Wow, just that quote is enough to make me refrain from even reading the article.
It's is sick. She had a set of twins and 1 died. 3 lived upstairs and the daughter lived in the cellet with the other 3.
Which nring up a question I have had with these types of forums.
Don't get me wrong here:
We allow insect stories - like this one in todays paper, but not under age- isn't it still and wrong?
It seems to one writer it's ok and to an other it's not. Just like other types of sex are right for some and for others.
Again, please don't get me wrong - I believe all is fair in sex "IF" all are ok with it.
Bat
Tech, don't say that so loud. The next thing we'll be reading is insects having , with incense lit from incendiaries.
, like it or not, is one of the most popular genres. It's kind of the dirty little secret of erotica. Why? Because people always want what they can't have. And no matter how adept you are at attracting members of the opposite sex, it will never be acceptable to have an intimate relationship with a family member. The aspect is an undeniable fact.
But one of the major keys to writing a good story seems to be love. In my experience, there have been very few good stories involving non-consensual sex. Is wrong, I don't know. But forcing sex on anybody against their will certainly is. What this man did isn't sexy, it's evil.
Is it OK to write about and post stories about it with the intent to titillate? I believe so. If there is anything right about , it's that.
So then I raise another point.
stories ?
Animal stories ?
Snuff sotries ?
What is right in one eye -
is not always right in an others.
So, I make not judgement, for I enjoy most but some make me sick.
And those that do sicken me - I choose not to read. MY CHOICE.
Food for Thought
Bat
Sassy Red-haired Beach Kat/Dune Goddess
I believe in freedom. Freedom means changing the channel if I don't like what is on TV (or simply turning it off, for that matter). I can turn on a different station on the radio if I don't like the lyrics of a particular song. I can turn the page if an article in a magazine is distasteful or upsetting to me. I believe it is MY responsibility to look at or read only what is of interest to me and to avoid things I don't care to see or read about. I have a choice. I can choose to continue once I find a story to be "not my thing" or I can choose to move on. I don't expect the world to think as I do, or shield me from what is unpleasant. It is my job to provide my own filter for what I find acceptable in my life.
There are some things that are exciting to read about, even though I would never actually do them in a million years....ah the power of the mind to enjoy fantasy. There are other things that I have no desire to ever hear about or read about or see. Those include anything to do with kids, animals, scat, snuff, or . I am not judging those who would find these subjects interesting, but for me, they fall into the unacceptable category. Just my opinion. Having been many years ago, I can assure you there is nothing exciting or sexually titillating about it.
It is up to Lush what she feels is acceptable to be included in her site, but it is up to me to take responsibility for what I choose to read or not read once something is posted. If I read the tags and it looks like something that I don't want to read, well then it's up to me to steer clear.
Just my thoughts on a touchy subject.
Tech
Thanks Tech.
As I am not a writer and my 'SPEELing' is worse, you have stated in words what I could not. It is up to Lush, it's her forum and us to choose what we read. Click bad - Click stinky - CLICK ahhhh - good stuff. That smiple.
MrPlow, you made a good post. Makes people think.
Lush, love - you have a great forum and super people here - Thank you.
Bat
I will always play the devil's advocate and make one think. It doesn't mean I believe in it.
Can I post a story about a giant spider doing it with some guy and biting his knob off when they are done?
Nope prob Tech. If I can't take it, I need to move on.
Bat
Sassy Red-haired Beach Kat/Dune Goddess
Thanks mr plow...I'm glad you liked my post.
I also enjoy the devil's advocate role quite often.
As for my ordeal? My mom (who passed away in January) had a great saying for that. Not sure who said it first...but she said it best:
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger." She was right (she was always right).
Tech, it is true.
The older I get, the smarter my parents become.
Fuuny also, made my sweetie stronger also, Tech.
But even 20 yrs later, it still bother me. She never talks of it.
First, let me say that I would never make light of what anybody on this forum has gone through. I am not a heartless monster, and it hurts me greatly to hear that evil like this exists in the world.
I say this because what I am about to ask may sound inappropriate. If it is, feel free to flame.
Here goes. Given what techgoddess has just said about men wanting to fix things and feel helpless when they can't, does anyone else think that sometimes, women don't want things to be fixed? Maybe I'm generalizing, but it seems that women hold on to this kind of pain rather than trying to make things ok. Whereas men either take direct action, or forget about it.
Keep in mind that I'm not saying which way is better. I am only sharing my observations on the subject. Being a guy, when something happens to a woman that I love, I want to make things ok again. But sometimes, it seems like they are the only thing standing in my way.
I think that is only wrong if the incestual relationship involves children under the age of consent, what ever that may be where ever they may be. I also think that most religions are why is looked at the way it is. Myself, I could never go there with my kids... however, a long long time ago I had a female cousin that was drop dead gorgeous and she was interested in me. If I hadn't had such issues with I'd probably have gone and done something I probably shouldn't have with her. She was 'that' hot.
Sassy Red-haired Beach Kat/Dune Goddess
800ibgorrila: no need to apologize for having an opinion. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. Although I don't think one can generalize what all women do or what all men do, I will agree that some people (probably more often women...for hormonal reasons I would suspect) DON'T want things fixed. They would rather hold onto the emotion of hurt or fear or pain because confronting the cause of that emotion can be a damn scary thing to do. In other words, for some people, its easier to stay hurting than risk more emotional pain on the road to a solution.
I always find it interesting how a thread can go from one comment, in this case the story about the Austrian locking up his daughter and fathering kids by her, to men trying to fix things.
Some very good points were made and I was compelled to add my opinion. Many of my stories deal with , but I have no desire to partake in this type of activity with my daughters. Three of my four kids are adults and the one who is not an adult is 17. I find that some of my better stories come from a subject that is generally thought to be , or off limits by society. But I don't write about anyone forcing themselves on another. All of my stories deal with consenting participants.
I agree with those who opine that freedom is key. Freedom to read and freedom to not read, but with freedom comes responsibility. You can't have one without the other. I think my responsibility is to my reader and to the administrators of this site. I have the freedom to write as long I'm responsible enough to write within the guidelines set forth by the adminstrators. When I'm no longer responsible, then I lose my freedom.
I'm getting off my soapbox now. Thanks for lending an ear....or an eye...haha!
Anyone who reads my stories will quickly see that is an instant turn-on for me, but not for something like this. I find only erotic when there is a strong and binding love between family members. Where it becomes erotic is when that binding love "accidentally" spills over into sexual desire. It's not difficult I suppose, but coming from a family with only a mother who was rarely ever around, I find the idea of having family to be an extremely appealing fantasy. I think it's natural for me, having also been sexually abused at a very, very young age, to see that bond being a sexual one as well. I also find it extremely annoying to suggest that sexual desire begins and is "acceptable" only when a person turns 18.
All of the current laws are around to protect children and others from the desires of people who have been so removed from love that they can't possibly understand what it's like to feel it. To even feel a "thrill" at the and torture of another living being is to have become so completely lost that I can only feel pity for the self hatred that must be that person's mind.
You'll never find in my stories. You'll never find people forced against their will. But you will find , you will find youthfull desires and you will find other topics. I think anything treated with love is ok, anything where the other person is more important than you is ok. The laws are there to protect against those who have never experienced love and live in a lonely hellish state of mind.
Hmmm...wow that was really preachy. Color me righteous.
is a very touchy and subject for many people. I feel forced (or any other forced sex) is wrong. I feel if people feel a sexual attraction towards each other, they should pursue their feelings and explore them within their 'comfort zone".
I love how everyone is portraying the good side of and forgetting that most times it is a powerplay that is basically in another form. The same would be for a priest abusing his flock, or a teacher with one of their students.
Everything has some way of being portrayed from a good point of view, but somethings are still not allowed because of it. I understand drives in the crowds and funds the site. I cannot understand however how is cool and , violence, and torture are too much. Just seems like selective persecution to me.
::: passes soap box onto the next member :::
I'd have him shot if I were the judge over there.
