Affirmative Action in Action

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They've begun.

EXCLUSIVE: California’s Largest School District Slapped With Complaint Over ‘Black Student Achievement Plan’ (msn.com)

Will that be when yall rightwingers start loading them on railroad cars headed for concentration camps?

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Will that be when yall rightwingers start loading them on railroad cars headed for concentration camps?

How would they do that though? Did you not see their coup attempt? It was the most flaccid coup attempt ever.

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... chuckling ... Loading who? Heading where?

Remember (if you were ever aware) which justices voted to retain racial discrimination college admissions and which justices did not.

Next we need to get rid of 4-H programs. Do you have any idea how many hogs have been slaughtered as a result?

It's not right.

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Does Felix have an itch to slaughter hogs?

I got over 6 bucks a pound for my hogs when I was a kid... in the 90's. My hogs made great sausage, so yes.

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... just not the U.S. Constitution

I excel in being a real American, you don't.

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... chuckling ... You might even believe that.

What makes you American?

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Affirmative Action!

During the American revolution you would have sided with the British over a piece of paper.

Nothing American about you.

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I am opposed to racial discrimination. Are you?

You would have thrown rocks at the Irish, I would have given them bread and a job.

That much is clear. You can't even say what makes you American.. lol

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So are the facts of affirmative action. He faked being black to get into medical school.

 

yawn

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I hope to read your reply tomorrow.

Good night Felix.

Goodnight hog.

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Why do you support racial discrimination?

Why do you support continuation of second class citizenry?

Why can't you operate with just one Lush account?

It's funny how folks here try to make affirmative action sound evil by repeating 'racial discrimination'. The fact though is that affirmative action was to somewhat undo the inequalities that are the result on centuries of racial discrimination. Apparently the folks who think affirmative action is evil, because racial discrimination, have no issue with the results of previous centuries of racial discrimination.

Pathetic, and revealing.

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It's sad, pathetic, and revealing to see there are people who still defend official racial discrimination.

If it's intended to undo historical injustice, then yes, by all means.

Affirmative action was an attempt to counter the racial discriminatory context of society. Apparently you were okay with that context though. Probably because it's your privilege and you're not willing to share that privilege.

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It's sad, pathetic, and revealing to see there are people who still defend official racial discrimination.

It's sad, pathetic, and revealing that your only means of making this statement is to do so by removing the context of bridging gaps caused by centuries of systemic racism.

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It's sad, pathetic, and revealing to see there are people who still defend official racial discrimination.

Your attempt to hide rightwing racism is actually pathetic. It is so easy to see through this narrative.

Really, anyone who denies Affirmative Action was enacted to reverse centuries of extreme racist policies based on white supremqcy, IS a liar and a racist bigot.

No doubt, rightwing white supremecists are the driving force to overturn Affinative Action. They are only too happy to stop progress toward racial equality. In fact, l'm sure they'd be happy to bring back Jim Crow laws to push Black, Brown, and Asian Americans back into second class citizenry.... bring back sundown laws.

Yep, Ironic and your rightwing multi-personality buddy would love to "make 'em have to use the back door" again.

Let's see which bigots take issue with this. Bring it on white power racists. Show your ugly mugs!

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The SCOTUS anti-discrimination decisions have revitalized the movement to achieve equal justice for all Americans. On Thursday, thirteen state Attorneys General sent a letter to Fortune 100 CEOs, warning them against engaging in race discrimination.

 

We, the undersigned Attorneys General of 13 States, write to remind you of yourobligations as an employer under federal and state law to refrain from discriminating onthe basis of race, whether under the label of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” orotherwise. Treating people differently because of the color of their skin, even for benignpurposes, is unlawful and wrong. Companies that engage in racial discrimination shouldand will face serious legal consequences.

 

The letter cites instances where it has been publicly reported that big companies have engaged in race discrimination. This is something many large companies in America are proud of. It is, however, illegal:

 

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits racial discrimination in employment. It provides that “[i]t shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer (1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;” or “(2) to limit, segregate, or classify his employees or applicants for employment in any way which would deprive or tend to deprive any individual of employment opportunities or otherwise adversely affect his status as an employee, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.” 42 U.S.C. 2000e- 2(a). 

 

Many companies violate this law. They do so because they think they are engaging in “good” race discrimination and above the law. The AGs end their letter with the following:

 

We urge you to immediately cease any unlawful race-based quotas or preferences your company has adopted for its employment and contracting practices. If you choose not to do so, know that you will be held accountable—sooner rather than later—for your decision to continue treating people differently because of the color of their skin.

I hope the states that are in pro-Constitution and anti-discrimination hands follow through on this promise.

 

Anyone who is interested can view this document on Scribd

 

The fact that benign purposes are considered wrong is telling about those who are pushing this, I guess

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It will require time and effort to ever so slowly expunge the racial discrimination in our country. We have miles to go before we sleep, and there will be bumps in that road, but the goal is worth the effort.

You're so full of shit. The new rightwing racist bigot control of SCOTUS is right up you alley. You and your other personalities here are reveling in the chance to keep Black Americans and other minorities from making progress to real equality.

I bet you get a very rare hard on just thinking about the possible return of Jim Crow laws and squashing minorities right to vote.

We so easily see through your rhetoric and false narrative. Just be honest and wave your Confederate flag. I'd respect that a lot more than your double speak. And seriously, it may work on the weak minded, like your chummy bud, but the milky transparency of it screams out loud to the rest of us.

The audacity to post easy to see through sanctimonious bullshit just exposes the rightwing for the white supremecists that they are.

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Can you provide examples of what you're talking about when you call people here in the TT white supremacists, particularly me? You seem to be lumping me in with that group, and I'm not sure why you're doing that. To be honest, I don't see anything anybody's posted to justify that nastiness.

Did l call you a racist? I was quite generic, yet, you're the one responding. That's on you.

Lush readers can read through these threads and decide for themselves who is in the side of racism and bigotry.

But helping people to become equal first class citizens after centuries of racial abuse, slavery, discrimination, persecution, deprivations, injustice, etc. because they are not white is not racism.

The majority of SCOTUS being racist is not new in American history.

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The road to Hell is paved with Good Intentions.

Examples are available on request.

Actually, it is not. It's paved on rejection.

I will not argue theology here, but you can read up on it in your free time. Choose carefully which road you take.

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Yes, you have. In your reply to me, you said, "Your attempt to hide rightwing racism is actually pathetic. It is so easy to see through this narrative."

You say stuff that's not true. Why?

You support the bigotry of the racist majority of SCOTUS, so, yeah, l believe it to be true.

Destroying Affirmative Action well before it has accomplished its humanitarian effort to make the races equal is, no doubt, a result of rightwing white power.

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First, you say I'm racist because I think the court was right to rule against racial discrimination.

Next, you act all innocent with your "Did l call you a racist? I was quite generic, yet, you're the one responding. That's on you.".

Then, when I rub your face in your original statement, you revert to calling me a racist.

You're a confused little man.

No, l'm quite sure about you.

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Since I just documented you reversing yourself about me you're still a confused little man.

But the subject is Affirmative Action. Obviously, from your gloating over its' demise, you do not support making things right and helping Black Americans and minorities gain equal first class citizenship with whites. I believe that makes you a very little man.

Keeping minorities suppressed underfoot must be your version of racial justice. Certainly not mine. Just in case you are confused.

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First, you say I'm racist because I think the court was right to rule against racial discrimination.

Next, you act all innocent with your "Did l call you a racist? I was quite generic, yet, you're the one responding. That's on you.".

Then, when I rub your face in your original statement, you revert to calling me a racist.

You're a confused little man.

What does the term 'woke' - mean, to you. Elaborate with particular specificity.

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions, is a proverb. A common meaning of the phrase is that wrongdoings or evil actions are often undertaken with good intentions, in this instance, practicing racial discrimination for “good” reasons.

Again, portraying attempts to restore equality after centuries of inequality as wrongdoing or evil action is quite telling.

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I'm not like you.

You say this as if it's not a compliment.

"I'm not like you," said the troll who needs multiple iterations of themselves to reinforce the rhetoric that measures that address racial disparities are on par with actual systemic racism/discrimination, while also going out of their way to ignore racial disparities.

You (from whatever account you choose at any given moment): I'm against racial discrimination and I'm glad that a measure that was created with the intent of bridging gaps caused by systemic racism but statistically benefitted White women the most, was done away with.

For someone who touts how much they hate discrimination and loves justice, I have yet to see you champion anything that supports minorities. Maybe if you lost the boner for conflating programs that try to undo the damage of generations of systemic racism with actual racism (and also the multiple accounts, seriously, that shit has gotten old. Everyone knows you're doing it. It's embarrassing and not even fun to make fun of anymore), then maybe you wouldn't be seen as someone who's okay with racism.

If Affirmative Action is bad, how do you (and your other iterations) think the stain of systemic racism and its ongoing impact should be addressed in the US?

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And I'm not even going to waste my time debating racial discrimination with you.

I've said racial discrimination is bad, and I'm against it.

Other posters here disagree with me, so I guess they support racial discrimination.

I'm not like them.

And I'm just me, so you should drop the multiple accounts accusations

A moderator's comments (multiple moderators actually) which refer to Lush members who are running multiple accounts, posing as differing personalities and making the incendiary comments you and your multiple accounts have been blathering for the last several years - are a bit more important & immediately more credible than if just a mere Lush member like myself or Noll or FuckMeSideways has made similar claims.

Do you have any idea how much the moderator team is aware of on their site or are you always this clueless about a wide range of topics?

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Since I only have one account, I don't have to worry about you parroting what somebody else said about me. I'm not ashamed to say I reject the idea of using racially discriminating policies for admission into college, hiring, or firing. It's wrong.

But you don't seem to mind that certain parts of the population still suffer from centuries of racial discrimination. Or maybe you simply don't acknowledge that that's even the case.

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Where did I ever say I don't mind the results of past racial discrimination? I hope you're not saying like Buz has, that because I support the Court's decision baring racial discrimination that somehow I'm a racist bigot.

I'm saying that "you don't seem to mind that certain parts of the population still suffer from centuries of racial discrimination. Or maybe you simply don't acknowledge that that's even the case."

Maybe you can clear some things up:

1. Do you acknowledge that certain parts of the population still suffer from centuries of racial discrimination?
If so,
2. …do you mind that such suffering is still going on?
If so,
3. …what should be done about it, if not through some form of Affirmative Action?