You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
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Actually I think this article seeks to explain what people mean when they use the term "Nice Guy" in a negative way. This is demystifying the concept of "Nice" being a negative trait. It's not that a woman doesn't want a guy who is nice... she doesn't want a guy that acts in the way the article describes.
They probably just need to find a different term for it altogether actually.
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http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml
The biggest problem is that most Nice Guys (tm) are hideously insecure.Wrong!
Nice Guys exude insecurityWrong again!
What about the man that dresses well, gives that sly grin, makes the cocky/funny comments, and leaves you wanting to know more (air of mystery, but from a CLEAN GUY)? No, he won't laugh at all your jokes; he'll make fun of some of them, creating MORE attraction for you. Oh, he's his own person alright. He doesn't need your approval because you know he'll just go to that blonde over there and talk to her, getting her interest after a courteous "good night" to you. Politeness and chivalry have nothing to do with being "needy" or "submissive" towards a woman. No way!
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I absolutely agree with Rocco, the article is a total crock of crap. I refuse to assimilate being "nice," "respectful" or anything else you want to call it with being spineless, submissive or pandering. And it certainly does not mean insecure.
Not only does the article come from the aforementioned website, but it is in the section "Rants." To me, that says it all.
So I'm supposed to become an asshole who has no respect for anything but himself and treats women like pieces of shit because that's what they, the women, want (assuming that is the case, which I don't)??? No fucking way, it ain't gonna happen. I most certainly will not descend to that level.
I'm 62, a cancer survivor, I've gone through a lot in my life, good and bad. I now live alone and am often tortured by loneliness, and can't get a date to save my life (I'm very pleased my life doesn't depend on it).
But I'll take that situation any day over being an inconsiderate macho jerk who thinks that women are just there to be abused.
Am I really supposed to believe that a majority of women are just drooling at the perspective of being taken for a ride by an asshole of that nature and that that guys like me, because they are nice, respectful or anything else you want to call it, are "insecure"???
If that's really how it is, then I'm not missing anything.
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Edit: i also agree that the term 'nice guy' is a bit confusing so maybe it needs to be changed to something else
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Responding so vehemently that it seems you are personally offended reminds us of what Shakespeare said, "me thinks he doth protest too much." People certainly have the right to disagree with the writer's statement, but if someone doesn't resemble the person described in the article, her definition of a "nice guy," what does it matter how she labels that particular type of guy?
Most women do not like those particular attributes, but it should be fairly obvious that someone can still be a nice guy without all or any of those traits, and women do like nice guys who don't have those traits. If that is as obvious as I think it is, then anyone who gets offended by her statement about a very specific, well defined group of people appears to not be comfortable or confident in who they are, whether or not that is the actual reality.
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Responding so vehemently that it seems you are personally offended reminds us of what Shakespeare said, "me thinks he doth protest too much."
Player Queen:
Both here and hence pursue me lasting strife,
If once I be a widow, ever I be a wife!
Player King:
'Tis deeply sworn. Sweet, leave me here a while,
My spirits grow dull, and fain I would beguile
The tedious day with sleep.
Player Queen:
Sleep rock thy brain,
And never come mischance between us twain!
Hamlet:
Madam, how like you this play?
Queen:
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
They are so anxious to be liked and loved that they do things for other people to gain acceptance and attention, rather than for the simply pleasure of giving. You never know if a Nice Guy really likes you for who you are, or if he has glommed onto you out of desperation because you actually paid some kind of attention to him.