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patokl
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True, but part of the reason is that the West very quickly saw the East as nasty 'commies', even though many in the East helped to liberate the West for which they were now punished by the Soviets (for fighting with the enemy). As a Dutch person I think it's disgraceful how for instance Poland was betrayed by us. Polish soldiers helped liberate large parts of Europe only to never be able to return to their own country after the war. They were seen there as betrayers for fighting with the West and in the West they were often seen as from the Warsaw Pact after the war. It took about 5 decades before their war efforts were recognized. An absolute disgrace.

Strictly speaking Jack may not be right, but I completely understand what he means. The Europe that had won was far smaller than the Europe before WWII. It's only after the SU collapsed that Europe seems to have regained it's original size again. Not geological of course, but what it is that people refer to when they mention Europe.
I agree with all of this. What I disagreed with, was Jack's statement that America lost the second world war in Europe and that Russia was the only winner there.
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You think either of these 2 were suitable? Having said that during my lifetime you managed to get rid of 2 elected presidents for fairly mild infringements of the system -
one just for having a blow job. So get rid of this loon before he really does something embarrassing it must be possible viz my examples. Big wheel keep on turning.


If you are referring to impeachment, check the record jsck. Only 2 presidents were ever impeached (which by the way is only equivalent to being indicted), Thomas Jefferson and Bill Clinton. And neither was found guilty or removed from office. Richard Nixon was never impeached or found guilty as he resigned before the House brought his impeachment up for a vote. I do however agree with you that trump seems to have done more than enough to be brought up on charges and perhaps that will yet happen when they have the actual irrefutable evidence to make sure he doesn't some how slip through the process. I think everyday brings us closer.
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If you are referring to impeachment, check the record jsck. Only 2 presidents were ever impeached (which by the way is only equivalent to being indicted), Thomas Jefferson and Bill Clinton. And neither was found guilty or removed from office. Richard Nixon was never impeached or found guilty as he resigned before the House brought his impeachment up for a vote. I do however agree with you that trump seems to have done more than enough to be brought up on charges and perhaps that will yet happen when they have the actual irrefutable evidence to make sure he doesn't some how slip through the process. I think everyday brings us closer.


Did I say impeached I said got rid of.
Jack_42
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I agree with all of this. What I disagreed with, was Jack's statement that America lost the second world war in Europe and that Russia was the only winner there.


Could this be ironic unconscious arrogance I said Allies not America. smile And by the way this was the Soviet plan from the day they made the agreement with Hitler try studying a few of their diaries. Also the sacrifice of Easter Europe was made by Churchill and Roosevelt long before Yalta.
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Did I say impeached I said got rid of.


Nobody was "gotten rid of" either. The only president that did not finish out his term (other than by death) was Nixon, and he left voluntarily (more or less). If you didn't mean by impeachment, just what other means were you referring to?
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Nobody was "gotten rid of" either. The only president that did not finish out his term (other than by death) was Nixon, and he left voluntarily (more or less). If you didn't mean by impeachment, just what other means were you referring to?


Splitting hairs
adele
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Splitting hairs


Simply asking a question, not splitting hairs. You made a statement that simply isn't true from any perspective. If you weren't implying impeachment, how were "they" got rid of? And bottom line is no president was ever got rid of by any legal means. And as I said, only one left office before the end of his term, and he did that himself. So prove your point about which 2 presidents were got rid of, and how.
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Thomas Jefferson was never impeached. Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached by the US House of Representatives (which is an indictment) but both impeachments failed in the US Senate.

Clearly the USA and the USSR were big winners of WWII. The USA reaped great economic rewards. The Big Three, Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin did carve Europe up between the victors. Self determination and economic growth resulted for western Europe while subjugation under the Soviet Union for eastern Europe.

The Cold War resulted for decades. Eventually the Soviet Union could not keep up economically as it had previously existed and failed. However, the Cold War is not truly over. But at least eastern Europe is out from under the Russian yoke.

Russia though, is still a power and developing its economics with a mix of almost wild west capitalism and old style socialism. Russia probably has by far the biggest down deep seeded sense of nationalism of any European power. With its vast resources, Russia could eventually be even more powerful than the old Soviet Union.

Germany is reunited and Japan is an economic success.

And Fascism seems to be on the rise.

Big social changes are happening in the USA. Trump is the last hurrah of the past. Expect the future USA to be less willing to act as a world police force. Demographics of the GOP and Trump voters is on the fast decline.

Will Europe have the fortitude to keep the future Russian super power in check? And how will China play into all this?
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Thomas Jefferson was never impeached. Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were impeached by the US House of Representatives (which is an indictment) but both impeachments failed in the US Senate.

Clearly the USA and the USSR were big winners of WWII. The USA reaped great economic rewards. The Big Three, Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin did carve Europe up between the victors. Self determination and economic growth resulted for western Europe while subjugation under the Soviet Union for eastern Europe.

The Cold War resulted for decades. Eventually the Soviet Union could not keep up economically as it had previously existed and failed. However, the Cold War is not truly over. But at least eastern Europe is out from under the Russian yoke.

Russia though, is still a power and developing its economics with a mix of almost wild west capitalism and old style socialism. Russia probably has by far the biggest down deep seeded sense of nationalism of any European power. With its vast resources, Russia could eventually be even more powerful than the old Soviet Union.

Germany is reunited and Japan is an economic success.

And Fascism seems to be on the rise.

Big social changes are happening in the USA. Trump is the last hurrah of the past. Expect the future USA to be less willing to act as a world police force. Demographics of the GOP and Trump voters is on the fast decline.

Will Europe have the fortitude to keep the future Russian super power in check?


Sorry, you are correct. it was Johnson, not Jefferson... my bad. But I was correct in that neither Johnson nor Clinton were removed from office by the impeachment process, or "got rid of" by any other means, which was the point I was trying to make to jack.
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True, but part of the reason is that the West very quickly saw the East as nasty 'commies', even though many in the East helped to liberate the West for which they were now punished by the Soviets (for fighting with the enemy). As a Dutch person I think it's disgraceful how for instance Poland was betrayed by us. Polish soldiers helped liberate large parts of Europe only to never be able to return to their own country after the war. They were seen there as betrayers for fighting with the West and in the West they were often seen as from the Warsaw Pact after the war. It took about 5 decades before their war efforts were recognized. An absolute disgrace.

Strictly speaking Jack may not be right, but I completely understand what he means. The Europe that had won was far smaller than the Europe before WWII. It's only after the SU collapsed that Europe seems to have regained it's original size again. Not geological of course, but what it is that people refer to when they mention Europe.


To Stanislav Mikulovice Leader of Poland during WWII "Don't worry Stalin does not intend to take freedom from you I shall see to it that your country will not come out of this war injured. " Franklin D. Roosevelt.

The strategy of the war was dictated by Stalin even to the D day landings - Roosevelt appeased him all the time yes in real terms not bits of paper but the reality it's so obvious Russia won.
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You think either of these 2 were suitable? Having said that during my lifetime you managed to get rid of 2 elected presidents for fairly mild infringements of the system -
one just for having a blow job. So get rid of this loon before he really does something embarrassing it must be possible viz my examples. Big wheel keep on turning.


I didnt say either of these were suitable. I was just pointing out that your statement about the majority voting for Trump was incorrect. As is your statement about me "managing to get rid fo 2 eleceted presidents". Your assumption that I have a president is incorrect and you still havent explained what you were referring to by "get rid of". Cockwomble.
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Could this be ironic unconscious arrogance I said Allies not America. smile And by the way this was the Soviet plan from the day they made the agreement with Hitler try studying a few of their diaries. Also the sacrifice of Easter Europe was made by Churchill and Roosevelt long before Yalta.
You specifically mentioned the USA as one of the nations that lost the war:
"As for the Pacific war that was the only part of WWII which the U.S.A. and the other allies won as they most definitely lost the one in Europe. ".
They did not lose. They, together with their allies, defeated the Axis powers and by doing that, ended WWII.

I'm not defending Roosevelt and Churchill, but I'm pretty sure they and Stalin didn't exchange diaries among each other. They probably kept their hidden agendas to themselves. Whatever they agreed upon, they all, Stalin too, pledged to restore sovereignty to the countries they liberated from the Germans and their allies, and to let them democratically choose their own government. That pledge was an important part of the deal, and Stalin broke it. He betrayed his allies and the peoples of the countries he "liberated". He and Russia gained from that, and the countries involved suffered greatly. That however still does not mean the USA and the other allies lost WWII, they didn't.
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I didnt say either of these were suitable. I was just pointing out that your statement about the majority voting for Trump was incorrect. As is your statement about me "managing to get rid fo 2 eleceted presidents". Your assumption that I have a president is incorrect and you still havent explained what you were referring to by "get rid of". Cockwomble.



Disagree all you like with Jack, but can you please stop the name calling? Thx.


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Disagree all you like with Jack, but can you please stop the name calling? Thx.


The only people using name calling are the people disagreeing with me though I fail to see how using playground insults lends any credibility to the argument. My main theme was take responsibility for your own actions or at least accept the decision of the majority - that is the accepted majority according to the system used or change things. Using this idiot Trump as a scapegoat rather than a symptom of the current political climate is a form of shirking. As for my disagreement I have presented nothing but facts. Stalin's not keeping to any promises is a fact as is Roosevelt's and in real terms the allies did not carry out their intentions. It's a fact not an opinion that Europe was betrayed by the allies. Well they were at the very beginning when the British and the French gave away the Sudetenland. People can list all their family circumstances all they like it will not alter this. I could list my families contributions which were quite large but it will not alter the reality of the end of the war and I'm not the only one to feel this. Most of the older inhabitants of Eastern Europe feel the same as do. This is not a contest or game but what actually happened and the awareness of all parties that is the 3 main allied protagonists who all knew. Stalin broke his promise immediately after when he set up a puppet government in Romania before he then did not remove his troops from Poland as agreed but nobody stood up to him. His intended target to set up a new Soviet state was begun he achieved all his targets so in real terms he won the war and the allies did not take him to task unlike when Hitler invaded Poland they did. So what else do you call it a victory? Remembering these events were taking place after Yalta and before the end of the war.
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Disagree all you like with Jack, but can you please stop the name calling? Thx.


Considering to this point the fool asserts that 1). You can't blame Hitler for starting WW2 (the blame falls squarely on Hitler, it's reprehensible to excuse that monster for anything he did). 2). That 2 US Presidents were removed from office (a complete fabrication.. only 1 ever didn't serve his full elected term for reasons other than death and he resigned). 3). That the Allies didn't win WW2 in Europe (they most certainly did). These are not even debatable. They are facts. There are facts and there are lies. The cockwomble pushes egregious lies. Alex Jones would be proud. I'm sure the Trumpster is too. Cockwomble is being too kind in my estimation.

Get your moderator status if you want to moderate the forums. Until then don't act holier than thou. It's not your job.
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Get your moderator status if you want to moderate the forums. Until then don't act holier than thou. It's not your job.


I don't think one has to be a moderator to make a request, which is all I did.


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Get your moderator status if you want to moderate the forums. Until then don't act holier than thou. It's not your job.
Even people who aren't moderators have the right to have and express their thoughts about how people discuss matters. And while they don't have the authority to make demands, like moderators do, they do have the right to make a request. And that was all Noll did.
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So, trump thinks that Andrew Jackson was concerned about the Civil War, and if he had been president, he would have prevented it... (he died 16 years before the war started). And he wondered what the civil war was all about? What started it and, gee, why couldn't it have been worked out? Sure is nice that the president of the country, and people like his press secretary know their history? Can't hardly wait to hear his backtracking on that one...
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So, trump thinks that Andrew Jackson was concerned about the Civil War, and if he had been president, he would have prevented it... (he died 16 years before the war started). And he wondered what the civil war was all about? What started it and, gee, why couldn't it have been worked out? Sure is nice that the president of the country, and people like his press secretary know their history? Can't hardly wait to hear his backtracking on that one...



Trump on Andrew Jackson: "He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War, he said 'There's no reason for this.'"

Jackson ended his term in office in 1837.

Jackson died in 1845.

Civil War began in 1861.

The president of the United States is a moron.
Liz
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Trump: "So... what caused the Civil War?"

Bannon: "The Jews."

Sessions: "The blacks."

Pence: "The gays."

DeVos: "BEARS!"
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As a side note... Jackson would most likely have been FOR the Civil War, as he owned some 120 slaves at the time of his death...
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Considering to this point the fool asserts that 1). You can't blame Hitler for starting WW2 (the blame falls squarely on Hitler, it's reprehensible to excuse that monster for anything he did). 2). That 2 US Presidents were removed from office (a complete fabrication.. only 1 ever didn't serve his full elected term for reasons other than death and he resigned). 3). That the Allies didn't win WW2 in Europe (they most certainly did). These are not even debatable. They are facts. There are facts and there are lies. The cockwomble pushes egregious lies. Alex Jones would be proud. I'm sure the Trumpster is too. Cockwomble is being too kind in my estimation.

Get your moderator status if you want to moderate the forums. Until then don't act holier than thou. It's not your job.


Quote some facts disputing the ones I gave rather than just saying it's a fact. Hitler may have started WWII but my point was he was supported and elected as is your current leader and the pre-election behaviour of both these men illustrated just exactly how they would behave once in office. Oh and please don't misinterpret this to mean I support either of their actions. The allies behaved exactly in the way I've illustrated and in real terms lost the war. My theme was the reality not what some flag waving naive people think. I was advised to read history books well these facts are all contained in those rather than in romantic movies like Saving Private Ryan. As for your cock thingy well I can live with whatever that means. By the way there were people who were saying the same thing as me in 1945.
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Quote some facts disputing the ones I gave rather than just saying it's a fact. Hitler may have started WWII but my point was he was supported and elected as is your current leader and the pre-election behaviour of both these men illustrated just exactly how they would behave once in office. Oh and please don't misinterpret this to mean I support either of their actions. The allies behaved exactly in the way I've illustrated and in real terms lost the war. My theme was the reality not what some flag waving naive people think. I was advised to read history books well these facts are all contained in those rather than in romantic movies like Saving Private Ryan. As for your cock thingy well I can live with whatever that means. By the way there were people who were saying the same thing as me in 1945.
Let me recap: WWII was a war between the AXIS powers and the Allied Forces, or the United Nations, as they called themselves back then. The AXIS consisted of Germany, Italy and Japan and the minor powers Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania and Thailand (and Yugoslavia, but only for two days, so I'll ignore them).

Italy deposed Mussolini and joined the Allied forces in 1943, Bulgaria sort of did the same in 1944, Hungary was defeated in 1944, Romania switched sides in 1944, Thailand threw out its government in a coup d'etat in 1944, and Germany and Japan capitulated in 1945. And with that, Second World War was over. The AXIS lost, the Allied Forces won.

Now you could argue, that one of the Allies gained more than the rest, but that doesn't mean the rest lost.
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Trump: "So... what caused the Civil War?"

Bannon: "The Jews."

Sessions: "The blacks."

Pence: "The gays."

DeVos: "BEARS!"


Thank you Liz!
amy1967
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Quote by Liz
Trump: "So... what caused the Civil War?"

Bannon: "The Jews."

Sessions: "The blacks."

Pence: "The gays."

DeVos: "BEARS!"


OK, that made me laugh. But for those who don't get the punchline, it comes straight from Betsy DeVos confirmation hearing as Trump's nominee for Secretary of Education where she advocated for allowing guns in schools (???), and her example to illustrate why guns should be allowed in schools was in case a grizzly bear entered a school. She cited an incident in Wyoming I believe, yet no one has ever been able to confirm this ever actually happened. In any case, it's become something of an albatross for her. And rightly so.

For those not familiar with who she is, this should explain it quite succinctly. She paid for her position in Trump's administration. Flat out bought it.
adele
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Quote by amy1967
OK, that made me laugh. But for those who don't get the punchline, it comes straight from Betsy DeVos confirmation hearing as Trump's nominee for Secretary of Education where she advocated for allowing guns in schools (???), and her example to illustrate why guns should be allowed in schools was in case a grizzly bear entered a school. She cited an incident in Wyoming I believe, yet no one has ever been able to confirm this ever actually happened. In any case, it's become something of an albatross for her. And rightly so.

For those not familiar with who she is, this should explain it quite succinctly. She paid for her position in Trump's administration. Flat out bought it.




Would that come under the heading of pay for play? Or should we limit that to the members of Mar-a-Lago? Does she even have a college degree of any sort?