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Dancing_Doll said it all except maybe that some people do enjoy in one night stand sex and some don't.
If we are not doing things with heart we shouldn't be doing them. I am glad that you Kyle did listen to yourself and quit having this typ of sex.
Since this is 21.century we really can have our one choices.
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To Dancing_Doll and DamonX, whose well written thought provoking replies I take as an invitation to further debate this issue and expand it along new avenues. The problem is composing a reply that is less than the size of a philosophy doctoral candidate's dissertation. I would like to have a few rounds of point/counterpoint and see what kind of consensus we can reach. The first round for me is refining my position because I think it's misunderstood.
My intent was to present a balance of experience by giving 4 sketches as illustrations. They were written as a whole meant to be connected as a single point of view.
The two sketches under the title of "The starlight side of one night stands" represent your positive views of a sexually liberated woman (and man), in control of their own bodies, engaging in sexual actively, with a full understanding of what they are doing. The first sketch, the Santa Monica encounter was a more sophisticated encounter, a random event based on various attractions of the other. The second, a more youthful and exploratory encounter. These events contained the positive elements you bring up based on your experience and feminist theory.
I don't believe either of you made a comment the "starlight" sketches.
What you found problematic were the first two sketches under the title "The ugly side of one night stands." These are the more interesting realities from my point of view, not particularly enjoyable. These sketches represent emotional, spiritual (non religious) and mental imbalances of lost people. People acting on raw need that works against their self interest. Imbalance exists, fucked up people exist, such people make decisions that fall outside the bias and prejudice you saw. In the first sketch it wasn't about a woman who was making choices beneficial to her. It wasn't about a guy just doing the guy thing. It was about about a guy being a predator taking advantage of weakness for his on gratification no matter what the costs. His prey was a woman who was out of balance with her reality.
Taking advantage of a emotionally disturbed woman, no matter how willingly she will engage in sex, borders on . What I was trying to point out that in this individual case the woman's was offering herself up as currency in exchange for emotional stability, that fucking me or any guy was a wrong decision for her. Fucking someone like her is a despicable act because she is a human being in trouble and the proper response would be to ask her out for coffee.
I think there are people who recognize what I am talking about. There is a dark side to sex and it fucks some people up.
Of all four sketches the first is the most potent because it betrays any notion that all sexual activity is positive.
Now that I have clarified my position I look forward to discussing many of the interesting points you both brought up.
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To Dancing_Doll and DamonX, whose well written thought provoking replies I take as an invitation to further debate this issue and expand it along new avenues. The problem is composing a reply that is less than the size of a philosophy doctoral candidate's dissertation. I would like to have a few rounds of point/counterpoint and see what kind of consensus we can reach. The first round for me is refining my position because I think it's misunderstood.
My intent was to present a balance of experience by giving 4 sketches as illustrations. They were written as a whole meant to be connected as a single point of view.
The two sketches under the title of "The starlight side of one night stands" represent your positive views of a sexually liberated woman (and man), in control of their own bodies, engaging in sexual actively, with a full understanding of what they are doing. The first sketch, the Santa Monica encounter was a more sophisticated encounter, a random event based on various attractions of the other. The second, a more youthful and exploratory encounter. These events contained the positive elements you bring up based on your experience and feminist theory.
I don't believe either of you made a comment the "starlight" sketches.
What you found problematic were the first two sketches under the title "The ugly side of one night stands." These are the more interesting realities from my point of view, not particularly enjoyable. These sketches represent emotional, spiritual (non religious) and mental imbalances of lost people. People acting on raw need that works against their self interest. Imbalance exists, fucked up people exist, such people make decisions that fall outside the bias and prejudice you saw. In the first sketch it wasn't about a woman who was making choices beneficial to her. It wasn't about a guy just doing the guy thing. It was about about a guy being a predator taking advantage of weakness for his on gratification no matter what the costs. His prey was a woman who was out of balance with her reality.
Taking advantage of a emotionally disturbed woman, no matter how willingly she will engage in sex, borders on . What I was trying to point out that in this individual case the woman's was offering herself up as currency in exchange for emotional stability, that fucking me or any guy was a wrong decision for her. Fucking someone like her is a despicable act because she is a human being in trouble and the proper response would be to ask her out for coffee.
I think there are people who recognize what I am talking about. There is a dark side to sex and it fucks some people up.
Of all four sketches the first is the most potent because it betrays any notion that all sexual activity is positive.
Now that I have clarified my position I look forward to discussing many of the interesting points you both brought up.
I totally and completely agree 100% with everything you said... You did present a very well thought out series of vignettes... and you beautifully high-lited the different shadings that a one-night stand can take on, depending on the person involved. Funny, I think we (as human beings) bring so much of who we are at the core into our sexual experiences. Sex is just an extension of ourselves, on a more uninhibited and primal level. If a person is not happy within themselves, then sex can become self-destructive and lead to further misery. And I agree, that men should be aware of those kinds of unstable women, and not indulge (provided they have some self-awareness at the time of a one-niter, which sadly isn't always the case). Definitely predators can spot these women, and they are often easy pickings.
Your other sketches really delved into the passionate, pleasurable sides that one-night stands can take on if a person is at peace within themselves and feel liberated to chase and indulge in their own desires.
My earlier post was just commenting on Damon's last Q (Quote: "It is possible that some women engage in promiscuous sexual behaviour to fill some void in their life...but I think usually its just having a little fun and living in the moment. What do the women think?"). I must have forgotten to quote it in my reply (I may have been hanging out at the Lush Wine Bar too much yesterday LOL). I was just borrowing from your "ugly side of one night stand" sketch because it was a great example of where women can go wrong in their intentions....
I'm totally on board with your earlier posts!
