I've found when writing that I keep creating too much back ground information, histories, reason why this was occurring, parenting and such. Its gets to the point where the back story is more then the story its self sometimes, a short story turns into a novel idea. Then I have too rethink the whole plot and most of the time I get so annoyed that I shelve the idea and move on to something else.
Does this happen to anyone else? What would you do about it?
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Too much back story?
Constant Gardener
It can easily happen with me.
I suggest you concentrate on a shorter duration of focus to describe for your audience. A scenario, if you will.
Perhaps everything which occurs as you wish to portray it from Moment A to Moment H or...R (for instance) of a two to six to ten hour event.
And don't rule out your talent for the backstory...some day you may wish to write your interesting novels.
I suggest you concentrate on a shorter duration of focus to describe for your audience. A scenario, if you will.
Perhaps everything which occurs as you wish to portray it from Moment A to Moment H or...R (for instance) of a two to six to ten hour event.
And don't rule out your talent for the backstory...some day you may wish to write your interesting novels.
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I'm not sure if my stories have too much back story, but they sometimes have a really really long buildup before any sex occurs. I find that the more stories I write, the longer the stories get too. I'll usually put a disclaimer at the beginning to warn the readers, that way they can skip to the sex if they so desire. Different people like different things, so you can't please everyone. As long as the backstory contributes to the story in some way though, you should leave it in.
Or you can break it up into chapters.
Or you can break it up into chapters.
Alpha Blonde
I agree.... I have put in a disclaimer too if the story is going to be longer, and include more character development. I love a good backstory. I appreciate a build-up before the climactic sex scene, and I enjoy knowing character motivations... especially in certain story genres.
A tip.
When you are writing the story, begin two documents in your word processor - one for the main story, the other for the back story.
When you have finished the story (which should be fast and action packed), you then add the pieces of back story that are necessary.
Sometimes, you can gove the reader far more detail than they need.
BTW, much prefer to tell the backstory through dialogue.
When you are writing the story, begin two documents in your word processor - one for the main story, the other for the back story.
When you have finished the story (which should be fast and action packed), you then add the pieces of back story that are necessary.
Sometimes, you can gove the reader far more detail than they need.
BTW, much prefer to tell the backstory through dialogue.
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A tip.
When you are writing the story, begin two documents in your word processor - one for the main story, the other for the back story.
When you have finished the story (which should be fast and action packed), you then add the pieces of back story that are necessary.
Love that tip.
I think no matter what kind of story, a one-nighter, or a full life story deserves some kind of back story... maybe write out the entire story.. with the back-story and make another copy of it... while you go through it, find every part of the story you don't feel is "necessary" and take it out... if you read it over (or tell someone else to read it) and you can understand it... Voila!
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A tip.
When you are writing the story, begin two documents in your word processor - one for the main story, the other for the back story.
When you have finished the story (which should be fast and action packed), you then add the pieces of back story that are necessary.
Sometimes, you can gove the reader far more detail than they need.
BTW, much prefer to tell the backstory through dialogue.
Great tip! I will have to remember this. Thanks!
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I am having this problem right now. I am trying to write a contest entry that balances a little bit of adventure with the proper amount of erotisism and I keep winding up at fifteen and twenty pages, which is fine for me but I dont think the aim of the contest is to put people to sleep.
Length is always an issue with me. I have one story I started writing that deals just with two people and the slow teasing seduction I'm at five full pages with fairly small print and its still at the oral part.
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The struggling writer's anguished cry, "Where the heck does my story begin?" is a common one.
Here are a couple FWIW & IMHO, type thoughts:
Short stories tend to focus on incidents over character development.
Novels tend to focus more on how characters react to and are changed by events.
There are, of course, approximately one-zillion exceptions (give or take a jillion) but you might try to keep it in mind. Read some of the "classic" short stories by writers such as Poe, O'Henry, and Hemingway, and notice how little the reader learns about the protagonist.
The main thing is to keep writing, keep reading, and keep trying to figure out where your stories begin.
Rumple Foreskin
Here are a couple FWIW & IMHO, type thoughts:
Short stories tend to focus on incidents over character development.
Novels tend to focus more on how characters react to and are changed by events.
There are, of course, approximately one-zillion exceptions (give or take a jillion) but you might try to keep it in mind. Read some of the "classic" short stories by writers such as Poe, O'Henry, and Hemingway, and notice how little the reader learns about the protagonist.
The main thing is to keep writing, keep reading, and keep trying to figure out where your stories begin.
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Where does the story begin?
Good question and one that should be asked after the story is written!
What is first written should never be published as is!
In my case - the story is written without any cocnern for form, punctuation, grammar or characters. In fact, the dialogue is what is mainly written first.
Then, in the second draft, the story is rewritten. At this point, the length of the story is usually doubled, perhaps tripled. Back story is added if required.
In the editing prcess, the decision is made where the story will begin and end - much is moved and much is deleted.
Never try to write the story in its final form - it is distracting to the drama and characters...
Good question and one that should be asked after the story is written!
What is first written should never be published as is!
In my case - the story is written without any cocnern for form, punctuation, grammar or characters. In fact, the dialogue is what is mainly written first.
Then, in the second draft, the story is rewritten. At this point, the length of the story is usually doubled, perhaps tripled. Back story is added if required.
In the editing prcess, the decision is made where the story will begin and end - much is moved and much is deleted.
Never try to write the story in its final form - it is distracting to the drama and characters...
Wild at Heart
I am very new to writing so I actually tend to make my stories kind of short and crude. They seem more like scripts for elaborate porn scenes. I think I just get eager to get down to the sex. So I will give you my opinion as a reader.
I have been reading erotica for many years and tend to gravitate toward stories that have some build up but not pages of it. I want to be able to finish the story in about half an hour and move on. Some stories are great though and I will gladly read it for a couple of hours but only if it taps into my specific fantasies. I guess it just comes down to whether you want your stories to be art or porn. Also, I find myself reading longer stories if they are broken up into chapters with a nice cliffhanger.
Anyway, that's my two cents as a reader.
I have been reading erotica for many years and tend to gravitate toward stories that have some build up but not pages of it. I want to be able to finish the story in about half an hour and move on. Some stories are great though and I will gladly read it for a couple of hours but only if it taps into my specific fantasies. I guess it just comes down to whether you want your stories to be art or porn. Also, I find myself reading longer stories if they are broken up into chapters with a nice cliffhanger.
Anyway, that's my two cents as a reader.
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My opinion is that less back story is better in a short story. You can suggest the past with the right sentence or two and sketch a history in a paragraph. You don't need a lot of detail, the reader can fill it in based on their experience, real or imagined. Less will often create mystery, which will engage the reader.
Sometimes back story will drown out and dilute the actual story you are trying to tell, like melted ice in a flavored drink. Back story can end up being like too much background noise, which makes a conversation hard if not impossible to hear.
Sometimes back story will drown out and dilute the actual story you are trying to tell, like melted ice in a flavored drink. Back story can end up being like too much background noise, which makes a conversation hard if not impossible to hear.
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My opinion is that less back story is better in a short story. You can suggest the past with the right sentence or two and sketch a history in a paragraph. You don't need a lot of detail, the reader can fill it in based on their experience, real or imagined. Less will often create mystery, which will engage the reader.
Sometimes back story will drown out and dilute the actual story you are trying to tell, like melted ice in a flavored drink. Back story can end up being like too much background noise, which makes a conversation hard if not impossible to hear.
I'm beginning to see that... and draw some lines with my writing..
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I personally prefer a story with a certain amount of back story and hate stories that are just "boy meets girl", "boy and girl rent room"...
I admit, you can get carried away, but you need enough back story to tell how the characters ended up where they are now...otherwise, it isn't all that interesting...I think...
Most of my stories tend to build on previous stories, so I don't have to re-tell certain events each time I write a story...but, I've been criticized for that as well...I have to realize not everyone has read my previous stories when I post something...
I think there is no "right" answer here...whatever you feel comfortable with...
Cheers,
Alan.
I admit, you can get carried away, but you need enough back story to tell how the characters ended up where they are now...otherwise, it isn't all that interesting...I think...
Most of my stories tend to build on previous stories, so I don't have to re-tell certain events each time I write a story...but, I've been criticized for that as well...I have to realize not everyone has read my previous stories when I post something...
I think there is no "right" answer here...whatever you feel comfortable with...
Cheers,
Alan.
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I never feel backstory is a problem. I let a story go in whatever direction it needs to go, with as many details and backstory facts as necessary, and sometimes a few unnecessary, as long as the story itself continues to make sense.