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Fuck- and Suck-fest versus erotic story

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Eroticism takes many forms. My preferred one involves anticipation. The situation engages and includes more than a tease, and offers a promise of ever-more-erotic circumstances and actions.

Then there's the fuck- and suck-fest. Guy meets girl guys fucks girl guy meets another girl, girl sucks guy with more fellatio and intercourse per page than apostrophes.

Dos anyone else encounter a challenge when narrating an "anticipation" story that needs gratuitous insertion of fuck- and suck-fest to get past the story reviewers? When I submit a chapter in which nobody experiences an orgasm for two whole paragraphs, I occasionally find that I've fallen short of the "fest" quota and am told to resubmit.

Lush is my first experience with an erotic story site. Did I pick the wrong one? I'm simply not interested in randomly injecting "OH MY GOD I'M CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMING" every few sentences to satisfy someone else's prescribed dose or someone else's definition of what "real" eroticism is.

Anybody else's view? Thanks
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As one of the story reviewers, I can assure you that we do not look for what you have called a suck- and fuck-fest in each story. This being an erotic website, we do look for some sexual content, but it can be a small portion of the story and be subtle or romantic or whatever you want to write that is not a suck- and fuck-fest (using your terms again). If that were the case there would be many stories that would not be published, including mine. I have to add that many readers prefer these erotic stories with some elements of romance to the others. I love anticipation, so I don't have to be convinced of its place in telling a story. Have a look at some of the stories that have been awarded Editors' Picks. You will see a wide range of stories there.

Please feel free to write your kind of story and submit it. So long as it complies with site guidelines and is not rife with grammar and other errors, it will be published.

If you have any further questions, you may PM me.
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No, I've not found that to be the case. In fact if you read my non-contest stories you'll see very little 'fest'ing.
Even on my contest stories I put a beginning, middle and end to them.
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There are both kinds of stories here. And I love both kinds.

As far as being a guy, for me the story that doesn't have much sex and more anticipation had better be really good to keep my interest. It needs to draw me in and make me feel the longing between the two parties. I have found writers who can do that and writers who can't.
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Anyone who has read My stories knows that I am all about the tease! I do spend a lot of time (sometimes maybe too much time) developing the plot and characters. I don't like to write (or read for that matter) stories that are "porn flicks" - just a whole lot of fucking and sucking with no plot or reason for it. The fucking-for-the-sake-of-fucking thing gets real old real quick for Me.

My stories have a story behind all the action and for the most part, I try to make it as believable as I can. No man can take on ten women at once and cum 10-12 times within the space of an hour's time! LOL! Not without a trip to the emergency room afterwards at least!
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My stories too. I'm not that good yet myself but I lean toward stories with a lot of character building. The more I can "See" them the better the story is.

I go on for many paragraphs before sex rears it's beautiful head. No pun intended.

The moderators here are very good. I prefer being smacked when I do a bad job, not just accepted because I used the word fuck a couple hundred times. Ask them why. I've found that they are very honest and will answer anything given the time.

Good luck
I am always a gentleman.
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Read some of the stories if you want to know what we publish. I think the variety is pretty broad. Mine tend to be mixed with some leaning to more plotty build-up and others being "fests". In fact, I think the "stroke story":storytelling ratio here is better than on a lot of sites if you prefer to read/write something with some build-up or that puts some context around the sex. Like principessa, I'm a verifier and I'm looking for stories that are well written, not dripping in spelling and grammar errors (please, please proof your work or find someone who can help you do so), and, of course, sexy; not for a checklist of oos and ahs.

Oh, and randomly injecting ""OH MY GOD I'M CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMING" every few sentences would get the story sent back or edited. We frown on the use of all caps. It's an Internet convention that should not be used in story writing.
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We have all sorts. It depends on what you want to read and\or write.

If I have time I like to read a well thought out story with some serious plot & character development.

If I'm in a hurry I will head over to our new Flash Erotica section for a quick cum.

I personally write with a lot of detail. I use them to paint my picture in the reader's mind and draw them in to the story.
Advanced Wordsmith
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I find my readers respond very positively to the literary aspects of my stories. They want and appreciate real plots and well-developed characters. Given the responses here I'd say that is typical. Others have asked before essentially the same question you've asked, and the answers typically reflect what you see here. I'd really have to surmise that the 'suck-and-fuck-fest' stories (and the readers who like them) are really more the exception than the rule.
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I think it depends on the mood...
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Eroticism takes many forms. My preferred one involves anticipation. The situation engages and includes more than a tease, and offers a promise of ever-more-erotic circumstances and actions.

Then there's the fuck- and suck-fest. Guy meets girl guys fucks girl guy meets another girl, girl sucks guy with more fellatio and intercourse per page than apostrophes.

Dos anyone else encounter a challenge when narrating an "anticipation" story that needs gratuitous insertion of fuck- and suck-fest to get past the story reviewers? When I submit a chapter in which nobody experiences an orgasm for two whole paragraphs, I occasionally find that I've fallen short of the "fest" quota and am told to resubmit.

Lush is my first experience with an erotic story site. Did I pick the wrong one? I'm simply not interested in randomly injecting "OH MY GOD I'M CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMING" every few sentences to satisfy someone else's prescribed dose or someone else's definition of what "real" eroticism is.

Anybody else's view? Thanks


By 'resubmit' do you mean Lush editors are bumping it - or the reading public gave it a bit of a thumbs down? For stories that don't have sex in every 'chapter' Lush has the 'novel' and 'love stories' category.

I publish for free here but I also self-publish. I follow the characters or the situation - and the sex, how frequent and how explicit, is very particular to the overall concept at hand and who the narrator actually is.

I refer to all written sex stories as 'erotica' - I call visual sex 'pornography'. (But I also use 'pornography' in a generic way - it has multiple definitions so sometimes I toss it around to mean 'graphic' (sex or no-sex) etc. This bugs some people to no end)

When it comes to erotica I would actually like to see authors adopting tags that address the relation of story-to-sex. Sometimes I want more story than sex - very plot heavy. Sometimes I want just stroke stories. I love it all - and would like to be able to more easily search for and find stories that would satisfy my interests (and from what I hear: a lot of readers AND authors agree with me)

These are my terms and how I use them:

1) Stroke: (what you're referring to as suck/fuck fest)
Mostly sex. Might be all sex, in fact. Could be a single short story or a multi-chapter story, but not much in regard to having a fully developed, non-sex plot.

When I write stroke stories they're usually direct RE the language and descriptions.

2) Build-up:
Stories that introduce one or more characters first, have a notable non-sex plot or situation develop.

Usually for me the sex ends up at the end. So something like: Intro character, establish situation, meet other individual, sex event ensues. Often the sex is the true climax of the short story - the culmination of a relationship, for example.

3) All-in-all:
Stories that half a fully developed sex-significant plot and a fully developed non-sex significant plot

Example: a couple's sex life makes up the 'erotica' part of the story and a strong non-sex plot such as the couple's struggle to run a business together.

4) Light:
Sex is light, suggestive, if it's there at all.

These might be seduction stories that culminate in foreplay but no sex - or things like erotic poetry without sex in it - or even stories that have sex, but it plays a small, lesser roll overall.

Tags that are helpful for your readers: No-sex, plot-heavy. I haven't used these yet here at Lush but at other sites sometimes these two are required to let readers know what to expect per the content.

A lot of people love 50-50, Light, and Build-up. You find these more often than Stroke stories when you buy erotica novellas and novels at places like All-Romance.

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In almost all of my stories - Stroke, Buildup, 50-50, or Light - I have character development and some backstory there. I write to explore character and situational concepts - always with the idea that maybe one day I'll take the short story and turn it into a novella or a novel.

I just ensure that the non-sex elements don't outshine the sex elements when it comes to Stroke stories. I always try to build anticipation and tension and maintain it properly. The different formats require different attentions - but overall that's how it breaks down for me.
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I like your thinking.
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I know what you mean by a Fuck-and-Suck-fest and truthfully I can't stand stories like that. Give me emotion, characters I wanna read getting it on after some motivation and development.
I'm pretty new here, but the few stories I've read so far were definitely erotica.
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I try and cover all bases, I like to describe the thoughts, the motives and the emotions, there has to be a story. I have done chapters that were short and very much to the point as well, the veritable fuck-fest. Generally though, I'm a storyteller.

I don't think there is a preference here, I've had stories with more 'story' praised as much as the shorter fuck-fests.