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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but here goes. I have had my first short story published but was a bit disappointed to find that after 10 days only 8 people had scored it and only 2 had left a comment (one of which I didn't really understand). Yesterday I realised that on your profile page it shows how many people have viewed ( read ? ) your story. I was amazed to find that over 2000 had viewed it . Is this a normal ratio ? Do so few people give any feedback at all ? Or should I take it as a reflection on my story ? I have a couple of other episodes in the pipeline and had hoped to have a bit of constructive feedback before deciding whether to publish them or not. Any info from you authors would be welcome.
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but here goes. I have had my first short story published but was a bit disappointed to find that after 10 days only 8 people had scored it and only 2 had left a comment (one of which I didn't really understand). Yesterday I realised that on your profile page it shows how many people have viewed ( read ? ) your story. I was amazed to find that over 2000 had viewed it . Is this a normal ratio ? Do so few people give any feedback at all ? Or should I take it as a reflection on my story ? I have a couple of other episodes in the pipeline and had hoped to have a bit of constructive feedback before deciding whether to publish them or not. Any info from you authors would be welcome.


Sounds about right, actually. Comp entries do tend to get more action, but I don't think that's too bad for a non-comp entry with that number of views. My latest non-comp story has 11000+ views in 4 months online but only 19 votes and 10 comments. For comparison, my latest comp entry (from the books comp in September) has only a couple thousand views but 22 comments and 24 votes. My most viewed story, which has been up since June 2013 has 45,000ish views with only 11 comments and 45 votes (and the vote total is fairly high, actually).

Unfortunately, many people come here to read, not comment. I find that it is other authors who do most of the commenting on my stories. Having a good stable of friends helps, as someone who is a friend seems to be more likely to drop comments. Promo'ing your story in Self-Promotion and Marketing, your sig, etc. with a request for comments sometimes helps as well.
Yes, that's to be expected.

My most viewed story has over 335,000 views. It has 127 votes and only 27 comments.
Rod, here's the deal with comments. If you want to get story comments, give story comments.

While Lush is a writing site, it is also a social center for many folks who like to chat and post on forums. I'm much to modest to suggest you stop by the 'Rumplations Cyber Honky-Tonk thread - see my sig line - in The Pub forum, but a lot of folks, including Seeker and Buz do, and posting a bit more than 32 times shouldn't hurt your chances of getting more comments...at least not much. )

If you do begin to post more, consider adding a link to some of your stories in your sig line. Don't worry, doing that is so easy a blind old fart can do it, trust me on that one.

Anyway, add a link to your story here and/or in your sig line and/or on a post at Rumplations and no telling what might happen.

;)
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Thanks for your replies. From what seeker4 and Buz say this is a pretty normal level of feedback so I guess I shouldn’t take it as any reflection on my story.
Rumpleforeskins advice is a little surprising to me ( and seems to contradict the other 2 ). Is getting feedback on a story really dependant on making lots of forum posts ? Surely writing stories and taking part in forum discussions are 2 completely different things .
The tip about adding a link to the story when I post on a forum discussion might be useful however. Although I can see that it may get more people reading it, will it get a higher proportion of people giving feedback ? Anyway your replies are appreciated.
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Thanks for your replies. From what seeker4 and Buz say this is a pretty normal level of feedback so I guess I shouldn’t take it as any reflection on my story.
Rumpleforeskins advice is a little surprising to me ( and seems to contradict the other 2 ). Is getting feedback on a story really dependant on making lots of forum posts ? Surely writing stories and taking part in forum discussions are 2 completely different things .
The tip about adding a link to the story when I post on a forum discussion might be useful however. Although I can see that it may get more people reading it, will it get a higher proportion of people giving feedback ? Anyway your replies are appreciated.


Hi Rob, just to clarify, Rumples' advice is very similar to that of Buz's and Seeker's, in that self-promotion really helps. Seeker was talking about one kind of self-promotion in terms of posting, and Rumpleforeskin was suggesting a more social kind.

So, what Seeker was suggesting is the excellent idea of posting in Self-Promotion and Marketing sections of the forum. Perhaps our Rumps was being over-modest, but a lot of authors hang out at Rumplations cyber bar in The Pub section of the Forum. Mingling over there and posting a link when you have a new story is encouraged, and authors here are very generous towards each other in terms of reading and commenting. So he wasn't just suggesting random forum posts!

Does that clarify things a little? smile
Listen to the curvy one. She is wise (and an very good Lush author herself). Rump is good, too. Just watch out for Terrance, guardian of the nuts, if you venture into the bar.
I don't think the number of views translates accurately into actual readers. Some people might click on a story multiple times (if they really like and want to re-read it, or stop halfway through and then come back to it later). Others might get a few sentences in and realize it's not for them. I'm not sure whether search engine web crawlers (like Google) also add to that number.

Anyway, as others have noted, there's something to be said for 'brand recognition.' Get your name/avatar out there in the chat or forums or by publishing more stories, and people will be more likely to click on your stuff. And if they like it, they might get into some of your back-catalogue. I've been on the site for about three years or so, and my first stories still get views (and occasionally a score or comment), even though I don't really aggressively promote them. Personally, I'm content to let them find whatever audience they may. However, there are a lot of authors on LS who are more active in obtaining a readership.

Don't believe everything that you read.

Thanks for clarifying that curvygalore and thanks for the advice seeker4 and just_a_guy. I will take it all on board.
Might I just add this. I am sure that Rump man was strongly implying that to get comments you might want to start giving them out yourself. I don't know if you are doing so, but I know that it really gives other writers incentives to comment on your work if you are kind enough to reciprocate. Perhaps that was said earlier and I simply missed it.
I enjoy a good feed back, but my main concern, is getting my lines posted. I 'think' i have a loyal following of a handful, because my writing dosen't fall between the bed-folds of what many like. That said, I don't practice reading other's if they brush my words off. I am not into the numbers game, or playing go fish. Like all other's, I like recognition, but I don't bonkers over it. Writing is my game, Adagio (Al) is my name.
I enjoy a good feed back, but my main concern, is getting my lines posted. I 'think' i have a loyal following of a handful, because my writing dosen't fall between the bed-folds of what many like. That said, I don't practice reading other's if they brush my words off. I am not into the numbers game, or playing go fish. Like all other's, I like recognition, but I don't bonkers over it. Writing is my game, Adagio (Al) is my name.
Yeah, what they all said. Self-promotion on the sig line or a promotional thread might help a little, but I haven't found it that effective. Read other people's stories and make meaningful comments is the best way to grow an audience. Think of it as a writing community, where we support each other and help each other improve. I don't have a large following, maybe mid-20s in votes on a good day (and I am sometimes lax about commenting on other stories), but I really appreciate those that read me.

Getting a buzz on at Rump's afterwards helps too.
another good way to get lots of votes/comments is to change your name to Sprlte and simply threaten people with imminent destruction unless they leave something for you.

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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another good way to get lots of votes/comments is to change your name to Sprlte and simply threaten people with imminent destruction unless they leave something for you.



It works. Believe me.
robjw, Since you are a first time writer, allow me to give you a little hard-earned advice...

On scoring, don't beat yourself up over the scores they really don't mean a hell of a lot.

Comments sometimes help you if they are actually constructive and not just a generic "great story".

Now the views - that's what counts here on Lush. Views will get you Famous Story status, Legendary Story status, and badges. Also when someone goes to your story and sees that it has XXX views, it tends to make them think there just might be something to this story!

So forget about the scoring, weed through the comments, and enjoy the views - you'll sleep better at night! smile
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another good way to get lots of votes/comments is to change your name to Sprlte and simply threaten people with imminent destruction unless they leave something for you.



Yeah but if we all did that imagine how confusing it would be! "Would the real sprite, please stand up!" smile
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Yeah but if we all did that imagine how confusing it would be! "Would the real sprite, please stand up!" smile


I'm Spritecus! *giggles and runs*

You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you are capable of violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless.

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Yeah but if we all did that imagine how confusing it would be! "Would the real sprite, please stand up!" smile


EVERYONE should change their username to sprite.
I would also add that replying to comments, even with just a simple thank you, seems to help people realize that you appreciate the fact that they took time to read, comment, and maybe vote.
I try to always reply, though often not as quickly as I'd like, and let everyone know that I've read and appreciated their comment and their time. That said, the ratio of people that don't even say thanks for the free entertainment always amazes me. All the more reason to acknowledge and maybe build a relationship with those that do.

Good luck, and welcome to your new endeavor. Congratulations on getting your work published by Lush.
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EVERYONE should change their username to sprite.


No need, I just log in on her account


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Thanks everyone for all the help and advice . I feel I understand the way things work a little better now.
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but here goes. I have had my first short story published but was a bit disappointed to find that after 10 days only 8 people had scored it and only 2 had left a comment (one of which I didn't really understand). Yesterday I realised that on your profile page it shows how many people have viewed ( read ? ) your story. I was amazed to find that over 2000 had viewed it . Is this a normal ratio ? Do so few people give any feedback at all ? Or should I take it as a reflection on my story ? I have a couple of other episodes in the pipeline and had hoped to have a bit of constructive feedback before deciding whether to publish them or not. Any info from you authors would be welcome.


The ratios differ for each writer and genre. The best advice I can give you is to write a great story with sex in it, versus a sexy story.

Given this site has international reach, some people do not like to comment. Some of my friends have told me that. Their English isn't
the language they are most comfortable using to leave comments. However, views and comments, not votes, are a great way to gauge
how well your story is being received.

As well, always thank those that leave comments. They have spent however long reading your work. Show your appreciation for their time.
Sometimes, the comments may not be as constructive as you would like. But most times, people are very supportive and will tell you if you
have done a good job - for them.

Keep it light. Don't take your writing too seriously. Add fun, witty dialogue, if you are comfy with it.

Read EP & RR stories to get tips on good writing. There are some brilliant writers here. They have taught me so much, and I learn more each day.

But most importantly, keep learning, keep reading, keep writing, and have fun!!!
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Keep it light. Don't take your writing too seriously.


Lots of great advice, but this especially. As a reader I can usually get a sense of when the author is really taking joy in their creativity vs trying desperately to get attention and write the 'greatest sex story in all of erotic literature' in order to get infinite RRs and EPs and so on. Personally, I prefer good writing that isn't too desperate for me to think highly of it (In the same way that neediness isn't particularly attractive in a person, but confidence can be).

Don't believe everything that you read.

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Lots of great advice, but this especially. As a reader I can usually get a sense of when the author is really taking joy in their creativity vs trying desperately to get attention and write the 'greatest sex story in all of erotic literature' in order to get infinite RRs and EPs and so on. Personally, I prefer good writing that isn't too desperate for me to think highly of it (In the same way that neediness isn't particularly attractive in a person, but confidence can be).

No I don't intend to take my writing too seriously. I have read so many great stories on this site that I just thought I would post a couple of stories as my way of making a contribution to the site. As this was my first one I was keen to get some feedback from readers before deciding whether to proceed further. I don't expect everyone to like my stories or my style of writing, but if enough people out there enjoy it then I will consider it worth while.