You all are about to see a longer true story I'm posting involving this very incident. I have a question about it that goes beyond the story. A few years ago I was involved with a woman who I'd met on OkCupid, lived alone and had sex with on our first date. We had only talked on the phone a bit before that first date. We were strangers. After that we kept exchanging texts and she sent me several texts saying that she felt 'so slutty' for sleeping with me on the first date and wanted to know if we could just hang out and get to know each other on the next one. At the same time, she was also sending me dirty texts about how she 'wanted me inside of her,' stuff like that. I agreed that we could just hang out, but in the back of my mind was thinking that she so clearly wanted to be seduced that we would probably end up fucking again.
Sure enough, on our second date, we ended up in bed at her place. First I went down on her, then we had sex once, then hung out and drank wine for a while, then had sex again. This second time neither of us had any condoms so she told me I could go raw. She had revealed she was on birth control but there was no STD talk. I hadn't raw dogged a woman since college and was surprised at my own stamina. She held on to my back and kept moaning, "Daddy...daddy...uh daddy..." It was hot and very weird at the same time. It made me fuck her a little rougher. She had an orgasm first and I came inside her right after.
At the time, I didn't think much of it, but I now can't believe I was cavalier and reckless enough to have sex with someone who was a relative stranger without protection, and I can't believe how brazen she was to initiate bare sex with me on our second date. Given all I've said--the dirty and contradictory texts, her 'daddy' moans, the circumstances...why do you think she wanted me to fuck her like that so soon? Is that normal?Did she want a relationship very badly? Or was it, you know...(five letter word) issues?
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This is much, much more common than you seem to think.
If you're a guy who always has his condoms ready before even letting the woman voice her opinion on the subject, you may have a different perception, but the truth is that many women leave it up to the guy if he wants to wear a condom. If you don't bring up condoms yourself, they don't either, and are happy to just let it happen. And then there is a smaller minority of women who will actually tell you up front that you can go raw.
There was an article somewhere that I can't find right now, which stated that easily over half of people using Tinder have had unprotected sex with their Tinder dates. Mine and other people's observations are completely in line with that finding, despite everyone on internet forums loudly proclaiming that they always use protection. Reality of what happens in the heat of the moment, under circumstances like you described, is often a different story however.
A girl insisting on a condom on the first date, but subsequently telling me that I can go raw on the second date (or even during the second round in the same night or next morning) is also a phenomenon that I've encountered a few times. I guess that they want to come across as a good girl at first and avoid giving an overly "slutty" impression, knowing that some guys are quick to judge? But it does feel better, hotter and more spontaneous without a condom, for men and women alike.
Before anyone starts attacking me for this, of course some women stay true to their promises to always use protection, but it doesn't change the fact that many others don't (PS. I'm not judging them for it, we all have our needs).
PS. I have also made a small experiment with this on another internet forum, where an usual "Would you have unprotected sex with a stranger?" poll predictably yields a small minority of "Yes" votes.
Instead, I created a poll called "Have you EVER had unprotected sex with a stranger or one night stand?", with the following options:
"Yes"
"It has happened once or twice, but I don't normally do that"
"No, never"
"I have never had no strings attached sex"
Result? The two first options, so indeed all the people who HAVE had unprotected sex with a stranger, accounted for 75% of total voters (for both men and women).
Contrary to the first poll example, this result also includes everyone who has done it, but doesn't want to admit it to everyone in broad daylight, and are probably telling their friends that they always use protection (I have often heard the argument from women on the internet "I don't know what kind of women you go after, but all of my friends always use protection", which I feel is impossible both statistically and based on empirical evidence).
If you're a guy who always has his condoms ready before even letting the woman voice her opinion on the subject, you may have a different perception, but the truth is that many women leave it up to the guy if he wants to wear a condom. If you don't bring up condoms yourself, they don't either, and are happy to just let it happen. And then there is a smaller minority of women who will actually tell you up front that you can go raw.
There was an article somewhere that I can't find right now, which stated that easily over half of people using Tinder have had unprotected sex with their Tinder dates. Mine and other people's observations are completely in line with that finding, despite everyone on internet forums loudly proclaiming that they always use protection. Reality of what happens in the heat of the moment, under circumstances like you described, is often a different story however.
A girl insisting on a condom on the first date, but subsequently telling me that I can go raw on the second date (or even during the second round in the same night or next morning) is also a phenomenon that I've encountered a few times. I guess that they want to come across as a good girl at first and avoid giving an overly "slutty" impression, knowing that some guys are quick to judge? But it does feel better, hotter and more spontaneous without a condom, for men and women alike.
Before anyone starts attacking me for this, of course some women stay true to their promises to always use protection, but it doesn't change the fact that many others don't (PS. I'm not judging them for it, we all have our needs).
PS. I have also made a small experiment with this on another internet forum, where an usual "Would you have unprotected sex with a stranger?" poll predictably yields a small minority of "Yes" votes.
Instead, I created a poll called "Have you EVER had unprotected sex with a stranger or one night stand?", with the following options:
"Yes"
"It has happened once or twice, but I don't normally do that"
"No, never"
"I have never had no strings attached sex"
Result? The two first options, so indeed all the people who HAVE had unprotected sex with a stranger, accounted for 75% of total voters (for both men and women).
Contrary to the first poll example, this result also includes everyone who has done it, but doesn't want to admit it to everyone in broad daylight, and are probably telling their friends that they always use protection (I have often heard the argument from women on the internet "I don't know what kind of women you go after, but all of my friends always use protection", which I feel is impossible both statistically and based on empirical evidence).
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Well if we are not interested in each other enough to have sex on the first date, is there really a reason for a second date?
I know sex without protection is not wise and many do not participate without such protection.
But for some of us, sex is not complete if you insist on using a condom.
I know sex without protection is not wise and many do not participate without such protection.
But for some of us, sex is not complete if you insist on using a condom.
'tis himself!
I have no issues with someone who wants to have sex on the first, second, 83rd date; that's up the participants.
However, if she'll go bare with you on the second date, I would just be wondering how many other guys she made the same decision with, and of those how many might be carrying something I don't want. I would only go bare with someone I knew and trusted. I'm just too paranoid.
However, if she'll go bare with you on the second date, I would just be wondering how many other guys she made the same decision with, and of those how many might be carrying something I don't want. I would only go bare with someone I knew and trusted. I'm just too paranoid.
Convict
I think it’s quite sad that there are so many people out there who think absolutely nothing of their own or others’ Safety. Essentially they’re deciding that they’d rather die than use a condom. That’s your worst outcome but it’s a very real one. When a doctor tells you that you have Aids, will you still think it’s better to have sex without a condom? What if she not only has AIDS, but she falls pregnant too? With YOUR child. There’s another life that’s probably going to end prematurely. All because a couple of people didn’t want to use a condom. I can not see the logic in this way of thinking at all.
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Just some truth from my personal life... When my first marriage of over 12 years ended, Craigslist casual encounters was still a thing. I devoted a great deal of time and energy to getting good at hooking up with women that way. Indeed, I got very good at it. Some days I would have two or three women on the same day and they never knew (unless it was a threesome of course). Personally I'd rather not have sex at all than have sex with a condom. Over the course of a little over five years, I had somewhere over three hundred different women that I met on Craigslist and had sex with. Some just once and many for a period of weeks or months. I used a condom with less than 20 of them. Did I catch h.i.v.? No. Herpes? No. More than 300 women and I got chlamydia three times and gonorrhea once. Never had symptoms, and just had to take a dose of antibiotics and all was well.
My slutty days are past me, I'm married and have a son now. I don't regret all my whoring ways. It was wonderful. And by the way, how did I meet my wife? Yup. Craigslist casual encounters hookup.
My slutty days are past me, I'm married and have a son now. I don't regret all my whoring ways. It was wonderful. And by the way, how did I meet my wife? Yup. Craigslist casual encounters hookup.
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Or was it, you know...(five letter word) issues?
Yeah, sounds like she definitely had nymfo issues for sure. But what's wrong with that, you lucky bastard?
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