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NOT an official stance, but... prospective poets, please read.

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Quote by overmykneenow
Poems are taking over Lush. Mind you I think you mods have to shoulder some of the blame for that - you're even accepting haikus now!

Look how bad it's getting...

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Total Stories Poems
2010 2761 2403 358 (13%)
2011 4943 4378 565 (11%)
2012 5711 4858 853 (15%)
2013 5501 4422 1079 (20%)
2014 8153 5797 2356 (29%)
2015 1197 743 454 (38%)[/code]

*Bear in mind that figures don't include the deleted category


You and your tech minded sensibilities make me go prr.
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Quote by StillUndecided
I am aware of that. Though some of my sad ones were rejected from there too.


I'll read them hon.xxxx

If you want me to.
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Quote by sprite
Okay, like i said, this is not an official stance, just my own pet peeve, but people, we're getting in a lot of downer poems in the love poems - yes, love does deal with heartache sometimes, but really, it DOES say love poems, not emo poems. please consider that most people are coming here to read erotica and really, it's turning into a bit of a downer to pop into the love category anymore - gotten to the point where i won't even read the poems. Like I said, not an official stance, but yeah, maybe think about it before you hit 'submit'? i have enough depression in my life already - reading is, kind of, my escape.

thanks,
sprite - member


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xx SF
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Eroticism is not about four letter words, its about the rolling emotions and tides crashing against emancipated freedoms. Writers express many vocabularies of feelings, without having the need to use guttural sounds. Mods are human, sometimes they make mistakes. Writing is like a coloring book. Some writes can brush a rainbow, while others cant see the easel without a cock or cunt with horse hairs.
Buz
The Linebacker
No we don't accept 3 lined Haikus. If you want to write a traditional 3 line Haiku please post it in the Poet's Corner of The Forum. There is a thread for those there.

If you want to base a much longer poem on the syllable and meter pattern of a Haiku that is fine. Bear in mind it would need to be several stanzas long and therefore is not a traditional Haiku anymore. It also needs to be either romantic love or erotic. Quality counts if you want it to be accepted.
ChuckEPoo
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Quote by Liz


So I can post really depressing emo stuff on the forum?

Why do you hate me, emo kitty?
You scratch my arm when I try to sitty
On the sofa which is next to your bed,
You look at me like you want me dead.

I'd like to scratch behind your ear
But always hesitate out of fear
That you'll rip off my finger and run away.
I don't have any health insurance, okay!

I hear you moving late a night
Hiding in shadows out of sight,
Waiting for me to go for a pee
To launch an attack whilst laughing with glee.

I know it was you that slashed my front tire
And turned on the stove which started that fire,
But I'll have the last laugh, it was in a wonderful dream,
An image of you covered in hair removal cream.


Hahahaha. Gawd you're hilarious! Great hate pussy poem. Covered with hair removal cream? Brilliant!
avrgblkgrl
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Quote by stephanie


QUITE FRANKLY, NOT OUR FUCKING PROBLEM...

(You're a MOD, you approve stuff... We are Writers...)

What's UP ON POST is YOUR DECISION, NOT OURS...

If you don't like it, bounce it. If it's UP and you don't like it don't read it...

So glad this is NOT an OFFICIAL STANCE...

(Most poet's here KNOW the difference between the EROTIC POEM category and the LOVE POEM category.) And FILE to type.

xx SF


Uh-Oh! Steph is flexing.

*Searching through my stuff to make sure there's no Emo poems.*

There is something about poetry... The misconception that it's easier, I guess. The assumption that anything goes, I hope not. That type of thinking is a problem. Just because you write it down, it's how you feel or it rhymes doesn't make it poetry. Although the best things are of a personal nature, keep in mind that it may be a poem on the paper, arranged just so, but that doesn't mean it's poetry. I know that sounds crazy. I have to ask myself one major question each and every time I write anything: Is it me being totally self-indulgent or is it something bigger than just myself? Of course, that's something only the writer can truly answer. There are advantages to narcissism when it comes to writing, but it can be sort of blinding too. I may not see so straight. But, stop and ask. You owe it to yourself and your reader. You can tell who is really taking a critical look at what they write and those that are just jotting down the first thing that pops in their head, then pressing submit. And no, I'm not picking on the heavy submitters or anyone in general--so please don't assume. I know some writers that actually can just sit down and write the best stuff ever, first draft and right off the top of their heads. It is rare though.

We are all learning. But as writers (regardless of what level you are on), it is something to think seriously about.
? A True Story ?
sprite
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Quote by stephanie


QUITE FRANKLY, NOT OUR FUCKING PROBLEM...

(You're a MOD, you approve stuff... We are Writers...)

What's UP ON POST is YOUR DECISION, NOT OURS...

If you don't like it, bounce it. If it's UP and you don't like it don't read it...

So glad this is NOT an OFFICIAL STANCE...

(Most poet's here KNOW the difference between the EROTIC POEM category and the LOVE POEM category.) And FILE to type.

Our ALMOST A MILLION readers seem to get this too... (THEY read, comment and vote on what THEY LIKE...)

xx SF


There is a reason i signed that as a member, not a mod. i will approve anything that doesn't break TOS and that adheres, even loosely, to the guidelines - oh, and is grammatically correct. It's not my job to bounce stories because I don't like them. modding makes you set aside personal opinions.

as a reader, it kind of bothers me that an erotic site is turning into The Mopey Poetry Hour. Truth be told, if it was in my power, I'd eliminate the poetry catagory completely at this point. I've argued as much in the past. Fortunately for everyone here, it wasn't a popular stance to take.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
Buz
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Did somebody say Emu?
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Quote by sprite


There is a reason i signed that as a member, not a mod. i will approve anything that doesn't break TOS and that adheres, even loosely, to the guidelines - oh, and is grammatically correct. It's not my job to bounce stories because I don't like them. modding makes you set aside personal opinions.

as a reader, it kind of bothers me that an erotic site is turning into The Mopey Poetry Hour. Truth be told, if it was in my power, I'd eliminate the poetry catagory completely at this point. I've argued as much in the past. Fortunately for everyone here, it wasn't a popular stance to take.

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xx SF
sprite
Her Royal Spriteness
Am i not allowed an opinion? Am i not allowed to voice it? am i not allowed to rant occasionally? Did I ever say, you are not allowed to write sad poems? No, I simply pointed out that there's a hell of a lot of them and that maybe people should think about what this site is about when they decide to submit something. It's called LushStories. We publish erotica. *shrugs* people can submit whatever the hell they want, and i will continue to publish them, despite how annoyed they might make me. that's my job, and i do it damn well and without prejudice.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.
ChuckEPoo
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Ok I'm showing my ignorance again... But what is a emo poem? Sounds like a Sesame St. character.


Smoocher
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overmykneenow wrote:
Poems are taking over Lush. Mind you I think you mods have to shoulder some of the blame for that - you're even accepting haikus now!


Quote by Liz


Actually, we're not supposed to be. Please let me know (off the forum) if you spot any that slipped through the net.

We process a huge number of submission every month, so it's not surprising if one or two end up being approved by accident.

Thank you. smile


==========

OK...I'm quick to admit I do not know the technicalities of writing style(s), but I did figure out the 5 - 7 - 5 thing with haikus and have seen some rater creative writing(s) in that format ... better than just rhyming for rhyming sake. Thus ... why / what is the problem with haikus...??
Nikki703
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Quote by sprite
Okay, like i said, this is not an official stance, just my own pet peeve, but people, we're getting in a lot of downer poems in the love poems - yes, love does deal with heartache sometimes, but really, it DOES say love poems, not emo poems. please consider that most people are coming here to read erotica and really, it's turning into a bit of a downer to pop into the love category anymore - gotten to the point where i won't even read the poems. Like I said, not an official stance, but yeah, maybe think about it before you hit 'submit'? i have enough depression in my life already - reading is, kind of, my escape.

thanks,
sprite - member


Not sure if this is easy to do or not but why not create a separate area to post the sadder emotional poems? That way people who are expecting more "cheery" LOVE poems will not be brought down. Seems like a simple solution...................but WTF do I know!

If this idea is really stupid, blame it on fact I'm really tired!
overmykneenow
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There is a broader problem with "downer" poems - especially for those who repeatedly produce them.

Yes, sometimes we all feel a bit blue, maybe moved enough to put our thoughts down to help them makes sense. But routinely writing this stuff can set you down a dark path. Attention and praise can have a powerful effect for good but they also enforce negative behaviour. If someone is writing 100+ poems like this it's easy to imagine that no amount of positive comments, or 5 votes are going to break them out of their fug. If anything it just encourages them to stay in that mind-set - the perpetual victim. It moves away from catharsis and into dependency.
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Quote by Verbal


Nerdy will suffice.


Go to the home page, track through the pages until you get to Jan 1 for each year, multiply the page number by 30 to get the number of stories in each year. Go to your settings and block the poem categories - repeat step 1 and subtract the figures in column B from column A
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Quote by asleep
Bear in mind the POETRY contest for Valentine Day 2015. I'm assuming that had a significant part in the drastic jump in poems.

Writing can be good for the soul be it "happy" or "unhappy".


Even if you remove the poetry competition entries from this year's figures, poetry still accounts for 34% of all content on the site - another huge increase.
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Quote by asleep
OK...I'm quick to admit I do not know the technicalities of writing style(s), but I did figure out the 5 - 7 - 5 thing with haikus and have seen some rater creative writing(s) in that format ... better than just rhyming for rhyming sake. Thus ... why / what is the problem with haikus...??


Haiku are a deliberately short poetry format. Effectively just small expressions about a quirky observation or some other event. Being that they lack any significant substance as a piece of literature, it has been decided that we will not be publishing them.

If we did, there would undoubtedly be a deluge of submissions from authors. They would flood the story queue and the front page day after day, simply by the fact that they are quick and easy to write. This would have a number of knock-on effects which would hinder the moderators from processing the other story submissions.

Quote by Mysteria27
Just remember your sad poems and any rejected poems can always be put on Lush's non-erotic site.

http://www.storiesspace.com

A lot of the same members that are here are also over there. Just a thought.

Hugs,
Mysteria


It is worth pointing out that not all submissions that are rejected by Lush will necessarily be approved by the SS site. They too have quality standards and their own team of verifiers. If your poem was rejected on quality grounds here, then more than likely you will have the same response by the SS mod team.
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Quote by sprite
Am i not allowed an opinion? Am i not allowed to voice it? am i not allowed to rant occasionally? Did I ever say, you are not allowed to write sad poems? No, I simply pointed out that there's a hell of a lot of them and that maybe people should think about what this site is about when they decide to submit something. It's called LushStories. We publish erotica. *shrugs* people can submit whatever the hell they want, and i will continue to publish them, despite how annoyed they might make me. that's my job, and i do it damn well and without prejudice.


You know, some people would write sad poem about it. Perhaps you should try their recipe and pour your heart out on the paper.
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To be fair I agree with all here, but I can see it from sprite's point of view too. I have written a lot of poetry, but usually delete it when finished and only just posted on here. A lot of mine is sad, but as sprite has said, there is an increase, and if you had to read it to the level a mod needs to, and it is one after another, what would it do to your mental state!! I know what it does to mine writing it!!
Mysteria27
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Quote by Liz


It is worth pointing out that not all submissions that are rejected by Lush will necessarily be approved by the SS site. They too have quality standards and their own team of verifiers. If your poem was rejected on quality grounds here, then more than likely you will have the same response by the SS mod team.



I guess my poems that were rejected here fit there quality of standard over there. Mostly because here they were not love or erotica.

Xoxo
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Quote by sprite
Am i not allowed an opinion? Am i not allowed to voice it? am i not allowed to rant occasionally? Did I ever say, you are not allowed to write sad poems? No, I simply pointed out that there's a hell of a lot of them and that maybe people should think about what this site is about when they decide to submit something. It's called LushStories. We publish erotica. *shrugs* people can submit whatever the hell they want, and i will continue to publish them, despite how annoyed they might make me. that's my job, and i do it damn well and without prejudice.


You know I both respect you as a MOD/WRITER and adore you as a person.

Diplomacy has never been my forte, and, TBH, you hit a nerve. (I write sad poems REALLY well, but I often wish I could write lighter stuff quite as well...)

Apologies if I offended.

xx SF
Buz
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Quote by asleep

OK...I'm quick to admit I do not know the technicalities of writing style(s), but I did figure out the 5 - 7 - 5 thing with haikus and have seen some rater creative writing(s) in that format ... better than just rhyming for rhyming sake. Thus ... why / what is the problem with haikus...??


Accepting 3 line poems would overwhelm the front page and it would not be fair people who write stories and serious poems. No one would receive significant prime front page time for their newly submitted work. Not to mention it would probably hurt overall site readership. Most people come here to read erotic stories. We really aren't looking for quick and easy. We desire authors to put some serious effort and thought into producing quality submissions that people want to read.

Like we've said before there is a thread in this Poet's Corner set up for Haikus.
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Quote by overmykneenow
There is a broader problem with "downer" poems - especially for those who repeatedly produce them.

Yes, sometimes we all feel a bit blue, maybe moved enough to put our thoughts down to help them makes sense. But routinely writing this stuff can set you down a dark path. Attention and praise can have a powerful effect for good but they also enforce negative behaviour. If someone is writing 100+ poems like this it's easy to imagine that no amount of positive comments, or 5 votes are going to break them out of their fug. If anything it just encourages them to stay in that mind-set - the perpetual victim. It moves away from catharsis and into dependency.


So you know every poet personally and how they think?

I'm just curious.
overmykneenow
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Quote by daddysweetheart


So you know every poet personally and how they think?

I'm just curious.


Not at all, but I know grief junkies when I see them
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Quote by overmykneenow
There is a broader problem with "downer" poems - especially for those who repeatedly produce them.

Yes, sometimes we all feel a bit blue, maybe moved enough to put our thoughts down to help them makes sense. But routinely writing this stuff can set you down a dark path. Attention and praise can have a powerful effect for good but they also enforce negative behaviour. If someone is writing 100+ poems like this it's easy to imagine that no amount of positive comments, or 5 votes are going to break them out of their fug. If anything it just encourages them to stay in that mind-set - the perpetual victim. It moves away from catharsis and into dependency.


I agree with you. It's one thing to give voice to your emotions, to allow yourself to feel your grief and pain. It's another thing entirely to take up residence in that dark place.

Try smiling, you sad poets. Smile for sixty seconds straight, even if you don't feel like it. It just might brighten your day.
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Quote by overmykneenow


Not at all, but I know grief junkies when I see them
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Quote by Liz


So I can post really depressing emo stuff on the forum?
Why do you hate me, emo kitty?
You scratch my arm when I try to sitty
On the sofa which is next to your bed,
You look at me like you want me dead.

I'd like to scratch behind your ear
But always hesitate out of fear
That you'll rip off my finger and run away.
I don't have any health insurance, okay!

I hear you moving late a night
Hiding in shadows out of sight,
Waiting for me to go for a pee
To launch an attack whilst laughing with glee.

I know it was you that slashed my front tire
And turned on the stove which started that fire,
But I'll have the last laugh, it was in a wonderful dream,
An image of you covered in hair removal cream.
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I wasn't even aware that there were so many poems here, sad or otherwise.
I have never been a fan of poetry, don't write it, don't read it.
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Quote by RavenStar


I agree with you. It's one thing to give voice to your emotions, to allow yourself to feel your grief and pain. It's another thing entirely to take up residence in that dark place.

Try smiling, you sad poets. Smile for sixty seconds straight, even if you don't feel like it. It just might brighten your day.



Yes, well...

But there WAS another issue I EVENTUALLY thought about... It is THIS...

I said CHOOSE WHAT YOU READ!!!

(But Mods DON'T choose what they read. They HAVE to read everything... And as I should have REMEMBERED, that SHIT can BURN YOU OUT!!!) It burned ME out.

So, as well as being UNKIND, I was also KIND OF stupid with the HARSHNESS of my comment... (Although I stand by my opinion...)


xx Steph


Sprite: "You WERE harsh..."

me: "I said sorry TWICE!!!"

Sprite: "Say it again..."

me: "I AM FUCKING SORRY!!!"

Sprite: "Say it without swearing..."

me: "Oh piss off, Rae..."
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