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I'm sure I'm not the first one to talk about his, but I don't see an active thread on it.

Yes, I do think that erotic stories form a distinct medium which has it's own specificity, and they cannot simply be translated into film with the same effect. However, some stories ARE cinematic. Sometimes they've risen from a cinematic imagination in the first place.


If someone could figure out the financial aspect of it, I think a place like lushstories could be an excellent source of ideas, and script writers for erotic feature films, or even series. Clearly, it'd be better than the host of relatively big budget porn feature films that we have now.
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There's a thread around here somewhere about films people would like to make and I think one of my ideas was an anthology series based on Lush stories. Given the short length of most stories here due to the 10K word limit, I think that might work better than a film. Though if it was successful, maybe one of the more popular novels/series could be done as a film tie-in.

It would obviously have to be streamed. Even cable would probably want things toned down to softcore. Perhaps one of the porn sites would consider hosting the stream or perhaps Nic could build something here.

The main problem that I see is going to be quality. Not too many really good directors or performers will do hardcore so we'd probably have to shoot softcore if we wanted better quality. Perhaps, though, there are some porn stars who can also handle the acting needed for some of the better stories. I just haven't seen much evidence of it in the porn features I have seen over the years.
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There's a thread around here somewhere about films people would like to make and I think one of my ideas was an anthology series based on Lush stories. Given the short length of most stories here due to the 10K word limit, I think that might work better than a film. Though if it was successful, maybe one of the more popular novels/series could be done as a film tie-in.

It would obviously have to be streamed. Even cable would probably want things toned down to softcore. Perhaps one of the porn sites would consider hosting the stream or perhaps Nic could build something here.

The main problem that I see is going to be quality. Not too many really good directors or performers will do hardcore so we'd probably have to shoot softcore if we wanted better quality. Perhaps, though, there are some porn stars who can also handle the acting needed for some of the better stories. I just haven't seen much evidence of it in the porn features I have seen over the years.


Yes, I actually agree on all points. Thinking of this, even if not entirely seriously, the first problems that came to mind for me were funding and talent. I agree that it has to be streamed, that mostly they have to be episodic in nature, and that one would have to start softcore, and then depending on popularity progress further. I'm okay with this idea. The parallels in my mind however, are not porn features as such, but more like the pink film culture in Japan or the films of Jean-Claude Brisseau (especially A l'aventure).
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Not too many really good directors or performers will do hardcore.


This. The "feature films" that the porn industry has churned out to date have mostly been absolute tripe. But then I guess the market is girls with fake everything making as much noise as possible so blokes get off quick so the odds of someone writing something with an actual plot that also has great sex is quite low if pandering to that demographic.

That said, there have been some excellent porn and mainstream stories with gratuitous sexual elements, either implied hardcore or actual. 9 Songs wasn't too bad and had some nicely shot naughtiness. Maddy O'Reilly in "The sexual liberation of Anna Lee" was pretty freaking hot. Eva Green in The Dreamers had some damn fine moments and a decent (if typically French) plot. And the lesbian scene in Blue Is The Warmest Colour - about an hour and a ten mins in, I uhhh, have been told smile - is possibly one of the hottest mainstream scenes on film, imo. Again, the film is typically moody and over-long, but pretty good all told.

So there is precedent out there. And there are great stories on Lush, so I'd wager an anthology type of affair would be possible if - as seeker4 says - the right people (non-pornstars) were willing to be in them.

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This. The "feature films" that the porn industry has churned out to date have mostly been absolute tripe. But then I guess the market is girls with fake everything making as much noise as possible so blokes get off quick so the odds of someone writing something with an actual plot that also has great sex is quite low if pandering to that demographic.

That said, there have been some excellent porn and mainstream stories with gratuitous sexual elements, either implied hardcore or actual. 9 Songs wasn't too bad and had some nicely shot naughtiness. Maddy O'Reilly in [url=https://]"The sexual liberation of Anna Lee"[/url] was pretty freaking hot. Eva Green in The Dreamers had some damn fine moments and a decent (if typically French) plot. And the lesbian scene in Blue Is The Warmest Colour - about an hour and a ten mins in, I uhhh, have been told smile - is possibly one of the hottest mainstream scenes on film, imo. Again, the film is typically moody and over-long, but pretty good all told.

So there is precedent out there. And there are great stories on Lush, so I'd wager an anthology type of affair would be possible if - as seeker4 says - the right people (non-pornstars) were willing to be in them.



Yes, sure. The films you named are nice indeed. I wouldn't say 'typically French' is the defining characteristic of The Dreamers, but I understand why you might have put it the way you did. I'd like to add the films of Catherine Breillat, Jean Claude Brissau to the list. I also liked Gasper Noe's Love 3D somewhat. But these are not the only things I had in mind when I wrote what I did up top. The variety of good quality stories in Lush would demand a wider reach, and be better off for it. I would be willing to tolerate some less than oscar worthy acting performances if it meant start of a new effort in the domain of erotic filmmaking.
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While, I'd enjoy seeing some of my stories acted out professionally, there are more than a few issues, including the fact that the market isn't exactly starving for content, and writing the story is a minor part of producing a porn video of any quality. Furthermore, there's the issue of payments - how to generate revenue for the site for film producers to gain access to these stories, and whether or not authors will receive compensation (and how much? Probably not very much).

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While, I'd enjoy seeing some of my stories acted out professionally, there are more than a few issues, including the fact that the market isn't exactly starving for content, and writing the story is a minor part of producing a porn video of any quality. Furthermore, there's the issue of payments - how to generate revenue for the site for film producers to gain access to these stories, and whether or not authors will receive compensation (and how much? Probably not very much).


Yes, I understand and agree with these concerns. While the idea of specifically lush stories being adapted audio-visually is exciting, what I was trying to refer to broadly is using better material for erotic films than the stuff we get in pornography. I think demand is the big thing. If lushstories shows that there is demand for narrative ridden sex stories, then perhaps someone will take a leap of faith that mini erotic series on a streaming platform will likewise invite decent traffic.
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What I was trying to refer to broadly is using better material for erotic films than the stuff we get in pornography.


I do agree with you there. I love a great erotic build up to sex, and you don't often get that in porn.

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There is very little thought in the porn material today. I just watched a Lena Paul 35 minute film. It opens with her dancing and teasing in a skimpy outfit solo playing with herself. Her clothes come off. A stud enters the living room and they kiss and get intimate feeling each other up. She performs a sloppy blow job on him. She gives him a sopping wet titty fuck. They fuck in 3 different positions. They go back to the blowjob and then titty-fuck again. He cums in her mouth and on her tits. Maybe they have a storyboard. People want it because they like Lena Paul and her dirty mouth which she makes up her dialogue as she goes along. They like her sloppy blowjobs and her natural boobs giving titty-fucks (me). I could probably come up with something far better but would it sell more copies. Would a soundtrack make it better for sales? I doubt it.
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You would have to go back to the 'Golden Age of Porn' to see cinematic qualities like a plot and acting. Some of the best films of that era are made by a company called 'Alpha France' done in the late 1970s and early 1980s. You can find some of these on the internet and some are dubbed or subtitled. They are very good, shot on film stock, plot, acting, locations, great sex, and some very attractive women.

Basically, if they were done today, my guess is they would not sell. These films were made to be shown in cinemas and they were so successful a whole sub-culture sprung up called 'Cinema X'. Trust me, being in one is an unforgettable experience, one I have written about here as a true story.

I think modern porn is mostly pretty dire, there are some exceptions. Very little of it is erotic, it's anatomical and (in my experience) no-one fucks like that. I watched a documentary by a former porn star called 'Ovidie' about what the porn industry is today, frankly put, I found it very revealing from an insider point of view (she is also a writer and porn producer). Some of the old production companies have gone to the wall mainly down to free internet porn and in interview, these companies cared about the quality of what was made and how the women and men were treated.

I do like the idea that you could turn lush stories into a good porn flick. I have a habit of writing multi-part stories and I really like to draw descriptive backgrounds to set the scene, good characters and also I work hard on getting the dialogue right. I guess it comes from watching a lot of retro porn.
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This. The "feature films" that the porn industry has churned out to date have mostly been absolute tripe. But then I guess the market is girls with fake everything making as much noise as possible so blokes get off quick so the odds of someone writing something with an actual plot that also has great sex is quite low if pandering to that demographic.

That said, there have been some excellent porn and mainstream stories with gratuitous sexual elements, either implied hardcore or actual. 9 Songs wasn't too bad and had some nicely shot naughtiness. Maddy O'Reilly in "The sexual liberation of Anna Lee" was pretty freaking hot. Eva Green in The Dreamers had some damn fine moments and a decent (if typically French) plot. And the lesbian scene in Blue Is The Warmest Colour - about an hour and a ten mins in, I uhhh, have been told smile - is possibly one of the hottest mainstream scenes on film, imo. Again, the film is typically moody and over-long, but pretty good all told.

So there is precedent out there. And there are great stories on Lush, so I'd wager an anthology type of affair would be possible if - as seeker4 says - the right people (non-pornstars) were willing to be in them.



I've pretty much just said the same thing and this caught my eye. Look up 'Alpha France' in your favourite search engine and see if you can find a dubbed or subtitled one. These are French porn films that went mainstream in the 70s and 80s.

Films like "Les petites écolières", "La rabatteuse" and "Je suis à prendre"
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I’ve had a number of comments from readers who thought certain of my stories would make a good movie. Kelly’s Passion and the Survivor series come to mind but there are others. I’d love to see it, especially The Survivor.
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I'm sure I'm not the first one to talk about his, but I don't see an active thread on it.

Yes, I do think that erotic stories form a distinct medium which has it's own specificity, and they cannot simply be translated into film with the same effect. However, some stories ARE cinematic. Sometimes they've risen from a cinematic imagination in the first place.


If someone could figure out the financial aspect of it, I think a place like lushstories could be an excellent source of ideas, and script writers for erotic feature films, or even series. Clearly, it'd be better than the host of relatively big budget porn feature films that we have now.


As far as the financials are concerned, I think something like a Go Fund Me or Kickstarter could work, but in a slightly different way. Let's say lushstories or a site similar were to ask members to contribute into a fund to provide a budget for a story driven adult film. The fund will be paid out to any studio (adult or otherwise) who is willing to accept the challenge. The difference would be instead of just giving them the money, there would be a minimum contribution (the cost of a DVD). Members can give more if they wish. Once the film is finished, each contributor will have the DVD sent to them. It's a guaranteed DVD sale before the film is ever made. Then the rest of the DVD's can be made available to the general public.