The Systemic Racism (Marginalization?) Problem

Quote by Dani

Because, again, if the focus is on "racially blind" solutions, then there doesn't have to be accountability for the systemic racism. Can't fix a problem for which there's no accountability/acknowledgement.

Because they aren't trying to fix a thing, hence crossed fingers behind the back. It's just another way to be racist. It's the smug style of racism.

Quote by Ironic

If racially discriminatory approaches are illegal, why propose them?

As long as the impacts of systemic racism persist, approaches that speak directly to racism will be the most impactful in eradicating those impacts. History has already dictated that just because something's legal doesn't mean it's right, and vice versa. The centuries of chattel slavery that were the cornerstone of systemic racism still embedded in America's systems were once legal, and it was illegal for the enslaved to escape. It was once legal for anyone who wasn't a White male to be deprived of the right to vote. You're gonna have to find a stronger argument than legalities. In fact, the original post clearly states that if you can only speak from the basis of "because it's legal/illegal" you need not participate in this thread, as it undermines its intent.

Quote by Ironic

Not if we wish to live in a country governed by laws we don't.

You'll need to change the laws to permit racial discrimination first, and that's a battle You're not likely to win now in this country.

Your argument speaks more to another way of avoiding dealing with systemic racism, which is by making policies that address it illegal, providing veritable loopholes that allow for the perpetuation of systemic racism.

If it's all a lost cause as you say, what's your end goal for participating in this thread the way that you have thus far, especially being that you're the one that revived it after being dead for nearly a month?

Quote by Ironic

I don't think the social problems caused by past racism are unsolvable. I do think it makes no sense to advocate approaches that are illegal. These problems are in the real world, and that's where the solutions have to work. Proposing illegal activity is for idealists, and they're not the ones who solve real world problems.

Love that for you.

With this being said, this thread is about proposing solutions to the social problems caused by ongoing systemic racism. You have yet to propose a potential solution to addressing/eradicating the problems caused by ongoing systemic racism in America, you've only engaged in undermining those potential solutions. So, what do you propose should be be done about the issues caused by ongoing systemic racism in America?

Quote by noll

A racially blind solution to a racially driven problem makes no sense.

Exactly. A racially blind solution entirely bypasses the acknowledgement and focus on systems embedded in racism.

The real solution to systemic inequality (racism/marginalization) is systemic equality. It's not enough to remove racist policies, because those policies were impactful enough to form the basis of society's structures, policies, and patterns that are embedded in our education systems, employment, healthcare, systems of ownership, etc.

Because the problem is systemic, the solution must also be systemic, and thus can't be a band-aid of "Here's money for everyone, let's pretend the last few centuries didn't happen and everyone who's struggling is on equal footing." Policies that focus on building up communities most harmed by the legacy of systemic inequality will foster systemic equality.