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This applies to either party. The psychology is supposed to be that you have an edge when you're an incumbent. It's not a conspiracy; it's a strategy.
Quote by ElCoco
I didn't say it applied only to Democrats.
If you have an edge, it'll show in a debate.
If your own party makes you run for the job you already hold, it undermines your edge as an incumbent.
Both political conventions are going to be WILD next year. I really hope there are serious challenges to the assumed candidates in both parties, and the parties will allow dissenting voices to be heard.
Tintinnabulation - first place (Free Spirit)
Comet Q - second place (Quick and Risqué Sex)
Amnesia - third place (Le Noir Erotique)
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I'm sure the DNC and Biden's campaign has a reason for shutting down debate within their party, and your explanation might be the one.
What I said was the fix is in.
OK. So, what are you implying when you say that? The term "the fix is in" means dishonestly controlling a contest. A party deciding who it's going to put its support behind isn't that.
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Marianne Williamson’s not as young as Kennedy or Newsome, but she’s the only woman who’s declared so far, and she lives in your state.
Yes, I'll have to look into what changes she'll like to implement cause Dems are always talking about immigration reform, and they need a new song.
Honestly, unless Trump gets the GOP nomination, the Democrat candidate, Biden or whoever, will probably lose. So, Democrats will probably be hoping for a match up against Trump.
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If you change "dishonestly" to "unfairly," we'll be good.
Not a fan of a two-party system?
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Why would you ask that? I think having an open and honest debate is good for our political system.
What's your opinion about that?
Because, for better or worse, that's how a two-party system works.
You'll see debates, but for president, they will be between Republican candidates in the primaries and Democratic/Republican in the generals.
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The guy's losing it. President Biden closed a speech on gun violence with the phrase ‘God Save the Queen.’
Too bad the 'other guy' never had it in the first place.
=== Not ALL LIVES MATTER until BLACK LIVES MATTER ===
I try to stay away from subjects like this, especially on a forum, because it never turns out good. Regardless of your personal choices and beliefs we are each entitled to our opinion/vote. Just because you may not agree with me does not make you an idiot, or vice versa. I would love to see a return to the day where people could honestly and openly debate an issue without the rhetoric. In almost every case, debate opens news ideas and views on how to accomplish things. So let's be open and be able to debate.
With that being said, I do fear Joe Biden's ability and effectiveness is slipping away.
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A Secret Service agent discovered a white powder in the library of the residential portion of the White House. The White House was briefly evacuated, and people in hazmat suits removed the powder. It could have been anthrax, after all. But it turned out to be cocaine. And it was in the president’s residence, not the public areas of the White House.
No, it was in the West Wing, which is attached to the residence, but also where hundreds of staffers work.
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A Secret Service agent discovered a white powder in the library of the residential portion of the White House. The White House was briefly evacuated, and people in hazmat suits removed the powder. It could have been anthrax, after all. But it turned out to be cocaine. And it was in the president’s residence, not the public areas of the White House.
Just so we're clear, what we can agree on is that that you misrepresented where the drug was found, then doubled down on it so...what? We would all think it was Hunter, rather than a staffer that works 20 hours days. Or possibly a visitor, since that's where they leave their cell phones. Nice.
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There's no real debate about cocaine being found in the White House, is there?
I'm disputing ElCoco's post where he says twice that it's in the residential portion of the white house, clearly intended to point a finger at the Bidens.
The truth is that it was found where staffers work and also a place accessible to visitors on tour.
I don't think that finding cocaine somewhere staffed by approximately 1800 people is the bombshell ironic is making it out to be. My guess is it probably belonged to some low-level errand boy or a visitor, and I doubt it has any baring on whether or not Biden should run again.
As to the original question - I wouldn't have run Biden the first time. The democrats have this uncanny ability to shoot themselves in the foot whenever they approach a lay-up. Biden is plain white toast - no butter. That seemed kind of refreshing after the shit-sandwich Trump served up during his term. But no, Biden not a great candidate, nor a great president. He's just an uninspiring middle-of-the-road upholder of the status-quo. In short he's boring. The democrats can do far better than boring, but I'd still prefer boring to the carnival of assholes coming together on the right.
Don't believe everything that you read.
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I'll be voting for Kennedy. He's not infirm like President Biden is. Joe Biden's Eight Biggest Gaffes This Year (newsweek.com)
This Kennedy is not to be confused or conflated with his much more famous father and uncle.
Also, a recovering economy generally assists the incumbent. This news probably flattens a few Republican attacks over the next 16 months.
Check with me on November 6, 2024 as to how badly Biden's lost support from those who voted for him rather than more Trump - in 2020.
We've had to endure two economic comebacks in the last 14 years... the GOP / Bush market crash of 2008 which threatened the worlds biggest depression - guided out of that wilderness by Obama and the Democrats and more recently the Ttrump recession of 2018-2020 - thanks to that multiple dollar tax cut the GQP rammed through congress in December 2017.
Democrats are always bailing the country out of trouble caused by GQP. Then they get lambasted by the same GQP for not doing more for the country.
The only people who I have seen support Kennedy are republicans... and Ironic.
Hilarious.
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I don't think that finding cocaine somewhere staffed by approximately 1800 people is the bombshell ironic is making it out to be. My guess is it probably belonged to some low-level errand boy or a visitor, and I doubt it has any baring on whether or not Biden should run again.
As to the original question - I wouldn't have run Biden the first time. The democrats have this uncanny ability to shoot themselves in the foot whenever they approach a lay-up. Biden is plain white toast - no butter. That seemed kind of refreshing after the shit-sandwich Trump served up during his term. But no, Biden not a great candidate, nor a great president. He's just an uninspiring middle-of-the-road upholder of the status-quo. In short he's boring. The democrats can do far better than boring, but I'd still prefer boring to the carnival of assholes coming together on the right.
I would have voted for anyone to get Trump out, honestly. Biden was not my favorite choice. Not only is he boring, but he's old, a gaffe machine, and I disagree with him on a couple of issues that are important to me. You're right; the democrats can do better but as long as Republicans keep putting up the people they do, they won't be getting my vote.
Hmmm, Mike Pence is even now - supporting Biden. That can't make some of you very happy.
https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-ukraine/
“So I’m a guy who believes in that old Reagan doctrine,” Pence said.
“If you’re willing to fight the enemies of the United States on your soil, we’ll give you the means to fight them there so our men and women in uniform don’t have to fight them. And I’m going to continue to be a voice for that in this campaign and all across this country.”
The former vice president, who last week made a surprise visit to Ukraine and has broken with some in his party over his support for U.S. aid for the Eastern European nation, raised the possibility of American troops fighting Russia during an appearance on the conservative Hugh Hewitt Show.
He said he views Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as “evil,” and said it’s in America’s vital interests to stop the Russian leader from advancing deeper into Europe.
He said during his visit to Ukraine he visited the city of Bucha, the site of some of worst atrocities Europe has seen since World War II at the hands of Putin’s troops, who according to some accounts opened fire on hundreds of civilians including women and children.
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I'm disputing ElCoco's post where he says twice that it's in the residential portion of the white house, clearly intended to point a finger at the Bidens.
The truth is that it was found where staffers work and also a place accessible to visitors on tour.
"The small amount of cocaine was found in a cubby area for storing electronics within the West Exec basement entryway into the West Wing, where many people have authorized access, including staff or visitors coming in for West Wing tours."
Republicans grasping at straws like they always do.
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"The small amount of cocaine was found in a cubby area for storing electronics within the West Exec basement entryway into the West Wing, where many people have authorized access, including staff or visitors coming in for West Wing tours."
Republicans grasping at straws like they always do.
Because nobody cares about fucking cocaine, unless it's prostitute and drug fueled party in the residence, so that's why Republicans try to make it sound like that. Not that you need me to tell you that.
OMG! Someone's doing coke? i bet there are peep smoking the evil maryjane too, gosh darn!
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
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The latest from Operation Dump Biden, from Walter Shapiro in The New Republic: Biden Can’t Hide From the Media Forever
I expected something much less charitable from this article, but it basically says that nobody knows how well Biden is doing because he's boring and doesn't have a brand. He gives a speech and nobody remembers. He presides over the creation of 13 million new jobs and less than 4% unemployment and nobody can name anything he's done.
Of course, Trump was anything but boring and definitely had a brand but was a terrible leader.
What do you think? Does he need to find a way to brand himself as something besides an old man in advanced stages of invisibility? Will it be the reason he loses, if he does, in 2024?
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Now that a suspect has been named, Hunter could also be facing federal sex trafficking charges. Probably not, but it could happen.
I guess my question is, who cares?
Good parents can end up with troubled kids. That happens at the presidential level and the ditch digging level.
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I would have voted for anyone to get Trump out, honestly. Biden was not my favorite choice. Not only is he boring, but he's old, a gaffe machine, and I disagree with him on a couple of issues that are important to me. You're right; the democrats can do better but as long as Republicans keep putting up the people they do, they won't be getting my vote.
That's exactly the problem. The Republican candidates are so unacceptable to the Democrat base, that the party can count on their vote no matter who runs. They get too comfortable and become sluggish. So, they keep putting up mediocre candidates because they expect an easy path to victory. It's part of the reason we ended up with Trump in the first place- Clinton had no shot against him and shouldn't have been allowed within 50 yards of the candidacy - but they turned an easy victory over a chaotic right into an actual battle, which they then lost. One thing that can be said of the Right in general is that they have a sense of momentum behind them - they're going in the wrong direction, but at least they're headed somewhere. Post-Obama, Democrats have seemed to muzzle their progressive elements and instead become mired in upholding the status quo. The base of each party is mostly safe (that's why they're the base), but elections aren't won by bases, they're won by 'undecideds' and 'swing-voters' - those without party loyalty, and Democrats need to offer something more interesting to sway those voters.
None of which is to say that any of the candidates would actually make a great leader. I sometimes think that the primary aim of the American political process is to generate revenue for marketers and advertisers with little interest in the actual results after election day. On the basis of marketability alone, Trump is the better product, the easier sell - he has the shinier packaging and makes the best claims - really I know people who make claims and they all say Trump's claims are the absolute greatest they've ever seen, really fantastic amazing claims, the best. Of the two, Biden is unquestionably the one I'd prefer to lead the country, but that doesn't make him any more exciting to cast a ballot for, and if isn't fun, many 'undecided' Americans simply won't do it.
Don't believe everything that you read.
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Ditch diggers aren't trying to get reelected.
Neither is Hunter.
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That's exactly the problem. The Republican candidates are so unacceptable to the Democrat base, that the party can count on their vote no matter who runs. They get too comfortable and become sluggish. So, they keep putting up mediocre candidates because they expect an easy path to victory. It's part of the reason we ended up with Trump in the first place- Clinton had no shot against him and shouldn't have been allowed within 50 yards of the candidacy - but they turned an easy victory over a chaotic right into an actual battle, which they then lost. One thing that can be said of the Right in general is that they have a sense of momentum behind them - they're going in the wrong direction, but at least they're headed somewhere. Post-Obama, Democrats have seemed to muzzle their progressive elements and instead become mired in upholding the status quo. The base of each party is mostly safe (that's why they're the base), but elections aren't won by bases, they're won by 'undecideds' and 'swing-voters' - those without party loyalty, and Democrats need to offer something more interesting to sway those voters.
None of which is to say that any of the candidates would actually make a great leader. I sometimes think that the primary aim of the American political process is to generate revenue for marketers and advertisers with little interest in the actual results after election day. On the basis of marketability alone, Trump is the better product, the easier sell - he has the shinier packaging and makes the best claims - really I know people who make claims and they all say Trump's claims are the absolute greatest they've ever seen, really fantastic amazing claims, the best. Of the two, Biden is unquestionably the one I'd prefer to lead the country, but that doesn't make him any more exciting to cast a ballot for, and if isn't fun, many 'undecided' Americans simply won't do it.
Campaigning for president and being the president requires two different skill sets and rare is the person who is good at both. Love him or hate him, I think anyone who says that Trump isn't a good campaigner is lying to themselves. Somehow, and I can't begin to guess how, he got swing voters in battleground states in 2016.
I think part of the reason why Democrats have tried to muzzle their progressive wing is to be more appealing to swing voters. Take student loan forgiveness, which I would consider a progressive idea. Democrats love it. Republicans hate it. The problem is that about half of Independents hate it, too, and only about a third love it.
Do Republicans have this problem? Eliminating abortion seems pretty extreme to me if they're trying to earn swing voters but they've run on it for 50 years. Now that they made good on that promise, they had a tough midterm, but I don't think there will be much in the way of long term consequences.
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His Dad is.
Yes. So?
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So people will vote for the other guy.
Do you think that's true or hope it is?
Presidents have problematic family members all the time. Ronald Reagan daughter posed in Playboy and opposed nuclear proliferation. George HW Bush had this embarrassing son that did cocaine and slept around a lot.....
If Joe isn't reelected, Hunter isn't going to have anything to do with it.
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If the administration thought finding cocaine in the White House wasn't a big deal, it would treat it like it wasn't a big deal. But it's gone to some effort to give everybody the impression it was somebody else.
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Do you think that's true, or afraid it would?
By pointing out the cocaine was found in a public place?
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MSNBC has an update on the location of the cocaine baggie found in the White House. “Multiple officials” are now claiming the cocaine was found near the West Executive entrance “in a much more secure place … near the Situation Room” and next to “where, for example, the vice president’s vehicle is parked.”
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The list of possible perpetrators has narrowed, but I'll bet the case will prove to be beyond the capacity of the Secret Service to solve.
The sources maintain that the area is highly trafficked, in keeping with Jean-Pierre's characterization Wednesday. The area is transited by VIPs, visitors, tourists, staff members, military officials and facilities operations employees.
Why do you need this to be a Biden family problem so badly?
Quote by AngelEthics
Because nobody cares about fucking cocaine, unless it's prostitute and drug fueled party in the residence, so that's why Republicans try to make it sound like that. Not that you need me to tell you that.
My toxic trait is definitely voting for the person who did that in the White House if I could vote.
To be fair I don’t care if Biden is snorting mounds of coke he’s just not all there anymore from what I have seen online. He comes across as senile in the foreign press.
