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I sure as shit never expected someone like Steve Bannon to be in the mix. it made me sick, as did just about every ultra conservative he appointed. The far right is against everything I believe in.



That was the true sucker punch to U.S. democracy. No one saw that coming. You can see Bannon's fingerprints on everything, wanting a Secretary of Education that doesn't believe in public school, a Secretary of Energy that wants the position abolished (when he can remember it), a head of the EPA who has sued it multiple times to stop its actions.

They aren't merely conservatives. They are essentially anarchists. They call themselves Libertarians, just trying to halt the size and spread of government by being "disruptors." But the glee with which they go about destroying any regulation/amendment/civil right/treaty/accord in their path shows their love of destruction for destruction's sake.
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That was the true sucker punch to U.S. democracy. No one saw that coming. You can see Bannon's fingerprints on everything, wanting a Secretary of Education that doesn't believe in public school, a Secretary of Energy that wants the position abolished (when he can remember it), a head of the EPA who has sued it multiple times to stop its actions.

They aren't merely conservatives. They are essentially anarchists. They call themselves Libertarians, just trying to halt the size and spread of government by being "disruptors." But the glee with which they go about destroying any regulation/amendment/civil right/treaty/accord in their path shows their love of destruction for destruction's sake.


Exactly right. Don't forget that Bannon called himself a Leninist with the goal of blowing up government. He is on the way to achieving his goal given the choices Trump has made for his cabinet and what he has done. They rail against the media when it reports anything negative about the administration and call it fake news, and then lie with impunity about what they are doing or have said. The media will not just shut up as advised by Bannon. But for Fox News, Breitbart, and Murdoch publications they are not the mouthpiece and lapdog of the administration as the press was in Soviet Russia. But we know how much Trump admires Putin and the power he wields.

Bannon has found the perfect empty vessel to choreograph in Trump. He is now on the National Security Council which is a policy and security group, and not a political one. The Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff was removed - an unheard of move. Trump will go along with everything so long as his ego is flattered and he gets attention. He has no appetite for the real work. There are no Cliff Notes for being president. As I have said before, I think Trump will not last a full term. He will either be caught in scandal and criminality and forced to resign (or be impeached), or he will resign for health reasons because he cannot cope.


By the way, Trump's approval rating in a new poll is 44%. That is the lowest number for a president at this point in his tenure since Eisenhower when such polling began.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/donald-trump-approval-rating/index.html
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I sure as shit never expected someone like Steve Bannon to be in the mix. it made me sick, as did just about every ultra concervitive he appointed. The far right is against everything I believe in.


As his ultra conservative VP was on the ballot with him, it can't be that much of a surprise.


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Tha sums it all up quite nicely. lol


Lest you live in the States, where you are under the rule of Trump & his "team", & have little-if-any clue who Boyle is.
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Lest you live in the States, where you are under the rule of Trump & his "team", & have little-if-any clue who Boyle is.
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Lest you live in the States, where you are under the rule of Trump & his "team", & have little-if-any clue who Boyle is.


and your point is?

You should first read this Looky Here!!

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and your point is?


Self-explanatory.

Also, taking the link again, I see it references being reincarnated as oneself... So nobody from anywhere gets the message, as the claim is impossible.
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Self-explanatory.

Also, taking the link again, I see it references being reincarnated as oneself... So nobody from anywhere gets the message, as the claim is impossible.

You seem incapable of understanding satire. Maybe you should not judge our abilities by your lack of them
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You seem incapable of understanding satire. Maybe you should not judge our abilities by your lack of them


"Things aren't always what they seem", & I know of nobody who has claimed before I appeared to have that incapability. Maybe you shouldn't claim I have an incapability to understand something simply b/c you are seeing it where there truly is none.
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"Things aren't always what they seem", & I know of nobody who has claimed before I appeared to have that incapability. Maybe you shouldn't claim I have an incapability to understand something simply b/c you are seeing it where there truly is none.
The most obvious reason for your statement, that "nobody from anywhere gets the message", would be, that you don't get Boyle's message, and therefore cannot imagine that someone else does. With your statement, you claimed factual knowledge about my ability to understand what Boyle was saying, knowledge you clearly do not have. I on the other hand, never claimed factual knowledge. I merely spoke of my impression of you, and a possibility, hence the inclusion of the words "seem" and "maybe" in my response.
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Self-explanatory.

Also, taking the link again, I see it references being reincarnated as oneself... So nobody from anywhere gets the message, as the claim is impossible.




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and then this Free stuff

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The most obvious reason for your statement, that "nobody from anywhere gets the message", would be, that you don't get Boyle's message, and therefore cannot imagine that someone else does. With your statement, you claimed factual knowledge about my ability to understand what Boyle was saying, knowledge you clearly do not have. I on the other hand, never claimed factual knowledge. I merely spoke of my impression of you, and a possibility, hence the inclusion of the words "seem" and "maybe" in my response.


There is no need/use for "most-obvious", as there is only one reason for the phrase I used you repeated, & even if there are/were more, the one you gave is certainly not one (similar to the needless extra commas in the same sentence).

Similarly, I never claimed any knowledge of your ability to do anything. However, if you wish to falsely claim I claimed it, I'll actually confess to that, given that I do (contrary to your statement) have that knowledge of your understanding &/or ability to understand based on things you said in the post/thread.

Lastly, you honestly claimed no factual knowledge of me, nor do I expect you to ever do so, as you say I "seem" something I am clearly not, as well as saying I "maybe" should not judge you/your possession of things based on my own lack of something I don't lack.
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There is no need/use for "most-obvious", as there is only one reason for the phrase I used you repeated, & even if there are/were more, the one you gave is certainly not one (similar to the needless extra commas in the same sentence).

Similarly, I never claimed any knowledge of your ability to do anything. However, if you wish to falsely claim I claimed it, I'll actually confess to that, given that I do (contrary to your statement) have that knowledge of your understanding &/or ability to understand based on things you said in the post/thread.

Lastly, you honestly claimed no factual knowledge of me, nor do I expect you to ever do so, as you say I "seem" something I am clearly not, as well as saying I "maybe" should not judge you/your possession of things based on my own lack of something I don't lack.

Why not enlighten us then, and clarify why nobody from anywhere gets the message? Saying it's self-explanatory simply is a cop-out. Prove your point, if you can.

With "nobody from anywhere gets the message" you claim to know, that everyone, including me, is not able, to get the message.

We are not talking about a piece of journalism here. It is satire, a piece, that exaggerates aspects of the truth, to make a statement about the guy, leading the country now. In spite of your statement, I do understand what Boyle is saying in that piece, I do "get the message".

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Why not enlighten us then, and clarify why nobody from anywhere gets the message? Saying it's self-explanatory simply is a cop-out. Prove your point, if you can.

With "nobody from anywhere gets the message" you claim to know, that everyone, including me, is not able, to get the message.

We are not talking about a piece of journalism here. It is satire, a piece, that exaggerates aspects of the truth, to make a statement about the guy, leading the country now. In spite of your statement, I do understand what Boyle is saying it's n that piece, I do "get the message".




You're "enlightened" enough, but explaining why would likely get me banned.

Anyhow, after a bit of back-&-forth on this, I went back & re-read the headline, and realized nobody gets the point, as the headline as it describes an impossible scenario. (I don't know that I've ever believed in reincarnation, but I've heard many real & fictional say they will/want to be "reincarnated as" something/someone else. Being the same again is against the word.)

Also, satire does not do what you are claiming it does.

I'd respond to that last part as well, but I don't understand what's "n that piece" (I literally don't know what that means, especially as part of a run-on "sentence").
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You're "enlightened" enough, but explaining why would likely get me banned.

Anyhow, after a bit of back-&-forth on this, I went back & re-read the headline, and realized nobody gets the point, as the headline as it describes an impossible scenario. (I don't know that I've ever believed in reincarnation, but I've heard many real & fictional say they will/want to be "reincarnated as" something/someone else. Being the same again is against the word.)

Also, satire does not do what you are claiming it does.

I'd respond to that last part as well, but I don't understand what's "n that piece" (I literally don't know what that means, especially as part of a run-on "sentence").

It's pretty sad, when someone is not able to back up his statement, without mentioning things that aren't allowed. Boyle's piece has no references to forbidden subjects, so the only thing that could get you banned in this context, is personal attack or insult. The fact that you'd have to resort to that, invalidates your statement.

That aside, are you saying, that nobody can get the point Boyle is making, because he refers to reincarnation, and you don't believe in that? I don't believe in reincarnation either, but I still get the message. As far as I'm concerned, an omniscient and omnipotent god as portrayed in the bible cannot exist either, yet I have no problem understanding the messages the bible conveys. I don't agree with all of them, but one doesn't have to agree with something, to understand it.
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There are many threads in this forum. Maybe you'd be happier reading one about fashion or celebrities.

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Certainly Donald Trump is not an ideal person to be president , but in my view from the presidential election , clearly the lesser of evils . For a businessman with no political experience , he should not be judged so harshly prematurely .
I recall that Bill Clinton too was very harshly criticized from the beginning . I said then " NO GOOD MAN is going to want to be president of the US " , so you Americans get what you deserve . The US is run by a cross party establishment of Wall St. , Bankers , Neocons , Lobbyists and Zionists ; the US political establishment is rotten to the core . I believe that Trump is the only person who might be able to break it up and straighten US politics out . Never mind Americans , who have little or no knowledge of what the US government does ;
The world has suffered 8 dreadful years of Bush , war in Iraq and Afghanistan all for spurious reasons and lied about . We have just ended 8 disastrous years of Obama , Lies upon Lies , Egypt's failed Arab Spring , the desolation of Libya because Gadafi wanted to sell oil for gold not the petrodollar , Proxy war in Syria set up by the CIA , because Assad refused to allow a gas pipeline Qatar to Europe to pass through Syria , regime change in Ukraine leading to civil war . The US wanted to have Ukraine join the EU , become a member of NATO , to accept US missile defenses on the Russian border , for NATO ships to occupy the port of Sevastopol Crimea in place of the Russian fleet , cutting Russia off from the Mediterranean . US foreign policy only serves the US government , war and more war to benefit the US arms industry . Nothing the US does around the world has one Iota of kindness or altruism . Trump is perhaps one person who can change that ; I want to see an end to war against Assad in Syria , an end to backing Ukraine's Kiev government and friendly relations with Russia .
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Certainly Donald Trump is not an ideal person to be president , but in my view from the presidential election , clearly the lesser of evils . For a businessman with no political experience , he should not be judged so harshly prematurely .
I recall that Bill Clinton too was very harshly criticized from the beginning . I said then " NO GOOD MAN is going to want to be president of the US " , so you Americans get what you deserve . The US is run by a cross party establishment of Wall St. , Bankers , Neocons , Lobbyists and Zionists ; the US political establishment is rotten to the core . I believe that Trump is the only person who might be able to break it up and straighten US politics out . Never mind Americans , who have little or no knowledge of what the US government does ;
The world has suffered 8 dreadful years of Bush , war in Iraq and Afghanistan all for spurious reasons and lied about . We have just ended 8 disastrous years of Obama , Lies upon Lies , Egypt's failed Arab Spring , the desolation of Libya because Gadafi wanted to sell oil for gold not the petrodollar , Proxy war in Syria set up by the CIA , because Assad refused to allow a gas pipeline Qatar to Europe to pass through Syria , regime change in Ukraine leading to civil war . The US wanted to have Ukraine join the EU , become a member of NATO , to accept US missile defenses on the Russian border , for NATO ships to occupy the port of Sevastopol Crimea in place of the Russian fleet , cutting Russia off from the Mediterranean . US foreign policy only serves the US government , war and more war to benefit the US arms industry . Nothing the US does around the world has one Iota of kindness or altruism . Trump is perhaps one person who can change that ; I want to see an end to war against Assad in Syria , an end to backing Ukraine's Kiev government and friendly relations with Russia .
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It's pretty sad, when someone is not able to back up his statement, without mentioning things that aren't allowed. Boyle's piece has no references to forbidden subjects, so the only thing that could get you banned in this context, is personal attack or insult. The fact that you'd have to resort to that, invalidates your statement.

That aside, are you saying, that nobody can get the point Boyle is making, because he refers to reincarnation, and you don't believe in that? I don't believe in reincarnation either, but I still get the message. As far as I'm concerned, an omniscient and omnipotent god as portrayed in the bible cannot exist either, yet I have no problem understanding the messages the bible conveys. I don't agree with all of them, but one doesn't have to agree with something, to understand it.


I would not be resorting to personal attacks or insult, simply statement of proven fact. However, many here (including staffers) would likely see it as the former if not both, which is why rather than "resort" to anything, I simply wish to not waste the space or time.

While we are talking about invalidating statements, however, let us refer to Boyle's. I agree it doesn't refer to any "forbidden subjects". (As an aside, I also agree with your statements regarding omnipotent persons & other things in the Bible.) However, regardless of whether or not one believes in reincarnation or even reads any of Boyle's piece, the title is this (Copied-&-Pasted): "Donald Trump: a man so obnoxious that karma may see him reincarnated as himself". Nothing will ever see anyone reincarnated as themselves!
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I would not be resorting to personal attacks or insult, simply statement of proven fact. However, many here (including staffers) would likely see it as the former if not both, which is why rather than "resort" to anything, I simply wish to not waste the space or time.

While we are talking about invalidating statements, however, let us refer to Boyle's. I agree it doesn't refer to any "forbidden subjects". (As an aside, I also agree with your statements regarding omnipotent persons & other things in the Bible.) However, regardless of whether or not one believes in reincarnation or even reads any of Boyle's piece, the title is this (Copied-&-Pasted): "Donald Trump: a man so obnoxious that karma may see him reincarnated as himself". Nothing will ever see anyone reincarnated as themselves!

I completely agree with that, nothing will. However, the fact that the title refers to an impossible scenario, does not make it impossible to understand, what Boyle wants to convey about Donald Trump with his piece. All that takes, is a little imagination and reading beyond the title. Think of what might happen if Karma and reincarnation did exist. Look at it, as hypothetical, in stead of factual. Just like we treat the phenomenon magic, when we read Harry Potter or any other fantasy story.
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