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I've just received my first score of one, lol.
Apparently an author took umbrage to me giving a score of three for their new story, so I get a one in retaliation.
There were some grammatical errors and mistaken use of words. The sex was unrealistic and overall, treated the reader like a juvenile, with explanation after explanation.
I thought this sort of behaviour might happen in High School, but not here. We are all meant to be adults, aren't we?
I was wondering if this is a regular occurrance or a one off?
Do people expect every score to be a five?
Should I stop scoring on stories that I feel don't deserve a five?


Derek,
As I wrote you earlier, I think retaliation for a low is always unjustified. The fact it came from someone that I truly care about makes it even worse. I am caught between the preverbal rock and a hard place. I am not defending her actions or that of her fans but I think what you did not mention was that the mod that approved the story gave her An RR and all other scores were 5s. That and the fact that you scored her a random 3 with no comment or explanation made it seem like a internet slammer. (I call them internet trolls). I received a three with explanation once and wrote back thanking them for their feed back. Because of that input I edited my story. It is indefensible to low score any one in retaliation. When I see that happen to well written authors like Milik or Ashleigh or you, it makes me upset.

One of the things I appreciate about this community of writers is the feed back from accomplished authors. I am fairly new to fiction writing, although I am published in the technical field. So my deepest apologies for your being slammed. I would suggest a comment with a score might soften the blow.

Chuck
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Thank's Chuck.

xx SF
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Derek,
As I wrote you earlier, I think retaliation for a low is always unjustified. The fact it came from someone that I truly care about makes it even worse. I am caught between the preverbal rock and a hard place. I am not defending her actions or that of her fans but I think what you did not mention was that the mod that approved the story gave her An RR and all other scores were 5s. That and the fact that you scored her a random 3 with no comment or explanation made it seem like a internet slammer. (I call them internet trolls). I received a three with explanation once and wrote back thanking them for their feed back. Because of that input I edited my story. It is indefensible to low score any one in retaliation. When I see that happen to well written authors like Milik or Ashleigh or you, it makes me upset.

One of the things I appreciate about this community of writers is the feed back from accomplished authors. I am fairly new to fiction writing, although I am published in the technical field. So my deepest apologies for your being slammed. I would suggest a comment with a score might soften the blow.

Chuck



I am not sure if you realize, but this is not Cuba 1960. Even though I am sure dpw as we all do, respects opinion and given awards of Lush, you and your friend have to understand one really basic thing. He (dpw in this case) is entitled to have opinion. And shockingly further more, he is entitled to have different opinion than authorities (in this case Lush Moderator Team). If your friend and you think otherwise, please share that with me, I am interested in how you will present your arguments, to say the least.

Even though this thread is not the finest moment of dpw, your friend acted really mature, she for sure justified her mature and recognized (by mod) writing with this kind of attitude.

I just realized, soften the blow? please.
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I've had the "chat with me or else" threat made...it's just a matter of blocking the person before they can follow through. The worst was the one who sent a message telling me he'd scored a comp entry a 3, but would go back and change the score to a 5 if I gave him my phone number and had phone sex with him. Block, report, done. Personally, I either score a story a 5 or I don't give a score at all.
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I just realized, soften the blow? please.


a 3 after all is simply an "average," not a bad score.



As to dpw, welcome to the 1 club! I do believe all the "serious" writers are there already.
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I have retaliated for a slam or two and usually after, feel like a hypocrite. In all honesty, until some months ago, I wrote some real turkeys. Constructive help usually dries the crying ink. A four or five, we can all take...anything after, should come with a reasoning. There is no denying that there are those who playing certain cards for one reason or another. I am not gifted but I think "we" as scribblers should stand together and help Lush root out those that whiplash others. Wat him sed?
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I am not sure if you realize, but this is not Cuba 1960. Even though I am sure dpw as we all do, respects opinion and given awards of Lush, you and your friend have to understand one really basic thing. He (dpw in this case) is entitled to have opinion. And shockingly further more, he is entitled to have different opinion than authorities (in this case Lush Moderator Team). If your friend and you think otherwise, please share that with me, I am interested in how you will present your arguments, to say the least.

Even though this thread is not the finest moment of dpw, your friend acted really mature, she for sure justified her mature and recognized (by mod) writing with this kind of attitude.

I just realized, soften the blow? please.


I think you meant really immature. Did you read my entire reply? I was not justifying her actions. I was just explaining her reasoning. I apologized for her reaction. I would never do that to another author. Of course Derek is allowed his opinion, as you and I are also. He feels justified in his score and that is good enough for me. What is not justified is some one low scoring anyone in retaliation. I can't understand your reply to me.
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I've had the "chat with me or else" threat made...it's just a matter of blocking the person before they can follow through. The worst was the one who sent a message telling me he'd scored a comp entry a 3, but would go back and change the score to a 5 if I gave him my phone number and had phone sex with him. Block, report, done. Personally, I either score a story a 5 or I don't give a score at all.

I'm stunned at that! Why would anybody do that to you? Certainly not the sharpest tool in the box, leaving a trail back to themselves!
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Welcome to the One Club..

I have gotten it once that I know of for sure. He was mad the poem wasn't written for him.


You have a Recommended Read, that's great!!

As annoying as it may be to you, I wouldn't put much stock in it.

My advice would be to block them.

I like everyones' replies.

(I think that's where I put the apostrophe.)



I remember you being upset about that. His action proves that you are well rid of him.
I don't block, never have. Although, I do understand why some of the ladies have to.
Anyway it seems that we are in good company in the one club, lol.
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I remember you being upset about that. His action proves that you are well rid of him.
I don't block, never have. Although, I do understand why some of the ladies have to.
Anyway it seems that we are in good company in the one club, lol.


thanks..no, he's still a friend. I had removed him and added him as a friend a few times.

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a 3 after all is simply an "average," not a bad score.



As to dpw, welcome to the 1 club! I do believe all the "serious" writers are there already.


Not a bad score is relative. Considering the site average and what a 3 does to your reads, I'm not entirely in agreement with that point. It depends on a number of factors. A quick look through my work will show a number of two's and threes. I got a one on a few stories as well, including an EP.

The good news is that if your story has wide appeal, such scores drop off by the system filters as you pass through certain windows. In the end, we have to live with the scores we receive.
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thanks..no, he's still a friend. I had removed him and added him as a friend a few times.



You can't stay mad with him, eh?
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Not a bad score is relative. Considering the site average and what a 3 does to your reads, I'm not entirely in agreement with that point. It depends on a number of factors. A quick look through my work will show a number of two's and threes. I got a one on a few stories as well, including an EP.

The good news is that if your story has wide appeal, such scores drop off by the system filters as you pass through certain windows. In the end, we have to live with the scores we receive.

YOU got a one! That is laughable. It could only have been jealousy, I couldn't imagine you upsetting anyone.
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You can't stay mad with him, eh?


no..lol


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YOU got a one! That is laughable. It could only have been jealousy, I couldn't imagine you upsetting anyone.


Who would be mad at Milik??? lmao








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YOU got a one! That is laughable. It could only have been jealousy, I couldn't imagine you upsetting anyone.


Lol. I'm a moderator. It goes with the territory. smile
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Lol. I'm a moderator. It goes with the territory. smile


lol gives Milik some hugs.


LMAO



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lol gives Milik some hugs.


LMAO





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I think the best response to a 1 is to give it the amount of attention it deserves, the only number lower than 1, zero. There are those, I am sure who would give a score of 1 just because it bothers you.
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A score of ONE is a Badge Of Honour!!!

(I think I have a few... And I've given one or two... But GENERALLY I only do that when I am either very drunk or very annoyed... Or both... And, sad bastard that I am, I invariably PM to apologize when I sober up/calm down...)

Not mentioning any names...

xx Steph

(Balls. Everybody's going to give me ONES now, aren't they?)


Oh c'mon, Steph. You don't give yourself enough credit. You've had LOADS of ones before this thread ever appeared

(I can say that 'cause we're friends... Aren't we? Steph????
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I think you meant really immature.

No, I ment it as I wrote it.

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Did you read my entire reply? I was not justifying her actions. I was just explaining her reasoning. I apologized for her reaction. I would never do that to another author. Of course Derek is allowed his opinion, as you and I are also. He feels justified in his score and that is good enough for me. What is not justified is some one low scoring anyone in retaliation. I can't understand your reply to me.


Of course I did, what I read is that you are making excuses for your friend (even though your rational mind does not agree with her entirely). When we make excuses we tend to make justification for our actions or in this case, justification for your friend. Her reasoning is pitiful. No RR, none of her EP or straight 5 votes will justify what she did. Think before act people. dpw did absolutely nothing wrong (if you ignore this thread of course ), he read a story, he gave a score and moved on. Your friend and people similar to her need to get off their high horses because there is absolutely no way that every one will like us, our work and in this case our writing. And we are entitled to give vote without any explanation if that is our will. dpw obviously didn't want to be bothered with it, to me it looks like she should be happy that she didn't get 2. Relax people, we cannot be likable to every one, it is not possible.
hope this clears a bit my quoting
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Not a bad score is relative. Considering the site average and what a 3 does to your reads, I'm not entirely in agreement with that point. It depends on a number of factors. A quick look through my work will show a number of two's and threes. I got a one on a few stories as well, including an EP.

The good news is that if your story has wide appeal, such scores drop off by the system filters as you pass through certain windows. In the end, we have to live with the scores we receive.


3 is 3, here, there, everywhere. 3 is 3. Is average. Low score does nothing to readers, most readers don't even notice those numbers.
I remember thread were it was discussed about 1 vote you got on your EP, I don't want to go into it, but this site is very friendly site, votes are not even close to be realistic, not even close (I am not talking about you but in general), the question that appears in my head over the years what do I want from this site: a) realistic review of the readers (which would systematically lead into completely different site. people will get more intense, less joyful and friendly and so on..) or b) keep the illusion that everyone is above average writer and have fantastic community with happy people.
I vote for b) and that is why I never vote on story with less than 5 (apart from few in my newbies days)
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I think the best response to a 1 is to give it the amount of attention it deserves, the only number lower than 1, zero. There are those, I am sure who would give a score of 1 just because it bothers you.

I sent them a pm, thanking them for scoring and hoping they enjoyed reading the stories. It's only polite.
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Of course I did, what I read is that you are making excuses for your friend (even though your rational mind does not agree with her entirely). When we make excuses we tend to make justification for our actions or in this case, justification for your friend. Her reasoning is pitiful. No RR, none of her EP or straight 5 votes will justify what she did. Think before act people. dpw did absolutely nothing wrong (if you ignore this thread of course ), he read a story, he gave a score and moved on. Your friend and people similar to her need to get off their high horses because there is absolutely no way that every one will like us, our work and in this case our writing. And we are entitled to give vote without any explanation if that is our will. dpw obviously didn't want to be bothered with it, to me it looks like she should be happy that she didn't get 2. Relax people, we cannot be likable to every one, it is not possible.
hope this clears a bit my quoting


I have no idea what you want from me and the constant replies. I did not justify her friends actions. I publicly cautioned against it. A fact you have missed was that she did not low score anyone. It was two of her reactionary followers. They asked her who scored her low (average) and she told them. She should have said nothing and moved on. So for one last time.

I. It was wrong. Period!

2. I don't justify their actions. I only explained their skewed reasoning.

3. It could have been avoided entirely if she took full advantage of Lush's settings to require a comment with a vote.

4. I personally have never given a score without comment, but he was with the rules to score without comment. I have found a few stories that were justifiably 3 or 2.

5. I personally wrote Derek and asked about the score. He was gracious to reply and explained.


The one that was wronged was Derek and this thread hopefully will promote civility.
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I have no idea what you want from me and the constant replies. I did not justify her friends actions. I publicly cautioned against it. A fact you have missed was that she did not low score anyone. It was two of her reactionary followers. They asked her who scored her low (average) and she told them. She should have said nothing and moved on. So for one last time.

I. It was wrong. Period!

2. I don't justify their actions. I only explained their skewed reasoning.

3. It could have been avoided entirely if she took full advantage of Lush's settings to require a comment with a vote.

4. I personally have never given a score without comment, but he was with the rules to score without comment. I have found a few stories that were justifiably 3 or 2.

5. I personally wrote Derek and asked about the score. He was gracious to reply and explained.


The one that was wronged was Derek and this thread hopefully will promote civility.


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Derek,
As I wrote you earlier, I think retaliation for a low is always unjustified. The fact it came from someone that I truly care about makes it even worse. I am caught between the preverbal rock and a hard place. I am not defending her actions or that of her fans but I think what you did not mention was that the mod that approved the story gave her An RR and all other scores were 5s. That and the fact that you scored her a random 3 with no comment or explanation made it seem like a internet slammer. (I call them internet trolls). I received a three with explanation once and wrote back thanking them for their feed back. Because of that input I edited my story. It is indefensible to low score any one in retaliation. When I see that happen to well written authors like Milik or Ashleigh or you, it makes me upset.

One of the things I appreciate about this community of writers is the feed back from accomplished authors. I am fairly new to fiction writing, although I am published in the technical field. So my deepest apologies for your being slammed. I would suggest a comment with a score might soften the blow.

Chuck



Dude, you can call me crazy, but here is your first post. I cannot help it if you think something and write the other. I balded specifically what bothered me, you were turning around and managed to confuse the hell out of me who is who doing what to whom. I do not care anymore, I made my point clear for future Lush generations who will read this thread:
a) think before you act
b) don't kick below the belt, you'll look laughable at
c) not possible that everyone will like you or your stories,
d) we have right to opinion even though it contradicts the Lush Standard Controllers

p.s. Sweety, you don't have to talk to me if you don't want to, but for sure you cannot prevent me quoting you.

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I'm fine on this thread, it's over. I don't mind it carrying on in a humorous or even serious manner but not to attack anyone.
If it does, I'll post my first sexual experience, *edited by moderator*! That will lock the thread!!!
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I'm fine on this thread, it's over. I don't mind it carrying on in a humorous or even serious manner but not to attack anyone.
If it does, I'll post my first sexual experience, underage and ! That will lock the thread!!!


You should know better that threats don't go well with, well anyone. Mods can simply delete your provocations.
That being said, if I crossed Lush line, I ask one mod to come and remind me of that. Thanks.
Beside, even though you are the holder of the thread, Lush is the owner of it and I don't think it is played like this when holder of the thread is done, the rest of the Lush should back of and not to post any of it. But please, call a mod in.
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You should know better that treats don't go well with, well anyone. Mods can simply delete your provocations.
That being said, if I crossed Lush line, I ask one mod to come and remind me of that. Thanks.
Beside, even though you are the holder of the thread, Lush is the owner of it and I don't think it is played like this when holder of the thread is done, the rest of the Lush should back of and not to post any of it. But please, call a mod in.

The thread was about low scores and if other authors had experienced it. Chuck hasn't, to my knowledge, done it. I have no gripe with him. I don't even mind that the author low scored me. It was the two morons that decided it was the best way to defend their friend.
I don't want to see a perfectly reasonable thread turned into a free for all to attack another member.
And yes if I mention my first sexual experience, this thread would be shut in a nano second, trust me on that!
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The thread was about low scores and if other authors had experienced it. Chuck hasn't, to my knowledge, done it. I have no gripe with him. I don't even mind that the author low scored me. It was the two morons that decided it was the best way to defend their friend.
I don't want to see a perfectly reasonable thread turned into a free for all to attack another member.
And yes if I mention my first sexual experience, this thread would be shut in a nano second, trust me on that!


Look I get it, but you need to understand that this is a big boys playground, it is site for adults if someone cannot handle one shouldn't play in it. Second, you cannot expect that conversation will stay strictly on topic. I didn't move far from it though, it was around votes as many others did, as conversation should be. Third, it is one thing to attack and another debate, but please do not expect that if I or any other member will say anything in the forum, the rest shouldn't comment if they don't agree. It is beyond my understanding if that is what you are suggesting. Forth, please, you can do whatever with your threats, but they are hitting the wall with me. I simply do not care what will you do. Fifth, I understand that it is difficult to swallow me or my ways, but I refuse to sugarcoat people on adult forum sex site.
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Look I get it, but you need to understand that this is a big boys playground, it is site for adults if someone cannot handle one shouldn't play in it. Second, you cannot expect that conversation will stay strictly on topic. I didn't move far from it though, it was around votes as many others did, as conversation should be. Third, it is one thing to attack and another debate, but please do not expect that if I or any other member will say anything in the forum, the rest shouldn't comment if they don't agree. It is beyond my understanding if that is what you are suggesting. Forth, please, you can do whatever with your threats, but they are hitting the wall with me. I simply do not care what will you do. Fifth, I understand that it is difficult to swallow me or my ways, but I refuse to sugarcoat people on adult forum sex site.


I'm not asking you to sugarcoat anything, and you know me well enough that I can hold my own in any debate! So please don't ever mention big boys to me.
I didn't want this to descend into a get Chuck thread, which I know you are capable of.
If you want to attack anyone, then it's the two morons that you should be directing your posts to. One has just sent me a pm saying he didn't read my story, just low scored it.