ago I got an email that said, "I hope you and your wife die and your children grow up as orphans. Now that's negative feedback.