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lol "they made it political" by including a person.
You Do know that Han Solo was nearly black in 1977, but George Lucas thought that would be... too political, right?
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Political for who?
Too political for the people he was hoping would buy tickets to his movie. He was worried about limiting the success of his own product. There's nothing controversial about hating an Imperialist regime that sprung out of a Republic (at least in 1977) but putting a white Leia and a black Han in a romantic situation was.
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Too political for the people he was hoping would buy tickets to his movie. He was worried about limiting the success of his own product. There's nothing controversial about hating an Imperialist regime that sprung out of a Republic (at least in 1977) but putting a white Leia and a black Han in a romantic situation was.
Just odd, like I never think "wow this is political" when I see a black person or a woman on screen.
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Just odd, like I never think "wow this is political" when I see a black person or a woman on screen.
I hope humanity is moving towards having having more people with your mindset and fewer with Kid Rock's.
Political isn't always bad, either. I think that the choice to have the Little Mermaid represented by a black actor was both political and a good choice.
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It's hard for businesses to avoid making expensive mistakes in the current political climate. Modelo Especial is now "the number one" beer in America, its U.S. distributor has said, after sales data showed it outsold longtime industry leader Bud Light in recent weeks.
With activists around every corner, almost any business decision can lead to problems.
Apparently your lessons are not being taken to heart by Farmer's Insurance Company AND 3 other major insurance companies. Now insurance companies are 'too woke'.
'Bud Light of insurance’: Florida official blames insurer crisis on wokeness
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I hope humanity is moving towards having having more people with your mindset and fewer with Kid Rock's.
Political isn't always bad, either. I think that the choice to have the Little Mermaid represented by a black actor was both political and a good choice.
I don't think you understand... Why is it "political" to you that they made the little mermaid black?
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I don't think you understand... Why is it "political" to you that they made the little mermaid black?
This is my reasoning: it's political because the decision wasn't made based on what was going to make them the most money. It was either based on (cynically) making them look like they care about diversity or (non-cynically) that they really want black and brown children see themselves represented in these classic stories. Would those children watch a movie with a white Ariel? They already have. Are they expanding who they are selling tickets to by doing this? I doubt it. That's what makes it political to me.
Do you think I'm wrong to think so?
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This is my reasoning: it's political because the decision wasn't made based on what was going to make them the most money. It was either based on (cynically) making them look like they care about diversity or (non-cynically) that they really want black and brown children see themselves represented in these classic stories. Would those children watch a movie with a white Ariel? They already have. Are they expanding who they are selling tickets to by doing this? I doubt it. That's what makes it political to me.
Do you think I'm wrong to think so?
lol
So whenever there is a black person in a movie it must be some kind of affirmative action thing to make black people feel better about themselves? Because movie studios aren't in the business of making money they are in the business of forcing diversity? How many black people is the max that can be in a movie so it's not "political"?
Doesn't the story take place in the Caribbean anyway? In the original story the mermaid doesn't even have a name..
When they cast and an Irish guy as Alexander the great was that to make Irish people feel included? Or is that different?
What about Thor? The actor is Australian but the character is supposed from Scandinavian mythology.
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lol
So whenever there is a black person in a movie it must be some kind of affirmative action thing to make black people feel better about themselves? Because movie studios aren't in the business of making money they are in the business of forcing diversity? How many black people is the max that can be in a movie so it's not "political"?
Doesn't the story take place in the Caribbean anyway? In the original story the mermaid doesn't even have a name..
When they cast and an Irish guy as Alexander the great was that to make Irish people feel included? Or is that different?
What about Thor? The actor is Australian but the character is supposed from Scandinavian mythology.
The Little Mermaid is a Dutch story and in the original version, she is described as having a "rose-leaf complexion" and blue eyes. Disney decided to go with a white Aerial in the 80's despite setting it in the Caribbean, then changed the ethnicity for the live action version. Do think they did that because they thought they were going to make more money?
Why did Mel Gibson play William Wallace? Because he had box office draw at the time. I would imagine Colin Ferrell and Chris Hemsworth were cast for the same reasons.
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The Little Mermaid is a Dutch story and in the original version, she is described as having a "rose-leaf complexion" and blue eyes.
It's Danish, not Dutch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid
=== Not ALL LIVES MATTER until BLACK LIVES MATTER ===
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It's Danish, not Dutch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid
Danish always makes me think of a pastry. Dutch always makes me think of a date where both people pay their own way .
Bud Light's strength is that it is a cheap and weaker tasting beer. It has a lot if competition in that category. Taking a high profile political stance will always create controversy and possibly lose sales in a nation where the two major sides are so equally matched in size. And where there are only two real political parties, and they are hopelessly divided with a gulf between them.
The conservatives reaction is really not different to liberals reaction to Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A. The difference is that Hobby Lobby and especially Chik-fil-A had and have stronger brand loyalty with their customers. They both have made their policies known since their inception.
Many companies do extensive marketing study before attempting any possible controversial political stance. They answer to their stockholders, who can make or break them.
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The Little Mermaid is a Dutch story and in the original version, she is described as having a "rose-leaf complexion" and blue eyes. Disney decided to go with a white Aerial in the 80's despite setting it in the Caribbean, then changed the ethnicity for the live action version. Do think they did that because they thought they were going to make more money?
Why did Mel Gibson play William Wallace? Because he had box office draw at the time. I would imagine Colin Ferrell and Chris Hemsworth were cast for the same reasons.
So it's only "political" when a black person is in the movie...
Hugh Jackman was a nobody when he was cast as Wolverine... A 5'3'' Canadian character... Why isn't that "political".
And you thinking that Disney isn't in the business to make money is just silly, not sure what to even say to that. It's pure silliness to think Disney would put anything above making a profit.
The Little Mermaid (2023) has made 544 million on a budget of 250 million.
Sounds like they haven't figured out the new economy very well and are looking to cast blame everywhere except at those who are not managing very well.
Let me know when Neiman Marcus blames the pandemic, the homeless, and everything else under the sun for their declining sales.
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How's it doing now that it's out of Chapter 11?
Hell, I figured you Trump fanatics appreciated bankruptcies. How many has the Grifter in Chief filed for himself and his businesses over the last 40 years?
Makes him imminently qualified to manage and guide a dollar behemoth, doesn't it?
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Hell, I figured you Trump fanatics appreciated bankruptcies. How many has the Grifter in Chief filed for himself and his businesses over the last 40 years?
Makes him imminently qualified to manage and guide a dollar behemoth, doesn't it?
Donald Trump has declared bankruptcy 6 times.
My business has not declined at all under Biden's administration.
The economy is strong, and rebounding from Trump's China tariffs fiasco and Covid economic shut down.
Trumpers never seem to remember the Covid shutdown took place months before the 2020 election, while Trump was president.
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The owner of Gump's knows more about running a business than you do.
https://sfstandard.com/2023/08/14/gumps-owner-slams-san-francisco-in-letter-downtown-crime-homeless/
He's warning that if the problems that prompted other SF businesses to leave the city, he'll make an anti-bad business decision and move Gump's out of the city too.
Is that what you want?
I don’t care if Gumps moves out, like why would I? Only people it affects is the owner and suits. Oh gee what will people do? No where else to buy overpriced trinkets.
There are homeless people in SF, the location Gumps is at isn’t great at the moment. If the place is good and the people who run it are such business experts then they should be successful elsewhere. Maybe in one of the Carolinas or like Montana or somewhere is more suited for their vision of overpriced frivolous items.
Maybe they should buy up all the housing like other companies did BUT instead of being greedy and gauging people on rent they will set it at an affordable price so that the price of housing doesn’t put people on the streets.. even if california would try to make it illegal like it is in other developed countries for Zillow to buy up all the housing it would be seen as some government socialist woke overreach by republicans.
A ceo of a place like Gumps should know how capitalism works… hard to feel sorry for a business that sells crap at an extreme markup.
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And the real estate tax reduction on another empty building, and the lost tax on the ex-employee income(s).
Damn, San Francisco is going to have to lay off half of the city now that they aren’t getting that Gump payday. And no one else will be able to use the building for a store or service that people actually want/need.
Vote Republican.
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Bud Light continues to be an anchor. Anheuser-Busch’s US marketing chief is stepping down as Bud Light sales sink Sales to US retailers declined nearly 17% “primarily due to the volume decline of Bud Light.”
Are you still trying to connect this to a supposed boycott by rednecks over some trans controversy? If not, what is your actual point?
Don't believe everything that you read.
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Are you still trying to connect this to a supposed boycott by rednecks over some trans controversy? If not, what is your actual point?
It seems there isn't one. The whole "here's a link with nothing else because using my words and contributing to the conversation is hard" schtick has gotten beyond old. People either need to use their words, or post elsewhere. The Think Tank is for dialogue, not mindless link-farming.
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