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He probably just meant traits for instant physical attraction.
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He probably just meant traits for instant physical attraction.
Anyway - I went with athletic body, but face is important too. I'm not into a heavily muscled (ie. roid-enhanced) physique. Strong, healthy, fit with some muscle definition is best. It's one of the few things a person can control to a certain degree - tallness and good looks are typically more based on the genetic lottery.
That also doesn't mean a guy has to look like an Olympic athlete - obviously there will be non physical factors that have a much greater influence on overall attraction, so it's not all just based on a physical ideal but I think health and general fitness is important.
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Still, his choices are vague and pretty much all point out to a good physical shape/condition. Hence the semi-serious list I proposed.
An athletic body will also be a muscular one, featuring good looks and a sexy bum...
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An athletic body will also be a muscular one, featuring good looks and a sexy bum...
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Not necessarily. There are definitely different forms of athleticism and types. I'd say I'm definitely stronger than I appear. You definitely wouldn't see a ton of muscle definition on my body, even though I work out a ton. Same for females. Body types are certainly not all the same.
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#1 is confidence.
Girls are initially attracted to good looks, as are men, but confidence seals the deal.
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Actually I consider a 'muscular' vs 'athletic' body (because he cited them as separate choices) to mainly mean bodybuilder/bulked up guy vs lean muscle but toned/fit/athletic guy. They both have muscle mass but when I think of an athletic body type, I don't think of a roided up beefy muscular guy. I think of lean muscle mass - like a swimmer's body - healthy but natural. Pretty much those side-by-side pics that SP posted sum up the differences best if we're just looking at the options on the poll and they way they're differentiated.
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Still, I think pictures would have been way more appropriate. There's a lot of variation just for the bodybuilder type : some of them actually look good and natural (although quite big), while others can be monstrous beasts. Athletic can also imply a lot of things. What kind of athlete are we talking about? A 110 lbs marathon runner? A swimmer? A power-lifter?
As I've said, and I don't mean to offend, my opinion is that this poll is strongly biased from the start. These terms all evoke different images in our individual minds, so the final results are going to be subject to a lot of interpretation. Anyways, I sometimes participate in bodybuilding forums and this question has been raised waaay often, that is, what women in general consider the best looking physique for males. In these forums, a lot of people contributed with serious studies and the consensus is pretty much this :
This actually pisses off the veteran bodybuilders in the forums, as these males are not very muscular. These show decent muscle mass, with an average of 10% bodyfat. That's what is considered the most generally attractive, as considered by serious studies.
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I don't think it's that serious. I'm sure anyone venturing into this thread will know what the OP is getting at, and they will interpret and answer as such and provide their whats and whys. It obviously means different things to different people, but I think the OP is trying to understand what females find attractive in men when it comes to just the physical. I don't really think the technicalities of it matter all that much.![]()
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Actually I consider a 'muscular' vs 'athletic' body (because he cited them as separate choices) to mainly mean bodybuilder/bulked up guy vs lean muscle but toned/fit/athletic guy. They both have muscle mass but when I think of an athletic body type, I don't think of a roided up beefy muscular guy. I think of lean muscle mass - like a swimmer's body - healthy but natural.
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I sometimes participate in bodybuilding forums and this question has been raised waaay often, that is, what women in general consider the best looking physique for males. In these forums, a lot of people contributed with serious studies and the consensus is pretty much this :
This actually pisses off the veteran bodybuilders in the forums, as these males are not very muscular. These show decent muscle mass, with an average of 10% bodyfat. That's what is considered the most generally attractive, as considered by studies.
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I must admit, the dudes who have arms so roided up or so bulked up look disgusting. Not that I look are men that way being straight and all, but the muscle-headed freaks look unnatural. It's really weird to see my fellow bro walking around and they can't even keep their arms at their sides even if they tried. They swing out. Like an ape.
I don't know if women care one way or another, but I actually prefer being stronger than I look. It'll come as a surprise. And plus, should I ever need to escape death and the only way out is through a tiny arse hole, yea...I'd prefer my slimmer body.
Plus, my knees are totally shot. Just absolutely shot. I mean I've had so many injuries to my right knee, there's hardly any cartilage left. Makes building muscle in my eyes difficult. That spreads to other places. Since my knees are naturally weak, I'm guessing that's why it is even more difficult to add bulk to my upper half. You could literally tip me over easy because of my knees. It blows.
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Yep, the studies are correct.
I think one of the factors is that the bodybuilder is perceived as a guy who just sits in the gym, lifting weights, bulking up, and possibly doing unnatural things like cycling with roids in order to sculpt his body into looking a certain way. The athletic-body guy is perceived as more attractive because his body came by way of doing something else that he's passionate about (sports, training, martial arts etc) and the training gave him lean muscle - but just looking muscular wasn't the end-goal. They are seen as more cardio-fit and athletic than the bodybuilder. I'm not saying that bodybuilders can't be athletic - but it's just the perception - the sport vs the body-vanity - it's a different focus and motivation.
The big bodybuilders that walk with their arms swinging wide because they're so bulked up and the male athletes that are built like tanks like your Brock Lesnar and Alistair Overeem types really never tend to be popular on the hottest athlete or male bodies lists. It will always consistently be the leaner muscle guys that are muscular and fit but still look natural.
The athletic-body guy is perceived as more attractive because his body came by way of doing something else that he's passionate about (sports, training, martial arts etc) and the training gave him lean muscle - but just looking muscular wasn't the end-goal.
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Or your name is Christian Bale or Hugh Jackman. Friggen genetic freaks who can go from super skinny to super bloody ripped in a short time frame.
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I must add, I think most of the ab shots in movies and photography are simply tricks of the lights/shadows etc. Hardly anyone truly has abs that look like that.
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I can totally relate to the part where you say the physique I have is the result of what passionates me. Only achieving such a physique is not just about choosing a random sport, eating well and waking up one morning suddenly looking like a model. I know it might sound surprising, but although they might be close in size, there are tons of efforts that separate an average man to the ones I showed in the pictures.
Sorry for the long post, but I felt the need to expose this misconception.
So girls, do you still crave for the athletic body, now that you know what efforts are required to achieve it?
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I must admit, the dudes who have arms so roided up or so bulked up look disgusting. Not that I look are men that way being straight and all, but the muscle-headed freaks look unnatural. It's really weird to see my fellow bro walking around and they can't even keep their arms at their sides even if they tried. They swing out. Like an ape.
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LOL... I used to party with a few bodybuilder types and this one time when we were at this afterhours club, this dude walked in and he was literally the most massive meathead I'd ever seen - like jaw-dropping. At one point I was dancing and it was really dark and I saw him sit down on this low stool thing - except he had to kind of squat down onto it like he was sitting on an egg because he was too big to sit like a normal guy. Maybe it was because I was kinda high at the time, but all I could think of was 'Gorillas in the Mist'. He just looked so unnatural and ape-like - even for a bulky guy.
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I didn't say it was correct - I talked about perceptions - that is what a lot of people perceive when they compare a guy with an athletic build and a bodybuilder. That the bodybuilder is more fuelled by vanity and has taken it to a potentially unhealthy level. That's a perception that many people have (right or wrong). It doesn't mean that it's reality for all bodybuilders, nor does it mean that the athletic lean-muscled guy is just kicking a ball around and wakes up one morning with shredded abs. Any pro athlete spends an insane amount of time in the gym - a lot of it is training (strength training, cardio, lifting etc) because it benefits whatever they're involved in. I know what's involved as far as efforts go. Both require a tremendous amount of dedication and work. But one might be seen as 'training' (in the gym) for a goal other than greasing up and standing around on a stage and flexing for judges.
The average guy or girl who is into fitness rather than a sport and wants that low bodyfat, shredded physique is going to follow a similar regimen - and really they can take it as far as they want. The typical body-conscious guy with an athletic build spends about 5+ days at the gym, does the protein powders and is particular about his diet. That's really not out of the norm among the fit guys under 40 that I know. I also have tons of friends who have cycled with roids (or are still cycling) to fast track to get the body they want. But I hope they're doing it for themselves rather than thinking that's what's always attractive to women. You mentioned that bodybuilders were annoyed that those studies show that women aren't into the thinking that the bigger the muscles, the hotter the guy. I'm suggesting that the perceptions of extreme bodybuilders might have something to do with that. There is a natural limit where the human body starts to look 'off' to a lot of people.
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