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Buz
The Linebacker
Everyone should know how to properly tie a neck tie. And also ties should be tied to the proper length. President Donald Trump wears his ties way too long. He should know better. They shouldn't drop below your belt buckle. Plus he overdoes the red 'power' tie. That is a bit cliche now, been way overdone.

Anyhow, personally, I like smaller knots. They look neater. Also, a small knot is sometimes called a 'rock and roll knot'.

http://www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie
noll
"insensitive prick!" – Danielle Algo
Quote by Buz
Everyone should know how to properly tie a neck tie. And also ties should be tied to the proper length. President Donald Trump wears his ties way too long. He should know better. They shouldn't drop below your belt buckle. Plus he overdoes the red 'power' tie. That is a bit cliche now, been way overdone.

Anyhow, personally, I like smaller knots. They look neater. Also, a small knot is sometimes called a 'rock and roll knot'.

http://www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie



Last time I wore a neck tie must have been about 25 years ago. And the basic knot ('four-in-hand' according to the site) is easy to figure out by yourself when needed. So I beg to differ ;)


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Buz
The Linebacker
I love the simple knot but if the tie is too skinny or thin (material-wise) I may go with the four in a hand or the half windsor. Personally, I do not like fat knots.

Now tying a bow tie can sometimes get me in knots. But I prefer a real tie job when wearing a bow tie. And really that is almost exclusively when I am wearing a tuxedo (about 4 to 6 times a year.) Ugh!
Regnadkcin
Active Ink Slinger
Up until 20 years ago, I wore a suit and tie every day. Now it is about 2-3 times per year.

I agree most don't tie or wear a tie well.
noll
"insensitive prick!" – Danielle Algo
Quote by Buz
I love the simple knot but if the tie is too skinny or thin (material-wise) I may go with the four in a hand or the half windsor. Personally, I do not like fat knots.

Now tying a bow tie can sometimes get me in knots. But I prefer a real tie job when wearing a bow tie. And really that is almost exclusively when I am wearing a tuxedo (about 4 to 6 times a year.) Ugh!



Bow ties? You go to the wrong parties man.


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laura
Mana wahine
I learned how to tie a tie when I was thirteen, as it was a part of my High School's winter uniform. I went to a very strict all girls' school you see, and we had to have our neck ties tied a certain way, or the Deputy Principal would come past and undo the ties and demand we do them properly. It was the same with the hems of our skirts. If they were 'too short' the Deputy Principal would slash them so they were the 'proper' length.
browncoffee
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Quote by Lauradj
I learned how to tie a tie when I was thirteen, as it was a part of my High School's winter uniform. I went to a very strict all girls' school you see, and we had to have our neck ties tied a certain way, or the Deputy Principal would come past and undo the ties and demand we do them properly. It was the same with the hems of our skirts. If they were 'too short' the Deputy Principal would slash them so they were the 'proper' length.


same, only i learned at 11 and it was a mixed high-school. both boys and girls had to wear ties. wtf? you had to have them tied properly,, have your shirt tucked in and have your top shirt button done up. it was ridiculous. then again, i think most secondary school students in the uk have to wear ties. only our school was extra strict. you know the type of school that NEVER gives a snow day? yup.
laura
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Quote by browncoffee


same, only i learned at 11 and it was a mixed high-school. both boys and girls had to wear ties. wtf? you had to have them tied properly,, have your shirt tucked in and have your top shirt button done up. it was ridiculous. then again, i think most secondary school students in the uk have to wear ties. only our school was extra strict. you know the type of school that NEVER gives a snow day? yup.


Yes! The shirts had to be tucked in and the very top button done up, even though it was super uncomfortable and nearly choked us. I hated having P.E in the winter because we would have to get changed into our stockings, the kilt like skirt, heavy shirt that's tucked in with the top button done up, tie the ties and put the blazer on, all in five minutes or less to get to the next class. I hated it. Then again, it was a little nicer than the sexless table cloth-esque pinnafore we wore in the Summer. Ick!
browncoffee
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Quote by Lauradj


I hated having P.E in the winter because we would have to get changed into our stockings, the kilt like skirt, heavy shirt that's tucked in with the top button done up, tie the ties and put the blazer on, all in five minutes or less to get to the next class. I hated it.


okay, we must have gone to the same breed of school! winter PE was the worst! my fingers would be so cold, i couldn't do up my shirt buttons and then i'd get detention for being late to my next class. fucking school. fucking hated it!
Kiera
Short Arse Brit
I am so glad my husband taught the kids how to do this before he died. I have no clue how to do it. I hope they tie theirs properly, I am all self-conscious now that they are going to school without the right knot.
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SydneySider
Candy Connoisseur
I'm a Windsor knot guy. Always will be. And yes, I silently criticize trump and his tie length. Way way too long.
Wildcat
Active Ink Slinger
Quote by SydneySider
I'm a Windsor knot guy. Always will be. And yes, I silently criticize trump and his tie length. Way way too long.


Perhaps he's silently auditioning for a role as Ronald Macdonald, in preparation for when his world collapses.

I do love a man in a well cut suit though with a well matched tie.
SereneProdigy
Cryptic Vigilante
I do a Pratt knot exclusively, though I actually had to check online to recall the proper name:





I initially picked/learned that one because it's one of the most versatile: it yields a medium-sized knot and it looks more symmetrical than a simple or four-in-hand knot. I can also adjust the size of the knot fairly easily by tightening/loosening it, depending on what I'm wearing; small knots really don't look all that good with large collars, and vice-versa.

I really can't say it's something I give much thought about however. To me it's one of those things that became second-nature after a few minor attempts, just like tying my shoes. And it really isn't rocket-science either: most knots are just variations of one another, where you simply perform a set number of loops around either the small-end or collar to achieve a bulkier knot.

Neckties really aren't mandatory in my work/life either, they're little more than an accessory that I occasionally like to add to my attire for my own personal enjoyment. My current girlfriend does love when I'm wearing a casual necktie however (particularly to impress her female friends, haha), so I've been wearing more and more of them during the weekend in the last few years. And working in an engineering office, most of my coworkers dress like below. An occasional necktie blends in nicely, while an overly fancy business suit would make me appear as a major ostentatious prick:
noll
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Quote by kiera
I am so glad my husband taught the kids how to do this before he died. I have no clue how to do it. I hope they tie theirs properly, I am all self-conscious now that they are going to school without the right knot.


Are school uniforms still a thing in the UK?


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honeydipped
The Bee's Knees
my father taught me how to tie a tie in elementary school. now, thanks to sp, i know that it's a pratt knot.

Say. Her. Name.
Magical_felix
Wild at Heart
Here's a how-to for most of the styles.

Quote by Magical_felix
Too many grown ass men don't know how to do this. These step by step instructions are pretty simple to follow.










angieseroticpen
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Quote by noll


Are school uniforms still a thing in the UK?


Yes, and long may it continue to be so!
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browncoffee
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Quote by angieseroticpen


Yes, and long may it continue to be so!


but girls having to wear ties?!
Green_Man
Primus Omnium
Presently I only wear ties to funerals. Or on stage.
Verbal
Gravelly-Voiced Fucker
Quote by kiera
I am so glad my husband taught the kids how to do this before he died. I have no clue how to do it. I hope they tie theirs properly, I am all self-conscious now that they are going to school without the right knot.


I taught both my girls to tie a tie for school, though I often ended up doing it myself. I found it comforting and kind of a bonding thing. I think I use the 4 in hand knot, though it is hard to tell from the illustrations.

I wear one 5-6 times a year. The girls always "help" me with it. Also a comforting, bonding kinda thing.
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I learned because wearing a suit to church was still a thing in my youth. Used clip-ons until my teens, then learned to tie one myself (from looking at Felix's post upthread, it appears that Dad taught me the Pratt). Can still do it though I've never been great at it. Only wear a tie occasionally now anyhow. One formal party a year and the odd time for things like weddings and funerals. The church I attended until last year was casual, not even business casual, and my office is business casual.

My son only learned because of being in air cadets for a year. Their uniform included a tie and they were given the option of tying it four-in-hand or Windsor. Other than that, the only time he's worn a tie in the past few years was for my father's funeral, I think. However, high school graduation looms so maybe we'll get him in one this spring.

As for Trump, I think how he ties his tie is the least of his problems.zzEmM0WLekuUYs0Y
Beffer
Rainbow Warrior
My younger boyfriend is still in college and rarely has to dress up, but he still can't tie a tie to save his life, so either David or I have to tie it loosely around our necks for him and then put it on him to snug it up whenever he has to wear a tie.
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My younger boyfriend is still in college and rarely has to dress up, but he still can't tie a tie to save his life, so either David or I have to tie it loosely around our necks for him and then put it on him to snug it up whenever he has to wear a tie.


I have a feeling my son is going to be like that (referring to not being able to tie a tie, not to being in a complex polyamorous relationship ). Even with the experience from cadets, I doubt he's much good at it after all this time (that was almost five years ago now).
noll
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Quote by kiera
Probably more so then when I was at school. Girls didn't have to wear ties when I went to school; they do now, though.


Primary school only, or secondary as well? School uniforms are not part of Dutch culture. May have been in the past, but that was mostly boarding schools I suppose. Haven't seen any here in the last four decades as far as I recall.


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noll
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Yes, and long may it continue to be so!


May I ask why?


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Kiera
Short Arse Brit
Quote by noll


Primary school only, or secondary as well? School uniforms are not part of Dutch culture. May have been in the past, but that was mostly boarding schools I suppose. Haven't seen any here in the last four decades as far as I recall.


Both.
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Kiera
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Quote by noll


May I ask why?


My personal view on this, if I may?

I agree with Angieseroticpen, I like the kids in uniform.

Some parents can afford things others can't. Kids can be cruel about such things. Having a standard uniform for all the children makes them all more equal and bullying for such things less likely.

In addition to this, they are all more easily identifiable when on school outings. I also think they look really smart. I think most parents in the UK look forward to their child's first day of school and go crazy taking pics of them in their new uniform.
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Here in Canada school uniforms are a real mix.

Public schools, ie. government run and funded with no tuition or religious element, generally don't have uniforms, though I've heard of some going with "basic" ones (all kids have to wear dark slacks and white shirts type of thing but not ties and vests and such).

Private schools, it depends on the school. Higher end secular ones, which tend to ape the British schools (Prince Andrew even went to one here in Canada for a year), generally do. Most others don't seem to (e.g. Montessori and Waldorf). I don't have much experience with religious private schools, but I imagine at least some of them do.

Here in Ontario (but it differs in other provinces), Roman Catholic schools kind of tread the line. Their high schools used to be private and had uniforms but up to grade 8 was publicly funded and did not. Since the mid-eighties, they have been fully funded but the high schools still generally have uniforms, though the code seems to have relaxed considerably since my school days.

Which ones have ties? I think boys and girl in the Catholic system have them when they are in "full dress" and I'm pretty sure boys have to wear them at the local premier private school (we checked it out for my son but rejected it for various reasons).
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Some parents can afford things others can't. Kids can be cruel about such things. Having a standard uniform for all the children makes them all more equal and bullying for such things less likely.

In addition to this, they are all more easily identifiable when on school outings. I also think they look really smart. I think most parents in the UK look forward to their child's first day of school and go crazy taking pics of them in their new uniform.



These are the arguments used when the issue of uniforms in the public schools comes up around here.

The cost issue isn't necessarily a good argument, it depends on the cost of the uniforms and what a given kid tends to wear. We would be spending far more on our son's clothing if he went to the local private school that has them than we are right now. Though he isn't fussy about what he wears (something he picked up from both of us) so it's fairly easy to just pick up stuff from a Wal-mart or Winners.