This is the flip side of the women's book "Why Men Love Bitches: From Doormat to Dreamgirl-A Woman's Guide to Holding Her Own in a Relationship" by Sherry Argov.
It appears that both genders, if perceived as being "nice" are doormats and losers.
I say ... fuck that ... be yourself. Treat others as you would like to be treated ~ and that right person will come along and share your life. Be a Dickhead or a Bitch to someone ... you'll be alone in life (unless you've got a shit load of money!)
Van
They just need to change the description to "needy and desparate guy" rather than "nice guy". There's something wrong with the world if "nice" has become a negative trait.
This is humor, in the Relationship Advice area?
Sorry, I'm not buying it.
Oh right ... now it's just satire, humor, and we're supposed to just say "hahaha" and move on.
Sorry, I'm not buying it, it's a cop-out.
Damon, I suppose your posts are just satire as well? I'm not buying that either, I rather think that the "cartoons" you posted show what you and DD really believe. You say things about it not being all black and white, and to see things as a continuum, then you post these. Your actions speak way louder than your words.
DD, you can stand behind your "nice guy" posts all you want, but you have nothing to teach me or anyone else here on this.
Sense of respect, anyone? Fail.
If trashing and slandering people because they don't act like self-centered, macho assholes (yes, I'm intentionally using that term again) is the only way some of you can get your rocks off, then you're almost worth feeling sorry for.
Not only am I not missing anything, I'm counting my blessings.
I think the problem we have here is a quibbling over terminology, as I believe it has been noted several times the term 'nice guy' desperately needs to be revised to include the words 'needy', 'controling' and 'desperate'.
Try to think of this as more of a guide of unattractive male characteristics and, as for the pop-psychology being employed by the author, take it as such but be assured that people actually think that way. Scary huh.
It's amazing how quickly this thread turned into a shitfight. Nice work everyone, I love it when we all let our inner children out to play with eachother....lucky I've got bandaids in my purse....
However, Ms Monroe, hilarious article, many thanks for posting it!
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Damon, you could have perhaps read carefully what I wrote before responding totally irrationally, to use your own term ...
If I'm not mistaken, I wrote:
I rather think that the "cartoons" you posted show what you and DD really believe.
Where you got the impression that I said I actually know what you believe is a mystery to me.
Also, I never used the term "macho assholes" to describe ALL the other males that actually have sex with women.
You don't know Jack Shit about me or my life, what I think, what I believe, what I care about, what I have experienced, good or bad, how I live, what I do, to just name a few. Nothing. You don't have a clue.
I don't know why you think you have to insult me personally ... especially when you know nothing about me. So you can just take your insults and shove them. If you don't like what you are reading, just click on the little red x you see in the top right corner of your screen (if you are running on Windows).
Ok, one final word from me on this thread. And so I won't offend the all too tender eyes of some of the readers here, I'll keep the font to its default size and I won't use any colors (who would have thought that would be an issue of contention? Some people will just grab at anything they can reach)...
If I say to somebody that if for example that person likes or does not like something, it's his or her decision and I'm fine with it, how is that an insult? I can't really see how the other remark quoted here could be perceived as a personal insult either , but so be it.
So, who was I slandering and trashing?
Someone has been getting a "stress-induced nose bleed by angrily typing away?" None of that here ... I never go near my keyboard when I'm even remotely angry. I will certainly not say that anybody has said anything that he or she did not, and you won't find any of that in any of my posts here. I'm sorry I can't seem to be able to say that about everyone else who has posted in this thread.
When somebody writes something overly negative about a certain group of people, no matter what group it is, the easy way out is to then say it's just satire, humor, or however anybody wants to name it. That enables a writer to just run roughshod over anybody he or she sees fit, all the while claiming it's just for fun. And the supporters of said writer run to defend him or her, saying it's just about a so-called "urban social term" and not about people, not in the least caring about the fact that the article in question may be totally spiteful, venomous, injurious and more often than not partially if not totally false. Sorry, that's too easy a way out, as any of the more reasonable people reading this thread would concur.
Nobody was attacking me specifically? Hmmm, I must have totally misread and misinterpreted Damon's last post. Nobody should be attacking me specifically anyway, unless the right to having an opinion is not allowed here.
As for the "critical thinkers" over at Heartless Bitches International, they would be ... where? Oh, yes ... that was probably a joke, too, or satire.
Oh, and thank you very much for worrying about my blood pressure. Rest assured, I've never had a problem with that, not even in my darkest days of having cancer. You should be so lucky. May I politely remind all of you that it is perhaps better that people who live in glass houses don't throw stones? I'm falsely accused of being righteously offended, but there is way more self-righteousness going on in the comments contained in the last post directed my way. Somebody really has a great opinion of herself here ... that's fine with me, too. Have it your way, I'll have it mine.
So OK, have fun with your cartoons, hideously "funny" bashing in the name of humor and satire, and what have you ... This is supposedly the Relationship Advice section of the Forum and not the Humor section where fun and satire normally belong; should there be a Hate and Bashing section somewhere, too? Some people would be having a field day in that section, and I will certainly not be among them.
Adieu.
Can anyone spell: High Fucking Maintenance?
Oh, I think I just did. With 11 beers in my gut, even. Beat that...all you alcoholic Lushies!
The same GQP demanding we move on from January 6th, 2021 is still doing audits of the November 3rd, 2020 election.
I love nice guys. I'm living with one. He adores me, we get on extremely well and he calms me down. I used to go out with errmmm non-nice guys and they just treated me like shit. I've learned to look beyond all that physical and macho bullshit and find the person within. I think it's a growing up thing.
I think the article is too black and white. According to the logic of the writer, Nice Guys are some sort of sect who share their DNA, and behave as a whole, with the same patterns and defects.
And then, the rest of men...of which, there's no example whatsoever.
Let's face it: we all (men) have Nice Guyish days, and not so Nice Guyish days.
Dont women suffer similar mood changes? Dont women wake up one day feeling like shopping, some other day feeling like spending the evening at home watching soap operas, and some other day they feel like going to a bukkake session?
The article casts some pathologic traits on this so-called Nice Guys group of people, and I think that level of bitterness is reached after many years of dating assholes...which is the writers fault, so I guess she is just venting her own fustrations and whining about her own sentimental failure.
IMO.
This article may be written jokingly but I thought it was 100% true. A few of my friends are "Nice guys" and they are the most bitter, self loathing sad sacks. Dressed in their khaki pants and shitty old navy tshirt with a giants baseball cap. Staring into their beer at the bar instead of talking and trying to actually be attractive to women....
They'll say shit like:
"look at that guy he isn't even talking to his girlfriend"
"If I was with her she'd be my queen."
"look at that douchebag over there he thinks he's the shit." (the douchebag being a guy with women)
They sit around wondering why pretty girls just don't like nice guys Like them only assholes boohoo... Look in the mirror, shave, get a haircut, buy some grownup clothes, grow a pair and go talk to woman.
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If they werent mad about it, it would sometimes be cute, like in the movies.