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Self driving cars,Siri ,new advances in robotics and automation ,intention of more and more job posts held by humans to be replaced by intelligent? machines ...Can not be done without some form of AI .
How do you think will this develop in the future to come?
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The singularity is imminent. We will produce an intelligence the exceeds our own which will proceed to take over control of our world. In fact, it may already have happened...


... I said too much...





More seriously, even a self-driving car is a step in that direction, but does not qualify as "intelligent" in a human sense. Ditto Watson (the Jeopardy-playing supercomputer that is now being more gainfully employed in medical and other research tasks). They still aren't capable of truly independent, creative thought but are slaves to very complex algorithms. Watson, for instance, only seems smart because it can search huge fucking databases extremely quickly to come up with an answer. Ditto Siri/Cortana/Google Voice. What we are seeing is programmers taking advantage of massive increases in processing and storage power enabled by networking large numbers of computers together to create "smarter" applications with extremely complex algorithms and some learning ability (ie. they can create their own algorithms on the fly) but they still don't match up to human intelligence and won't for some time to come. Quantum computing might eventually let us come closer to human-like intelligence but it's still in its infancy.

So no need to start fearing Skynet yet, but scientists and ethicists are starting to debate and discuss the ramifications of smarter, more human-like machine intelligences. Hopefully, that debate can keep pace with the technology.
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A agree with seeker..

But I'm not sure it requires quantum computing for intelligence rivaling human intelligence, and to be honest I think we should be aiming higher than that. Much better to create an intelligence that isn't so swamped by so many cognitive bias's. The difficulty will be in identifying whether a truly 'intelligent' machine has been achieved. I put that in inverted commas because mostly people use the term to mean self aware intelligence. I only assume other people are self aware by their similarity to myself (and the negative of this informs bigotry in its many forms). Will we ever be able to assume self aware intelligence in any computer, or only in some sort of anthropomorphised form. Perhaps once we've worked out how to map the human neural networked brain structure into another substrate, perhaps growing a similar biological version with machine connections. A fair way off but certainly not out of the realms of possibility.

When it comes to it, on some measures computers are smarter than us, certainly on any intelligence that requires simple linear thinking. Once upon a time someone who could do calculations very quickly would have been considered very smart, simply because most of us can't. Computers have been great at doing simple sequential calculations very quickly and so we've diminished that in importance. Attempts to get computers to play the more complex games with too many permutations by using simple number crunching brute force showed their limitations. That is all changing now. Computers can now win these games using pattern matching and learning algorithms and are now proving to be better at diagnosing, say, x-rays by being presented with many x-rays with known diagnosis. However they are very limited in their breadth of knowledge and using that information to tie in a broader diagnosis. That will change.

But well before that happens, computers will be able to replace most of our jobs through advances not only in computer processing power but also material science and machine dexterity, they don't need to be that smart to do that. This has been happening for decades but is about to move into many more realms, not the least of which is self driving vehicles. Think of all those truck drivers, delivery drivers out of jobs. Cue serious, but ultimately unsuccessful, protests. Where will it lead? Who knows what the social and cultural impacts will be when so many more of us have leisure time/nothing constructive to do (take your pick). Perhaps we'll be like the Roman elite, and it'll all be gluttony and orgies. The bigger question is who will be in control, and decide on the distribution of wealth. Are we heading towards having a basic human income, many say it'll be the only sustainable way.... Cue, 'but that's socialism', by many, especially in the US.

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The singularity is imminent. We will produce an intelligence the exceeds our own which will proceed to take over control of our world. In fact, it may already have happened...


... I said too much...





More seriously, even a self-driving car is a step in that direction, but does not qualify as "intelligent" in a human sense. Ditto Watson (the Jeopardy-playing supercomputer that is now being more gainfully employed in medical and other research tasks). They still aren't capable of truly independent, creative thought but are slaves to very complex algorithms. Watson, for instance, only seems smart because it can search huge fucking databases extremely quickly to come up with an answer. Ditto Siri/Cortana/Google Voice. What we are seeing is programmers taking advantage of massive increases in processing and storage power enabled by networking large numbers of computers together to create "smarter" applications with extremely complex algorithms and some learning ability (ie. they can create their own algorithms on the fly) but they still don't match up to human intelligence and won't for some time to come. Quantum computing might eventually let us come closer to human-like intelligence but it's still in its infancy.

So no need to start fearing Skynet yet, but scientists and ethicists are starting to debate and discuss the ramifications of smarter, more human-like machine intelligences. Hopefully, that debate can keep pace with the technology.



Yes ,what we are looking at right now are probably just complicated algorithms that leave an impression of an intelligent behavior.We seem to have a technology developed to do it right there “ of the shelf“ .But I think it sets the scenery and some sort of infrastructure ,also creating a “demand“ and opportunity to go beyond ...as a natural next step.

By the way I see the talk about basic income in msm as a sign more people might be put out of work because of automation too as is mentioned here .
And to create an intelligent machine.first we would have to be able to understand intelligence itself as a phenomenon. At least that is what I think.Don't know if that is possible for us.

Seems like a really huge task to accomplish .
Somehow I think it will be tried to shortcut that problem firstly by HQis of man with a machine . Talking about some scary possibilities there.
Wonder how much of it might already be going on somewhere in restricted research facilities.