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He was most likely referencing these flavors.

Cherry Glacier Gatorade


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Raised on Blackroot
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You should probably just get a trainer and get the basics down. Most trainers are fucking idiots, but judging from your OP, they will probably know more than you. (legs and shoulder presses are a weird combo)



Not that weird a combo. Well. If he’s doing them in the same day all the damn time then it’s weird. Putting it together into one exercise isn’t weird though. Dumbbell hip thrusters are a great way to combine a squat pattern with a shoulder press. That sounds too advanced for this dude though.
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Not that weird a combo. Well. If he’s doing them in the same day all the damn time then it’s weird. Putting it together into one exercise isn’t weird though. Dumbbell hip thrusters are a great way to combine a squat pattern with a shoulder press. That sounds too advanced for this dude though.


I'm assuming that he's doing a workout of legs with shoulder presses tossed in.

As for combining squats and shoulder presses in the same exercise... I'm not a fan. Any amount of weight that your shoulders can handle will be insufficient to provide the adequate resistance to work the muscles of the upper thighs. Full body exercises are kind of en vogue these days but I prefer to isolate muscle groups
Raised on Blackroot
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I'm assuming that he's doing a workout of legs with shoulder presses tossed in.

As for combining squats and shoulder presses in the same exercise... I'm not a fan. Any amount of weight that your shoulders can handle will be insufficient to provide the adequate resistance to work the muscles of the upper thighs. Full body exercises are kind of en vogue these days but I prefer to isolate muscle groups


Eh. It’s more of an exercise designed around athleticism and explosion. It’s a great move because you have to utilize the core. It’s also good for overloading a DB Press because you can fall downward into the squat and explode out to generate more power. Program I follow has them built into concentric and eccentric training. It’s not a more meant to emphasize leg development. It’s in a similar vein to a clean and jerk but is far more manageable for someone like me with some injury history and lack of certain flexibility.
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What you are describing is actually 100% vertebral movement. Do you know what vertebrae are?

Oh wait... Your mom told you this? And she's a "doc"? Well then, let's all listen because we all know general practitioners have extensive knowledge when it comes to exercise techniques....

What you're describing is just a sit up. By putting your legs up on a chair, all you are doing is decreasing the range of motion while immobilizing the pelvis so all the movement is accomplished by the lumbar vertebrae. So you are actually minimizing the work done by the rectus abdominus, while maximizing the risk to the spine.

Doing crunches with your legs up on a chair is fine, but doing full sit ups in that position keeps the risk the same but decreases the reward.

Dammit... I swore I wasn't going to weigh in on these types of threads....



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blah blah blah

Talk to the hand, cos the face ain't listening


Well the face should listen... Especially when the face is borrowing comebacks from 90's sitcoms.

What's the matter? Too many "science-y" words for you?

Tell you what... contact me privately and I'll give you the "abdominal exercises for dummies" version. Maybe then you could post an actual picture of yourself as an avatar and not some idealization of a 14 year old's wet dream from 1989.
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Well the face should listen... Especially when the face is borrowing comebacks from 90's sitcoms.

What's the matter? Too many "science-y" words for you?

Tell you what... contact me privately and I'll give you the "abdominal exercises for dummies" version. Maybe then you could post an actual picture of yourself as an avatar and not some idealization of a 14 year old's wet dream from 1989.


Fuck off!

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Fuck off!


Case closed.

I'm sure we'll all be waiting for you to regal us with more fitness gems that your mommy told you.

Or maybe you could find some 1990s baywatch screengrabs to use as your avatar.
Cryptic Vigilante
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Dammit... I swore I wasn't going to weigh in on these types of threads....


I wouldn't take the fitness crowd of Lush all that seriously if I were you. I mean, a while ago I had the extremely eccentric idea of introducing a proper bodybuilding thread right next to an assembly of people exerting themselves posting their favorite corny motivational quotes. They found my own idea of 'Health and Fitness' so goddamn bizarre that I mostly ended up explaining the virtues of stomach vacuums to a choir of crickets before the thread completely faded away into oblivion.

Seriously though, you can talk about that stuff for your own personal entertainment, but I wouldn't exactly expect anybody here to follow any of your recommendations. We're essentially supposed to assume that these people are going to diligently put all that guidance into practice in a highly strenuous 5+ hours weekly routine when the majority of them clearly demonstrate that they don't even have the sufficient willpower to go find an extremely basic Livestrong.com article that's a mere 3 clicks away. For the record, it took more than 2 years and over a dozen of posts before you chimed in and finally mentioned crunches when someone asked how to develop his stomach muscles. How fucking hilarious and preposterous is that?

Oh well, at least nobody is likely to strain their necks or hip flexors for real by awkwardly jerking those silly 200 morning sit-ups.
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Not that weird a combo. Well. If he’s doing them in the same day all the damn time then it’s weird. Putting it together into one exercise isn’t weird though. Dumbbell hip thrusters are a great way to combine a squat pattern with a shoulder press. That sounds too advanced for this dude though.

Quote by MadMartigan
Eh. It’s more of an exercise designed around athleticism and explosion. It’s a great move because you have to utilize the core. It’s also good for overloading a DB Press because you can fall downward into the squat and explode out to generate more power. Program I follow has them built into concentric and eccentric training. It’s not a more meant to emphasize leg development. It’s in a similar vein to a clean and jerk but is far more manageable for someone like me with some injury history and lack of certain flexibility.


What you have in mind are simply called dumbbell thrusters; hip thrusts are a different exercise altogether (for the glutes).



And I'll certainly open a significant bodybuilding vs crossfit can of worms here, but that kind of crossfit-inspired compound movement where you're using a lot of momentum to move the weights is terrible for the joints while actually being extremely suboptimal for building muscles. It's mostly a general 'conditioning' exercise where you're kinda working your legs, kinda working your shoulders and kinda working your cardio, but there are plenty of exercises/routines out there that will accomplish each one of those much more efficiently while preventing you from completely destroying your body. Seriously, I don't even perform strict overhead presses myself anymore because I consider them too risky for my joints and my shoulders were starting to hurt pretty acutely while performing them after years of training; you're definitely not likely to see me catapulting heavy weights over my head in that kind of poorly controlled explosive movement any time soon.

Imagine a guy who needs a 200lbs barbell for squatting and 2 x 40lbs dumbbells for overhead presses to perform strict repetitions in the 8-12 rep-range (which is the gold-standard for hypertrophy). Which dumbbells should he use for thrusters exactly? Let's say 2 x 50bs? With that weight he's only using half the necessary load to stimulate his legs properly (ie. completely futile for hypertrophy) while propelling dumbbells that are 10lbs too heavy for his shoulders (ie. absolutely terrible for the joints). Not only that, but the more movement/momentum involved in your exercise, the more difficult it is to properly concentrate on each part of it and the more likely you are to deviate from a perfectly safe form. Hell, the majority of novices can't even perform simple bicep curls without cheating by constantly swinging their bodies back and forth. And concerning cardio, well it's almost guaranteed that he'll put the weights down at muscular discomfort before really exhausting himself like he would in a proper 60 min cardio session.

What I'd personally recommend: learn the basic exercises with perfect form (which is much tougher than most people assume) and perform strict controlled sets of each independently, with an additional cardio session during the week if really needed. The overall philosophy of bodybuilding is to rely on perfect controlled form (ie. no momentum and no cheating) so that handling minimal weights will provide maximal muscular gains; crossfit is the exact opposite of that and deliberately encourages cheating/dangerous form just to swing inflated poundage. You're perfectly free to pick your side, but I'd personally much rather maximize my gains for as long as possible than to end up with a completely ruined body before my 40s.
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Not that weird a combo. Well. If he’s doing them in the same day all the damn time then it’s weird. Putting it together into one exercise isn’t weird though. Dumbbell hip thrusters are a great way to combine a squat pattern with a shoulder press. That sounds too advanced for this dude though.


Hip thrusters? Are you in aerobics or weight room...if you're doing legs, do legs not shoulders with them. Just because a second muscle group is being used during a certain excersise does not mean you're working that muscle that day. Lots of muscle are being used during excersises. It's what your focused on that you're working
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Jesus Christ. Here comes Serene with another essay. You must have skipped the part where I said I use controlled movement patterns when I do utilize DB thrusters (use a different word. I know what hipthrusters are. Use them often. Best glut focused exercise out there.). 5 second eccentrics or concentrics. In other words. Controlled movement patterns.

And I doubt a physical therapist would suggest something to destroy joints which is the background of the guy who incorporated them into his program. They aren’t a primary shoulder exercise. Just a supplemental one. There’s a common misconception you need large weights to build muscle all the time. You don’t. Especially with shoulders. There’s a time for heavy weights with shoulders but they are also responsive to higher repetitions and TuT. Furthermore, the programs I follow aren’t designed solely around aesthetic “bodybuilding” muscle. My goal is building muscle that is functionally athletic. That means different movement patterns and ultimately different goals than strictly bodybuilding. I have no intention of being a “swole” meat head with zero flexibility. And the last I’d ever do is take advice from bro-science bodybuilders either.


And if you’re still thinking I don’t do primary compound exercises,
“Professor” stop. I have no need of your weirdly vague condescension that’s vomitted out in your typical style. I squat. I deadlift. I hipthrust. I know the “basics” quite well. Have for years. My form is fine. Thanks for your concern.

CrossFit? What the fuck are you on about? I never mentioned doing CrossFit programs. I don’t really follow its principles either. Kipping pull-ups are total nonsense for example but it has some good ideas and yes terrible ones as well. As does bodybuilding and the amount of bro-science behind it that helps no one.
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Jesus Christ. Here comes Serene with another essay. You must have skipped the part where I said I use controlled movement patterns when I do utilize DB thrusters (use a different word. I know what hipthrusters are. Use them often. Best glut focused exercise out there.). 5 second eccentrics or concentrics. In other words. Controlled movement patterns.

And I doubt a physical therapist would suggest something to destroy joints which is the background of the guy who incorporated them into his program. They aren’t a primary shoulder exercise. Just a supplemental one. There’s a common misconception you need large weights to build muscle all the time. You don’t. Especially with shoulders. There’s a time for heavy weights with shoulders but they are also responsive to higher repetitions and TuT. Furthermore, the programs I follow aren’t designed solely around aesthetic “bodybuilding” muscle. My goal is building muscle that is functionally athletic. That means different movement patterns and ultimately different goals than strictly bodybuilding. I have no intention of being a “swole” meat head with zero flexibility. And the last I’d ever do is take advice from bro-science bodybuilders either.


And if you’re still thinking I don’t do primary compound exercises,
“Professor” stop. I have no need of your weirdly vague condescension that’s vomitted out in your typical style. I squat. I deadlift. I hipthrust. I know the “basics” quite well. Have for years. My form is fine. Thanks for your concern.

CrossFit? What the fuck are you on about? I never mentioned doing CrossFit programs. I don’t really follow its principles either. Kipping pull-ups are total nonsense for example but it has some good ideas and yes terrible ones as well. As does bodybuilding and the amount of bro-science behind it that helps no one.


Much sorry that my friendly advice was received as condescending vomit. Funny, I thought that you secretly asking me for guidance about awfully basic stuff behind the scenes was an indication of your acknowledgment that I'm much more knowledgeable about these things than you are and that you were sympathetic to my suggestions. On that note, have you properly received my comprehensive directives about nutrition a few years ago? I essentially invested 30 minutes of my precious time writing you fully personalized advices about rudimentary stuff that any novice normally sets off to learn all by himself within his first 2 weeks of serious lifting. You were pretty damn quick to seek my assistance but it appears that replying to it and minimally informing me that it was correctly received was much too demanding for your staggering lack of extremely basic social skills. And apparently I can't publicly present myself as an authority about any of those things while you willingly grant me this status yourself behind closed doors. Oh well, I guess you're simply a bewildering one Mr. Martigan.

Before you start taking things so goddamn personally and reacting in such a butthurt manner, please realize that three completely unrelated persons advised you against your thrusters in a span of less than 48 hours. In your response to DamonX you expressed that your thrusters are particularly great for overloading a dumbbell press and generating an explosive movement; now you're informing us that you're performing them with light weights in a perfectly controlled movement and a slow-tempo of 5 seconds. Dude, at the very least do try to be minimally coherent when you suddenly feel like backpedaling. And yes, it's a movement that directly emerged out of crossfit training (it was actually coined by the crossfit crowd) with explosive crossfit principles in mind, while it's very seldom encountered in any other training routine.

And sure, finding the sweet spot between appreciable resistance and time-under-tension is the name of the game concerning hypertrophy (which is exactly why the moderate 8-12 rep-range is considered optimal), but a thruster happens to be an explosive movement by its very core idea which lends itself extremely poorly for keeping a constant tension in your shoulders. If you suddenly feel like advocating the particular merits of time-under-tension tell us that you're performing simple lateral raises with low weights in the 12-16 rep-range while keeping a persistent resistance by never letting the dumbbells fully rest along your body; don't tell us that you're performing thrusters for an obscure amount of repetitions where half of the movement is spent in a squatting position with the dumbbells comfortably resting on your shoulders, with an extraneous leg movement that's only likely to distract you from the motion/sensation of your shoulders and that's completely futile for your lower body (especially now that you're informing us that you're actually working with dumbbells that are considered light even for your shoulders). And of course, you've been squatting and deadlifting with ultra-heavy weights for years but ardently promote that performing thrusters with two flimsy dumbbells is somehow a great move to utilize or strengthen your core. Sounds really legit.

Besides, I'm afraid that using low weights with 16+ repetitions is only vaguely valuable for 'aesthetic bodybuilding muscle' while being practically useless for any 'functionally athletic muscle', much more useless than working in the typical 8-12 rep-range actually is. You're essentially just building aesthetic sarcoplasmic muscle with that range of repetitions (even if minimally) with very little increase in myofibrillar fibers that lead to strength, power or explosiveness (ie. the determining factors for the overwhelming majority of sport/athletic applications). You do realize that athletes ranging from baseball, to hockey, to tennis players, to sprinters, to MMA fighters all mostly focus their weight-training around strength/explosiveness with heavier weights than bodybuilders with 3-8 repetitions per set, right? Endurance athletes themselves mostly rely on their own sport for improving their endurance and find little value in lifting weights with 16-20 repetitions. The only thing that lifting 16-20 repetitions makes you any athletically proficient at is tolerating the pain induced by lifting 16-20 repetitions without any rest, which is a situation that's hardly ever encountered in any sport or real-life circumstances. And before you feel like double-backpedaling by jumping from explosiveness to light weights to explosiveness again to support the effectiveness of thrusters for athletic goals, please realize that these elite athletes predominantly rely on extremely basic strength-training exercises while very few of them find any use for thrusters anyway.

Frankly at this point I'm not even sure what exactly you're performing and for which purpose. You're performing dumbbell [s]hip[/s] thrusters [s]explosively[/s] with a controlled movement while [s]overloading your dumbbell press[/s] using light weights, which are great for building [s]appreciable[/s] purely functional muscles and [s]intensely[/s] safely working your [s]core[/s] flexibility, but aren't a primary [s]legs[/s] shoulders exercise. Anything else you feel like amending?

At the end of the day I really don't care what you're performing (or pretending to) and it's exactly as I told you in my previous post: you're perfectly free to do whatever you want. Just please don't ask me to take you any seriously, and don't be surprised when the next time you'll realize that your ignorance leads you absolutely nowhere and come begging me for advices, my main reaction will be to kindly invite you to simply fuck off.
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Holy fuck you really know how to vomit words no one ever gives a shit about reading. If you’re gonna be such a bitch, self-edit more. You don’t need a novel when the final passive aggressive paragraph will suffice.

And coming to you for advice in anything isn’t a wise decision for anyone.
The Linebacker
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Your workout regimen should be fun and stress relieving. If you're not enjoying it and/or feel like it's adding to your stress, think about totally changing your approach.

I started lifting weights before middle school hoping to get stronger so I could beat up a bully, plus l loved athletics.

I've had a lot if success from weight lifting and overall physical fitness and the best results from my work out routines came from keeping it simple. And it is simple, to get stronger use heavier weights and gradually increase that. But don't overdo it and don't endanger yourself with too much weight and going too fast.

Learn the basic lift movements and concentrate on doing them correctly so you don't damage joints or muscles. And do stretches regularly.

I love doing pull ups & chin ups and found that l love what they do for the shape of biceps.

I love running, biking, playing basketball, tennis, and golf. Walking the course and drinking water instead of beer can make golf a better physical activity.

Women tend to love it when you have great abs. Personally, I've always done lots of crunches and sit ups. Using those torso chairs at the gym works great. You can do various exercises for your midsection, including really strengthening your lower back.

Everyone needs to experiment to find the routine they like. Then every so often change it up. Build some mass for awhile then change it up to shape & cut muscles.

Muscles though, have to be challenged to grow and get stronger. Get to know your bone and body type. Bigger, thicker boned frames do build bigger, stronger muscles faster. But if you're thinner boned, don't be discouraged. Sticking with it over a long period of time will eventually bring good results.

I personally think a normal, healthy diet is all you need. I've already experimented with all that muscle building diet and supplements and from experience think it's a crock of shit. If you're in great physical shape cardiologically and building muscle, you should be have developed the bigger appetite that goes with that. Eat and enjoy.

Physical fitness and building muscle isn't rocket science. Keep it simple unless making it complicated is what turns you on.
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You should always dread your workout, get high off it midway through, then feel absolutely euphoric afterwards.

If you don't dread your workout, you're not hitting it hard enough.

Nothing worthwhile comes easy.
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Holy fuck you really know how to vomit words no one ever gives a shit about reading. If you’re gonna be such a bitch, self-edit more. You don’t need a novel when the final passive aggressive paragraph will suffice.

And coming to you for advice in anything isn’t a wise decision for anyone.


M'kay... you might want to practice what you preach though.
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You should always dread your workout, get high off it midway through, then feel absolutely euphoric afterwards.

If you don't dread your workout, you're not hitting it hard enough.

Nothing worthwhile comes easy.


You're one of the few rare persons who managed to make some sense in this whole goddamn thread.

Eureka! Seems like I'm finally willing to grant your brevity a tiny bit of merit.
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M'kay... you might want to practice what you preach though.

You are one creepy little fucker aren’t you?
Cryptic Vigilante
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You are one creepy little fucker aren’t you?


How so? That message was sitting right in my inbox while I only had to use the search function to retrieve it in less than 5 seconds.

Glad that your hypocrisy isn't colossal enough to refute any of it though.
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How so? That message was sitting right in my inbox while I only had to use the search function to retrieve it in less than 5 seconds.

Glad that your hypocrisy isn't colossal enough to refute any of it though.


Don’t even remember it. At all. Must have been shite advice. What I do remember is a passive aggressive whiny PM you sent once filled with narcissism.

Do I still have it though? Nah. I don’t keep PMs that are years old. Neither do I post them in forums like a child. Hence why you are a creepy little fucker.
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How so? That message was sitting right in my inbox while I only had to use the search function to retrieve it in less than 5 seconds.

Glad that your hypocrisy isn't colossal enough to refute any of it though.


That's pretty rich, even for you.

I'm a hypocritical asshole, but I still refrained from posting that whiny PM you sent me a while back when I posted stupid pictures and memes in response to your paragraphs of nothing.
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Well the face should listen... Especially when the face is borrowing comebacks from 90's sitcoms.

What's the matter? Too many "science-y" words for you?

Tell you what... contact me privately and I'll give you the "abdominal exercises for dummies" version. Maybe then you could post an actual picture of yourself as an avatar and not some idealization of a 14 year old's wet dream from 1989.


Spoken like a true beta-male.
Cryptic Vigilante
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Don’t even remember it. At all. Must have been shite advice. What I do remember is a passive aggressive whiny PM you sent once filled with narcissism.

Do I still have it though? Nah. I don’t keep PMs that are years old. Neither do I post them in forums like a child. Hence why you are a creepy little fucker.


I can happily refresh your memory. Here was my shite advice, complete with all the passive-aggressiveness and narcissism that's clearly so typical of me. I admittedly regret all the rudeness included within though, had I restrained my hostile tone I might have received two simple words coming from you minimally thanking me for it. And who knows, possibly a better treatment in the forums at a later point too.

And sure dude, I sent you some other unfounded message containing extremely crass behavior diametrically opposite in attitude to what I otherwise sent you, just for the sake of it. Question: why exactly did I dare to expose our other PMs if I potentially knew that you could confront me with that other enigmatic message? With your absurd amount of backpedaling, hypocrisy, convenient memory lapses and other assorted deceits, you might want to consider that not a whole lot of people are willing to grant you much plausibility at this point. Especially in the context where you actually fed me with a vaguely similar silly little attitude prior to the devotion shown below and that this long friendly message was already me kindly turning the other cheek.

Man, I would have stopped at my very first post if you showed a minimum of etiquette, but don't make it so fucking easy and tempting to expose you exactly for what you are.
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That's pretty rich, even for you.

I'm a hypocritical asshole, but I still refrained from posting that whiny PM you sent me a while back when I posted stupid pictures and memes in response to your paragraphs of nothing.


Haha, of course you didn't post that PM you sad cretin: it was infinitely more compromising for you than it was for me. But here, I'm feeling quite masochistic and just can't help but to expose it down below simply to completely devastate my own reputation.

Dude, don't assume that people are as dumb as you are by pretending that this PM was in response to a few trivial pictures that you posted. You can't exactly show me how fanatically you hate me for a gazillion times (to the point where nearly 75% of your forum-apparitions concern me in one way or another), and then expect the Lush populace not to notice any of your silly little fixation toward me. As far as I'm concerned, every single word of my message was plenty justified and I don't regret expressing myself like I did for one tiny fucking bit. Nor does it expose a side of myself that I didn't already present numerous times on these forums on my own volition.

But hey, glad that you're so open to the idea of me sharing that PM and exposing to everybody here that you really can't work up the courage to confront me one-on-one in private despite my candid invitation to do so. You do realize that this is precisely what moderators advocate when facing that kind of predicament, right? And I should feel ashamed about that suggestion for what reason precisely? Seems like our respective paths to manliness were entirely different experiences altogether, but I'd personally feel a whole lot more embarrassed if I was some kind of cowardly little moron who can only challenge another man by throwing tiny nuggets of shit at him while he's already busy interacting with somebody else. Say, how about you at least engage me in some kind of basic debate that others can vaguely benefit from for a fucking change?

I must admit though, I'm not quite sure if I want us to fight in private anymore; spotting you desperately trying to insult me here in the forums is just invariably so goddamn hilarious. As in, anybody can clearly perceive that you constantly trying to even the score with me just hints to the fact that even yourself consider the current score to be in my favor, and yet you're simply way too dense to realize that behaving that way only serves to present yourself as a perpetual loser. Even more so when everybody pictures you scrutinizing every single one of my posts from behind the scenes and taking a month of preparation to spot an opportunity to finally strike at me, only to end up embarrassing yourself over and over and over again.

Where do you live dude? I totally want to verify if you're for real.
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Dude. You've got severe issues. The point of this exercise is what exactly? Other than proving to the maybe 12 people on Lush who even frequent this sub-forum that you like swallowing your own rancid cum? I mean, I won't stop you. Self-love and all that. Besides, more protein for your bullshit bodybuilding routines. They include upright rows right? 400 grams of protein? A needle in your dick maybe?

Whatever the goal is, it's not going the way you think it is. You get shit-stomped up and down the forums all the time with your novella-length posts that say absolutely nothing. I guess your own narcissism outweighs the weird inferiority complex you have considering just how many people you randomly send passive-aggressive PMs to because you're such a baby back bitch.

And by the way.

1. If I don't remember, it's probably because your advice was total shit and I ignored it because it was a regurgitation of any silly ass post one could find by searching on bodybuilding.com. In other words, total shit that an infant could write up. Buzzwords and bro-science.

2. Or I probably don't remember because it was probably several years ago. I imagine it was which is why your silly ass didn't include the time-stamp. I'll put odds on it being 3-4 years old though. Maybe back into 2013. Who knows. I don't keep records of PMs to prove some 'point' I expect to prove years down the line because I'm an angst ridden teenager that doesn't like being told he's a nutty fucking lunatic. Especially for a goddamn sex site. Like holy fucking shit. You're taking this way too fucking seriously, which is one of the reasons everyone pokes fun at you. Well, also because you send funny PMs all the time.

But congratulations on being a pissy pissant.

You done yet? Or do you wanna dig further into your treasure trove of PMs designed to...what? Make me pay attention to you? I'll save you the trouble.

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Spoken like a true beta-male.




As much as I'd love to banter with a guy who voluntarily uses the handle "orgyman BBC"....

I have a sneaking suspicion that this may be an alternate account of an existing member.

Maybe we should create an Incel group on lush for these types of people.
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Wild at Heart
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None of you pussies sound like you even lift.