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what does it mean to be american??

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first of all i'm not attacking america before everyone loses it... i just want to ask a simple question. How come everyone is so proud to be american but when asked what they are ye say irish, italian and so on..... i'm from ireland and moved here i recently went to an irish american event hoping to meet people from home... not one person out of the 200 people there were actually irish and only 3 were second generation.... i find it strange.. it's a very proud country but heritage seems more important than nationality sometimes.. Or am i wrong??
Being a Greek American, I know what you're talking about. I go to "Greek" events, start speaking Greek and I get the RCA dog. Head to the side, blank stare. I find sometimes, people say they are this and that for effect, without any of the true essence of what it means to be from that place.
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first of all i'm not attacking america before everyone loses it... i just want to ask a simple question. How come everyone is so proud to be american but when asked what they are ye say irish, italian and so on..... i'm from ireland and moved here i recently went to an irish american event hoping to meet people from home... not one person out of the 200 people there were actually irish and only 3 were second generation.... i find it strange.. it's a very proud country but heritage seems more important than nationality sometimes.. Or am i wrong??


Everyone is proud to be American because most people are proud to be whatever nationality they are. There is no such thing as looking American but the more ignorant of us think that there is. So if you are black, for example, most would say African-American. It's not that heritage is more important than nationality, it's more about identifying yourself. America is all immigrants unless you are native american. So if I'm talking to someone online and they ask me what do you look like, I'm not going to say I'm an american with brown skin and dark hair. I'm going to say that I am Mexican-American then go from there. Plus I'm first generation so it would be weird I think for me to walk around saying, "I'm American not mexican, get that shit straight everyone!"
Mexico is part of America, yeah?



So, Magical_felix ... If you and I got together ... Would I be considered part Mexican by injection?
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Mexico is part of America, yeah?



So, Magical_felix ... If you and I got together ... Would I be considered part Mexican by injection?


You'd be about 16.5 inches mexican. Something like that, I'm shitty at math.
Well, we got the USA, Canada & Mexico. three large nations that are located on North America. And they each have independent and wonderful cultures!!! Then you've got Central America and South America. I'd say we're kind of diverse. Hell, we are diverse in just the USA alone.

Myself I am from the USA, the South. I am a flag waving love my country citizen of the USA, hamburger eating, love country and rock music, baseball and real "tackle" football!!!

I really like it that when there is a huge disaster anywhere in the world, the USA send more help, more money, more supplies, more food than anyone else. We set up donation centers and blood drives, you name it, lots of people here live to help!
Over 200 years ago, our Founding Fathers shook off the chains of tyranny from Great Britain, and with the Declaration of Independence, the United States of America was born: “When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political bands which have connected them with another…We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable right, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

e pluribus unum Latin for "Out of many, one"

I think each person that is a citizen, naturalized as well as native here will have different thoughts on what it means. We're all different but all united in the love of what our country means to us.
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Over 200 years ago, our Founding Fathers shook off the chains of tyranny from Great Britain


That's when it all started to go wrong isn't it?
Just kidding!
You crack me up.
We're all proud to be Americans because we have plenty to be proud of. Our Founding Fathers risked everything they had in the fight for freedom from oppressive government. When they wrote, "Our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor", they meant it. They knew that they could be summarily hanged in the village square by the British military on a whim, if the local Governor wished it. Since then, our freedoms have been preciously guarded and defended by rough men standing ready to do violence upon any who threatened it. Eleanor Roosevelt (wife or President Roosevelt) once remarked, “The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!”

We may have different ideas on how our country should be run, and who should be in charge, but there's one thing we're all certain of: that we're all Americans, through to the bone. And why shouldn't we be proud? Yakov Smirnoff once remarked, "You can go to France, and never become French. You can go to Italy and never become Italian. But you can come to America, and become American. And for that I am forever grateful." Yes, some people like to identify with a part of life their ancestors lived. I have German and Norwegian ancestors, and Swedish and Irish. If I looked hard enough I could find cousins living in those places. I like to identify in small part with the cultures and lives my grandparents lived. Who they were makes up a part of who I am. But I'll never forget that they left their homes to come here, and make better lives for themselves. And I'll never forget that above all else, I'm American.
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I really like it that when there is a huge disaster anywhere in the world, the USA send more help, more money, more supplies, more food than anyone else. We set up donation centers and blood drives, you name it, lots of people here live to help!


Really can you honestly say that? I would actually care to interject here, other countries have supported HUGE disasters more than the US of A. Please be kind and don't think that countries that Germany, China, France and Canada (among others) can not and do not contribute more than your blessed country...We are all out there to help the world and to say that is a little closed minded don't you think?
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Well, I would have to say, being able to do what were doing right now. Posting on a website, reading erotica. Being able to go to church on Sunday and worship to any God we please. Being free, not under anyones rule. Being able to enjoy life to the fullist. Being able to post things on sites like this as well as others, wether it pisses other folks off or not. America, it's the best country in the world. Just think back until WWII when women built airplanes for men to fly to way. When women flew the planes to the men so they could. They made guns, tanks, and supported the men to no end.

Where everyone has the freedon to do what they want. Red, yellow, black, white, their all precious to OUR site.

I love this countruy and I hope you do too.


Well that's just my opinion, sorry if you don't like.

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Mexico is part of America, yeah?



So, Magical_felix ... If you and I got together ... Would I be considered part Mexican by injection?


In your case love, yes
Well that's just my opinion, sorry if you don't like.

BigDaddyRich
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Mexico is part of America, yeah?



So, Magical_felix ... If you and I got together ... Would I be considered part Mexican by injection?


In your case love, yes
Well that's just my opinion, sorry if you don't like.

BigDaddyRich
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Mexico is part of America, yeah?



So, Magical_felix ... If you and I got together ... Would I be considered part Mexican by injection?


In your case love, yes
Well that's just my opinion, sorry if you don't like.

BigDaddyRich
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I really like it that when there is a huge disaster anywhere in the world, the USA send more help, more money, more supplies, more food than anyone else. We set up donation centers and blood drives, you name it, lots of people here live to help!


Really can you honestly say that? I would actually care to interject here, other countries have supported HUGE disasters more than the US of A. Please be kind and don't think that countries that Germany, China, France and Canada (among others) can not and do not contribute more than your blessed country...We are all out there to help the world and to say that is a little closed minded don't you think?


I didn't know those countries contributed more than the US on average when it comes to worldwide disasters- where'd you read that?
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I really like it that when there is a huge disaster anywhere in the world, the USA send more help, more money, more supplies, more food than anyone else. We set up donation centers and blood drives, you name it, lots of people here live to help!


Really can you honestly say that? I would actually care to interject here, other countries have supported HUGE disasters more than the US of A. Please be kind and don't think that countries that Germany, China, France and Canada (among others) can not and do not contribute more than your blessed country...We are all out there to help the world and to say that is a little closed minded don't you think?


I didn't know those countries contributed more than the US on average when it comes to worldwide disasters- where'd you read that?


Maybe he meant combined?
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first of all i'm not attacking america before everyone loses it... i just want to ask a simple question. How come everyone is so proud to be american but when asked what they are ye say irish, italian and so on..... i'm from ireland and moved here i recently went to an irish american event hoping to meet people from home... not one person out of the 200 people there were actually irish and only 3 were second generation.... i find it strange.. it's a very proud country but heritage seems more important than nationality sometimes.. Or am i wrong??


I think for a lot of people, the 'proud to be an American' part goes without saying- I mean, otherwise, maybe they would've already moved away. People like to belong, and heritage/ethnicity is a strong, common bond between people within those groups. We've had whole threads devoted to that, and whether it's good or bad- and it's both.

As much as people preach about "we need to learn to live in a global village and identify as humans", etc., it will never happen, it's not in our nature. It's a quaint thought, but we always find ways to re-identify ourselves within smaller groups. It's both our refuge and our downfall as "global citizens."
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first of all i'm not attacking america before everyone loses it... i just want to ask a simple question. How come everyone is so proud to be american but when asked what they are ye say irish, italian and so on..... i'm from ireland and moved here i recently went to an irish american event hoping to meet people from home... not one person out of the 200 people there were actually irish and only 3 were second generation.... i find it strange.. it's a very proud country but heritage seems more important than nationality sometimes.. Or am i wrong??



I grew up in Ireland and moved to the states in 1989 and went through the process and became an American citizen. I am very proud of my heritage and visit my homeland a couple of times a year. Ireland will always be very near and dear to my heart but I have never considered myself an Irish-American I only think of myself as an American with an Irish heritage. In my own opinion, and without judging anyone else for their views, I do not believe ones homeland or heritage should go in front of the country you have pledged allegiance to. Whenever asked I answer I am American. smile
The thing I find interesting is how a lot of Americans (no, not all) seem to go round shouting about it....I don't know whether every other country in the world has less to be 'proud' of, or if we just don't feel the need to make a big song and dance about it?
i never understood why people say that either, unless they are actually from another country and have become a citizen here. to me, if you were born in america then you are american....not african american (really ive never understood that term at all since there are many black people Not descended from africa) or irish american or british american (notice you never here that term! lol!) or whatever.

that said we are a melting pot, and only a small group of us can really say we are indigenous to this country so maybe thats why we like to keep hold of the countries our ancestors came from.
The whole Hyphenated-American thing is bunkum. The whole POINT of being an AMERICAN, is that the label is supposed to have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with your race, which was a real novelty back in 1776. So by calling oneself an "African-American" or "Asian-American", one is really kind of defeating the whole purpose of BEING an American.

You're proud of your cultural heritage, that's great. I've got no problem with that. You've got Chinese blood, I'll happily celebrate Chinese New Year with ya.

On the other hand, what about AMERICA'S cultural heritage? Why can't THAT provide you with a sense of identity? Has always been enough for me...

If your sense of self relies heavily on something as irrelevant as the tiniest details of your genetic makeup, then here's the deal: you may only refer to me as a "Polish-Irish-German-English-Yugoslavian-Slovakian-Czechoslovakian-American," else I will get offended and report you to the Political Correctness Police! biggrin

That ought to keep some people's mouths busy for a while...

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