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I would enjoy hearing some definitions of bad girl and good girl (according to men).
In many other threads, the notion of preferring a 'bad boy' to a 'nice guy' is considered rather offensive to a lot of men. They take it to mean that 'nice guys finish last' and that women prefer 'jerks'.
I'm just surprised that the "good girls" aren't rushing to defend themselves. Or perhaps it's more that most women want to believe they are 'bad' because it sounds sexier.
Are there any men that want to try defining "good girl" and "bad girl" and tell us the difference between the two?
In many other threads, the notion of preferring a 'bad boy' to a 'nice guy' is considered rather offensive to a lot of men. They take it to mean that 'nice guys finish last' and that women prefer 'jerks'.
I'm just surprised that the "good girls" aren't rushing to defend themselves. Or perhaps it's more that most women want to believe they are 'bad' because it sounds sexier.
Are there any men that want to try defining "good girl" and "bad girl" and tell us the difference between the two?
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All kinds.
Well that's just my opinion, sorry if you don't like.
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I can be both...it all depends on my mood and the guy I'm with.
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They're all good girls really. Some just need more guidance than others.
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A healthy mix of both often works I think ;-)
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Are there any men that want to try defining "good girl" and "bad girl" and tell us the difference between the two?
Ash, your question is very important to this thread but also very difficult to answer. I will give you my personal definition of "good" and "bad" and how I feel about the two. Of course just like you women the definition will change from person to person.
A "bad" girl to me represents the following - you go into a bar and she is the one hooting and hollering with her friends going to different spots in the bar to receive free drinks. She is the girl who knows that she doesn't have to bring any cash because she can use her charm and looks to constantly receive them from wanting men. She is dressed rather seductively (showing a lot of cleavage) and in tight jeans. She has peircings and tatoo's to show her bad girl persona (some may not be visible)
This girl has no problems going from man to man and chatting with them while reaching down between men's legs to 'size them up' getting them all hot and horny, thinking she is the one they are going home with tonight. As you know men get crazy when it comes to a woman and a fight may ensue - she will then make her decision who she may sleep with that night (if anyone) based on how the men react. Generally this woman is a little crazy in bed (mostly dirty talk) but with this girl when you have slept with her a few times it starts to become routine. This is the type of girl I would never want my mother to meet, seeing as she may not be able to carry on a conversation.
A "good" girl usually is a friend of the "bad" girl - she is the one that is at the table watching over everyone and making sure they are ok. She is the girl who is very confident in herself and walks with a high level of self esteem. This girl is dressed very well but also leaving something to the imagination (having most guys just glance once) I find these girls to be a little shy when it comes to starting a conversation, but open up quickly when sex is not the only topic of discussion. This girl is not looking just for sex she is looking for an emotional connection of sorts. She knows while a one night stand could be a lot of fun there are repercussions to deal with afterwards (being called a slut etc)
This girl could be a 'target' of sorts for men, they will want to talk to her to get to her "bad" girlfriend. The "good" girl is the type of personality that while she doesn't mind being a liason of sorts to her friend, she also would like some attention herself. These are the girls I personally prefer, they can carry a conversation and are very intelligent. When it comes to her sexual appetite she is very hungry. This woman has taken the time to learn different techniques (from Cosmo, Porn, etc) to know how to please her man in many different ways. This girl will never have a set routine in bed and constantly surprise her man. A "good" girl is someone you can trust bringing her to meet your mom, knowing she can intelligently engage in conversations about many topics.
Like I say that is just my own personal opinion, and I hope it sheds a little light on the topic (I know you and I are in for a little debate here - LOL)
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Girls are never bad, even if they are, they are Good !
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In my opinion a bad girl likes kinky sex, will approach guys and flirt, wears revealing clothing, is fun and loves attention. She is not a slut but will not hold out for a long time... Maybe not even 24 hours. They sometimes have a hard time choosing which guy to go home with.
A good girl likes more normal sex, can be more shy and waits to be hit on. She wears clothes that look good on her but is not flashy or too revealing. They tend to travel in packs and sometimes wonder why there are no goods guys around only duds.
A good girl likes more normal sex, can be more shy and waits to be hit on. She wears clothes that look good on her but is not flashy or too revealing. They tend to travel in packs and sometimes wonder why there are no goods guys around only duds.
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Quote by DudealiciousQuote by Dancing_Doll
Are there any men that want to try defining "good girl" and "bad girl" and tell us the difference between the two?
Ash, your question is very important to this thread but also very difficult to answer. I will give you my personal definition of "good" and "bad" and how I feel about the two. Of course just like you women the definition will change from person to person.
A "bad" girl to me represents the following - you go into a bar and she is the one hooting and hollering with her friends going to different spots in the bar to receive free drinks. She is the girl who knows that she doesn't have to bring any cash because she can use her charm and looks to constantly receive them from wanting men. She is dressed rather seductively (showing a lot of cleavage) and in tight jeans. She has peircings and tatoo's to show her bad girl persona (some may not be visible)
This girl has no problems going from man to man and chatting with them while reaching down between men's legs to 'size them up' getting them all hot and horny, thinking she is the one they are going home with tonight. As you know men get crazy when it comes to a woman and a fight may ensue - she will then make her decision who she may sleep with that night (if anyone) based on how the men react. Generally this woman is a little crazy in bed (mostly dirty talk) but with this girl when you have slept with her a few times it starts to become routine. This is the type of girl I would never want my mother to meet, seeing as she may not be able to carry on a conversation.
A "good" girl usually is a friend of the "bad" girl - she is the one that is at the table watching over everyone and making sure they are ok. She is the girl who is very confident in herself and walks with a high level of self esteem. This girl is dressed very well but also leaving something to the imagination (having most guys just glance once) I find these girls to be a little shy when it comes to starting a conversation, but open up quickly when sex is not the only topic of discussion. This girl is not looking just for sex she is looking for an emotional connection of sorts. She knows while a one night stand could be a lot of fun there are repercussions to deal with afterwards (being called a slut etc)
This girl could be a 'target' of sorts for men, they will want to talk to her to get to her "bad" girlfriend. The "good" girl is the type of personality that while she doesn't mind being a liason of sorts to her friend, she also would like some attention herself. These are the girls I personally prefer, they can carry a conversation and are very intelligent. When it comes to her sexual appetite she is very hungry. This woman has taken the time to learn different techniques (from Cosmo, Porn, etc) to know how to please her man in many different ways. This girl will never have a set routine in bed and constantly surprise her man. A "good" girl is someone you can trust bringing her to meet your mom, knowing she can intelligently engage in conversations about many topics.
Like I say that is just my own personal opinion, and I hope it sheds a little light on the topic (I know you and I are in for a little debate here - LOL)
Haha... loved your last line. OK, you know I can't resist a post like this.
So, looking at your definitions, it's obvious which girl you prefer.
But if I look at your definition of the 'bad girl', it's someone who is slutty, loud, rowdy, looking for free drinks, grabbing men's dicks in bars, possessing low intelligent, low self esteem, and unable to carry a conversation. I just see that more as your average drunk girl or girl on spring break. Maybe this is what guys think a 'bad girl' is. It's a fairly unattractive take on the term unless one is looking for a cheap and dirty one night stand. But of course the bad girl is supposed to be kinky in bed at first (consisting mainly of dirty talk) but that this will get boring fast, and the thrills in the bedroom will be far outdistanced by a girl that has been sexually educated by Cosmo. LOL That made me laugh a little.
I guess my main issue with the definition is that a girl that is outgoing, confident or sexually aggressive is seen as "dumb" and "conversationally-challenged". Can't smart girls be dirty girls too?
I think it's hard to really define these types based on behaviour in a bar. I've seen alcohol turn many a "good girl" into a raging slut. That doesn't make her a bad girl though. Once she sobers up, it's back to "omg, I swear I never have one night stands, this is the first time anything like this has happened", and then doing the quick walk of shame, scrubbing away the memories of the night, putting on her pink twin-set, rushing off to her job at the bank and reading Stephanie Meyer on her lunch hour.
I've always seen the 'bad girl' versus 'good girl' types as ones that carry through to everyday life. And I've always seen the bad girl as edgier, maybe not always 'nice' to everyone all the time, sexually confident, has a bit of a dark side, is assertive in relationships and maybe not as socially conventional. And I see the good girl as more traditional, conservative, looking to fulfill the typical female role, a nurturer, 'what you see is what you get' kind of Apple Pie 'gurly' girl.
So many guys say that they married "the good girl" and the sex is very mainstream and tends to get boring, but that she's a good person, reliable, trustworthy, and makes a good wife and mother, so that outweighs the sexually (and psychologically) conservative side. Besides, they have Lush, escorts or mistresses to distract them from their boring marriages anyway.
That's just my take on things... but I definitely don't equate a bad girl as just being a dumb slut. That's giving dumb sluts far too much credibility.
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I've always seen the 'bad girl' versus 'good girl' types as ones that carry through to everyday life. And I've always seen the bad girl as edgier, maybe not always 'nice' to everyone all the time, sexually confident, has a bit of a dark side, is assertive in relationships and maybe not as socially conventional. And I see the good girl as more traditional, conservative, looking to fulfill the typical female role, a nurturer, 'what you see is what you get' kind of Apple Pie 'gurly' girl.
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Well I guess that's where some peoples experience changes things, I think it was Usher that said he wants a lady in the streets but a freak in the bed. I guess I have been rather lucky to have good girls in my life that were just that. They were beyond average sexual partners, they managed to do a few things to me that I had no idea it existed outside of a porn movie. While as the bad girls were a good fuck (don't get me wrong) but didn't do anything over the top to really impress me. You mentioned it in another thread that there are good people 'with edge' does that make them bad or are the lines starting to blur?
Yes I agree with you that the bad girl is always edgier and looking for attention, while the good girl may just fly under the radar. This to me is very attractive in a woman, I like the fact that a good girl can walk into a room and take people's breaths away and mingle easily and is ok with being left alone. Whereas the bad girl will draw comments like "slut" from the attendees and pound her first drink intimidated by the people in the room often clining to her man. I know many men would like that reaction of knowing everyone is looking at their woman, but I don't need that to know she is beautiful.
I am going out on a limb here and will classify you in my good girl 'with edge' category. You can carry on a very intelligent conversation, express your opinions (duh) but you are not conservative (I have read your writing thouroughly...NAUGHTY!) From your posts I don't see you as needing everyone's attention when you are in a room, I see you mingling with everyone and being able to converse about important worldly topics independantly.
Well that's my two cents this time, I look forward to your reply.
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Well I guess that's where some peoples experience changes things, I think it was Usher that said he wants a lady in the streets but a freak in the bed. I guess I have been rather lucky to have good girls in my life that were just that. They were beyond average sexual partners, they managed to do a few things to me that I had no idea it existed outside of a porn movie. While as the bad girls were a good fuck (don't get me wrong) but didn't do anything over the top to really impress me. You mentioned it in another thread that there are good people 'with edge' does that make them bad or are the lines starting to blur?
Yes I agree with you that the bad girl is always edgier and looking for attention, while the good girl may just fly under the radar. This to me is very attractive in a woman, I like the fact that a good girl can walk into a room and take people's breaths away and mingle easily and is ok with being left alone. Whereas the bad girl will draw comments like "slut" from the attendees and pound her first drink intimidated by the people in the room often clining to her man. I know many men would like that reaction of knowing everyone is looking at their woman, but I don't need that to know she is beautiful.
I am going out on a limb here and will classify you in my good girl 'with edge' category. You can carry on a very intelligent conversation, express your opinions (duh) but you are not conservative (I have read your writing thouroughly...NAUGHTY!) From your posts I don't see you as needing everyone's attention when you are in a room, I see you mingling with everyone and being able to converse about important worldly topics independantly.
Well that's my two cents this time, I look forward to your reply.
As with the guys, it's all a spectrum. I still think that it's more of an ingrained state of mind. Drunkenness or slutty behaviour isn't what being a bad girl is about. Let's take a Hollywood example of Angelina Jolie as the prototypical 'bad girl'... she is very intelligent, well spoken, worldly, not insecure/needy or pounding back the drinks and dancing on tables at award shows. Yet most people would call her a 'bad girl'. She has a sexual confidence, lack of the need to play by the rules and expectations of what a woman is 'supposed to be', she definitely has a dark/edgy side, and is provocative without being dumb/trashy about it. She can probably have sex with anyone she wants and whenever/wherever she wants, but she's very deliberate in her choices. If you remember her in that femme fatale black leather halter dress walking the red carpet looking strong, mischievous and unapologetic... You want to know what's going on in her mind. It's an uncontrived kind of sex appeal. That's what I see the 'bad girl' as.
It's just a far cry from the insecure, slutty, dumb girl that's 'hooting and hollering' in a bar and looking to get laid. If you're in a bar and assessing people as 'good girls' and 'bad girls' just based on how easy it is to fuck them, that's one thing. But take them outside that bar/drinking environment and the true meaning of those terms shifts quite dramatically, in my opinion. Bad girls are usually extremely intelligent... I think you have to be in order to have the confidence to define yourself outside of the typical female expectations.
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Let's take a Hollywood example of Angelina Jolie as the prototypical 'bad girl'... she is very intelligent, well spoken, worldly, not insecure/needy or pounding back the drinks and dancing on tables at award shows. Yet most people would call her a 'bad girl'. She has a sexual confidence, lack of the need to play by the rules and expectations of what a woman is 'supposed to be', she definitely has a dark/edgy side, and is provocative without being dumb/trashy about it. She can probably have sex with anyone she wants and whenever/wherever she wants, but she's very deliberate in her choices. If you remember her in that femme fatale black leather halter dress walking the red carpet looking strong, mischievous and unapologetic... You want to know what's going on in her mind. It's an uncontrived kind of sex appeal. That's what I see the 'bad girl' as.
I find it very interesting that you mention Angelina Jolie, I will agree with you in part. When she was with Billybob Thornton getting matching tatoos and piercings yes I feel she was a bad girl. Now that she is with Brad Pitt with a brood of kids and supporting some very important humanitarian efforts - to me that is not a bad girl (in my definition)
Maybe it's the male psyche, to me a bad girl is Michelle "bombshell" Mcgee, while good girl would be Sandra Bullock. The uncontrived sex appeal to men is not visible in the first few meetings, in my opinion women hold those cards a little closer to their chest at first. Maybe some fear being called names but until that side is shown men won't know she falls into the 'bad girl' category.
I guess this thread just goes to show that peoples perception of good and bad sways, I guess it has to do with upbringing and exposure to certain social experiences.
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Well this thread did not surprise me at all when most guys said they would want a bad girl over a good girl because they can be boring. But what I don't understand is the fact that most guys get offended when girls say they want a bad boy over a nice guy. I have seen many threads on different sites of guys ranting about how nice they are, and they can't get the girl they want. These usually be smoking hot girls that know and can get what they want, and that have lots of attitude. the nice guys always fail at looking for a good girl, and they wonder why good women are so hard to find, or they all chalk women up into no good dirty whores category. This is one reason why some men have no idea what they want in a woman, and another reason why men are so confusing to me.
So I guess in the dating world, I would classify myself as the "The Boring Good Girl:That Have Been Told That She's A Major Skinny Bitch Sometimes." I have never had a problem getting a date or getting a man to pay for my drinks at the bar, the only problem is I can't get rid of them after they paid they for my drinks and it get's tiring.
I am a virgin at an old age. I am a huge fan of the Harry Potter series, The Batman Series, Christopher Nolan, and Quentin Taratino. I play guitar a little, I hate politics, the only sports that I watch is ballet, and Rhythmic gymnastics. And Oh I sale adult novelty toys on the side to get some extra cash.
So yeah I guess some men would find me boring.
So I guess in the dating world, I would classify myself as the "The Boring Good Girl:That Have Been Told That She's A Major Skinny Bitch Sometimes." I have never had a problem getting a date or getting a man to pay for my drinks at the bar, the only problem is I can't get rid of them after they paid they for my drinks and it get's tiring.
I am a virgin at an old age. I am a huge fan of the Harry Potter series, The Batman Series, Christopher Nolan, and Quentin Taratino. I play guitar a little, I hate politics, the only sports that I watch is ballet, and Rhythmic gymnastics. And Oh I sale adult novelty toys on the side to get some extra cash.
So yeah I guess some men would find me boring.
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Well this thread did not surprise me at all when most guys said they would want a bad girl over a good girl because they can be boring. But what I don't understand is the fact that most guys get offended when girls say they want a bad boy over a nice guy. I have seen many threads on different sites of guys ranting about how nice they are, and they can't get the girl they want. These usually be smoking hot girls that know and can get what they want, and that have lots of attitude. the nice guys always fail at looking for a good girl, and they wonder why good women are so hard to find, or they all chalk women up into no good dirty whores category. This is one reason why some men have no idea what they want in a woman, and another reason why men are so confusing to me.
Maybe the goodgirls are looking for the badboy too learn to be a badgirl? I know thats what happened to my wife.....lol
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Well every "good girl" has a very very naughty girl hidden inside her. The fun part is seducing the good girl, getting her nice and relaxed so she let's the naughty girl out to play.