I just hope we see Robin in the next movie. That dude is tough as hell, and could help Batman in many situations.
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Ben Affleck is the new Batman....thoughts?
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This sums up my opinion
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i am a big fan of the comic book movie genre and have found that batman happens to be one of my favourites. unfortunately i do NOT think Ben Aleck would be good at batman.
you need some of that pent up anger to be released at batman like Bale had. it was like watching a bull going in for the kill. i don't think Afleck has it in him.
you need some of that pent up anger to be released at batman like Bale had. it was like watching a bull going in for the kill. i don't think Afleck has it in him.
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Ben Affleck Responds to Batman Backlash: "I'm a Big Boy…I'm Very Tough"
by Zach Johnson Today 4:54 AM PDT
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Before Ben Affleck agreed to play the caped crusader in Warner Bros.' untitled Batman-Superman movie, the 41-year-old actor was warned that his casting might create controversy. Appearing on NBC's Late Night With Jimmy Fallon on Monday, Sept. 16, the actor addressed critics who were hoping to see someone else share the screen with Man of Steel's Henry Cavill.
"They called me up and said, 'Do you wanna do this?' And I thought, 'Well, I'm not 25, man. Are you sure about this?'" Affleck told host Jimmy Fallon. After discussing the tone of the film with director Zack Snyder, Affleck was on board. Before the announcement was made, however, studio executives wanted to ensure the Oscar winner knew what was at stake.
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According to Affleck, the big wigs told him, "'Listen, we want to talk to you because people go through this process and it can be trying...We want to show you some of the reactions that past people who have been cast have gotten, like on the internet and stuff,'" he recalled. "[They showed me] people who were in these movies who did a great job and [commenters would] say, 'Kill him!' You can't say that before a movie comes out. It doesn't matter what you think then, it matters what you think when you see the movie."
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Jennifer Garner's better half wasn't initially worried about the potential backlash. "The people from the studio were like, 'We're thrilled! And listen, we want to talk to you, because people go through this process and it can be a little trying.'"
Affleck was advised not to go online for a few days, but he did so anyway. "I said, ‘I'm a big boy. I can handle any snub. I can handle anything.'"
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"I said, 'I handle s--t.' I'm very tough,'" he continued. "So, I saw the announcement, I look down the thing and I look at the first comment. The first comment goes, 'Nooooooooooooo.' I'm like, ‘We're going to be Luddites for a while, kids.'"
Affleck said he's excited to see how his three children react when they watch the movie in July 2015. "Every kid should see their dad as a superhero, right? It's so awesome, man," he said. "I'm so excited."
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Ben Affleck Responds to Batman Backlash: "I'm a Big Boy…I'm Very Tough"
by Zach Johnson Today 4:54 AM PDT
Ben Affleck Theo Wargo/Getty Images
Before Ben Affleck agreed to play the caped crusader in Warner Bros.' untitled Batman-Superman movie, the 41-year-old actor was warned that his casting might create controversy. Appearing on NBC's Late Night With Jimmy Fallon on Monday, Sept. 16, the actor addressed critics who were hoping to see someone else share the screen with Man of Steel's Henry Cavill.
"They called me up and said, 'Do you wanna do this?' And I thought, 'Well, I'm not 25, man. Are you sure about this?'" Affleck told host Jimmy Fallon. After discussing the tone of the film with director Zack Snyder, Affleck was on board. Before the announcement was made, however, studio executives wanted to ensure the Oscar winner knew what was at stake.
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According to Affleck, the big wigs told him, "'Listen, we want to talk to you because people go through this process and it can be trying...We want to show you some of the reactions that past people who have been cast have gotten, like on the internet and stuff,'" he recalled. "[They showed me] people who were in these movies who did a great job and [commenters would] say, 'Kill him!' You can't say that before a movie comes out. It doesn't matter what you think then, it matters what you think when you see the movie."
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Jennifer Garner's better half wasn't initially worried about the potential backlash. "The people from the studio were like, 'We're thrilled! And listen, we want to talk to you, because people go through this process and it can be a little trying.'"
Affleck was advised not to go online for a few days, but he did so anyway. "I said, ‘I'm a big boy. I can handle any snub. I can handle anything.'"
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"I said, 'I handle s--t.' I'm very tough,'" he continued. "So, I saw the announcement, I look down the thing and I look at the first comment. The first comment goes, 'Nooooooooooooo.' I'm like, ‘We're going to be Luddites for a while, kids.'"
Affleck said he's excited to see how his three children react when they watch the movie in July 2015. "Every kid should see their dad as a superhero, right? It's so awesome, man," he said. "I'm so excited."
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The Nolan Batman was a big change from the previous big screen adaptations. I think Ben Affleck is a pretty good actor and will bring us another strong Batman. I know he has taken some crap but most of it has been for off-screen romances, etc. Every actor has some questionable roles on their resume but if you look at the majority of his work as an actor/writer/director you have to take Affleck seriously and give him a chance.
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he done a good job playin batman in batman vs superman
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In real life Ben Affleck is Elmer Fudd. Have you noticed? They have never been seen together at the same time. That's a dead giveaway.
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He's gonna be perfect.
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I've never cared for Batman. I always preferred Superman growing up. I have never even seen any Batman movies. I really don't care which actor plays him.
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wasnt a big fan of him as batman. he lacked something. i didn't believe it.
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Well, I am a longtime Bat-fan (beginning with the Adam West TV show, which I caught in reruns in the seventies) and I'm provisionally okay with Affleck based on seeing him in some of his earlier roles. I haven't seen Dawn of Justice yet, though, so that's why it is provisional and, based on reviews and personal opinion of Zak Snyder, I might just wait for Affleck's Batman solo movie to see him (Snyder is also directing Justice League, which is Affleck's next appearance in the Bat-suit). Personally, I prefer Keaton or West as well as the animated Batman voiced by Kevin Conroy (who has continued to be the voice of Batman in various other animated series and videogames) from the nineties series Batman: The Animated Series.
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I have never enjoyed a single Batman movie (except that first one with Adam West!). I'm not a superhero snob--loved the Iron Man and Avenger movies--Batman just leaves me cold. There have been some amazing character work in them: Heath Ledger as Joker was chilling, and Anne Hathaway as Catwoman was deeply hot. I find I just don't give a fuck about Batman. Or Robin. Or Gotham City.
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I have never enjoyed a single Batman movie (except that first one with Adam West!). I'm not a superhero snob--loved the Iron Man and Avenger movies--Batman just leaves me cold. There have been some amazing character work in them: Heath Ledger as Joker was chilling, and Anne Hathaway as Catwoman was deeply hot. I find I just don't give a fuck about Batman. Or Robin. Or Gotham City.
Batman almost has the opposite problem of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. One constant gripe I hear about the MCU is that, with the exception of Loki, the villains haven't exactly been stellar. With Batman, the rogues gallery is almost too good, attracts serious talent, and tends to dominate the movies (and even, to be honest, the TV show at times).
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Batman almost has the opposite problem of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. One constant gripe I hear about the MCU is that, with the exception of Loki, the villains haven't exactly been stellar. With Batman, the rogues gallery is almost too good, attracts serious talent, and tends to dominate the movies (and even, to be honest, the TV show at times).
Yep. You nailed it - Batman is dull and brooding and boring and never has anything interesting to say (he's always looking off in the distance scowling, as if thinking, "Wow, look how dark and brooding and cool I am."). But there have been so many great performances from the villians, even in the old school TV show - Frank Gorshin!!!, Burgess Merideth!!!
The Marvel Universe has really interesting heroes, with tons of back-story and neuroses and conflicting goals. The villains are less important. Though I really loved that robot snake thing from space they fought in the first Avengers.
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Yep. You nailed it - Batman is dull and brooding and boring and never has anything interesting to say (he's always looking off in the distance scowling, as if thinking, "Wow, look how dark and brooding and cool I am."). But there have been so many great performances from the villians, even in the old school TV show - Frank Gorshin!!!, Burgess Merideth!!!
The Marvel Universe has really interesting heroes, with tons of back-story and neuroses and conflicting goals. The villains are less important. Though I really loved that robot snake thing from space they fought in the first Avengers.
I guess it's all a matter of personal tastes, haha. I personally find a dark/brooding/flawed antihero a million times more enticing and intriguing than the archetypal lighthearted superhero who simply does cool stuff before receiving his medal. Much similar to how Byronic heroes have quite a lot more substance and complexity to me than all those bland exemplary heroes.
I've hardly ever found any interest in superheroes other than Batman: to me they just come across as Robotman, Speedyman or Elasticman performing their cheap gimmicks for the amazement of the masses. Watching movies like Thor or Ironman quite literally made me feel as if I was observing a 10-year-old boy playing with his figurines: it's all bing-bam-boom action with an extremely simplistic plot.
Although barely portrayed in movie adaptions, there are quite a few recurring themes in the Batverse that provide quite a lot of depth to the character:
- Batman is a self-made hero. He isn't a wondrous entity from another planet, he hasn't been bit by a magical spider, he didn't conveniently fall into a pool of chemicals: all of his talents emanated from his very own efforts, resolve and determination, from his astounding fighting abilities to his brilliant gadgets. He's just a mere mortal with a terrifying level of drive. How fucking hardcore and inspiring is that?
- His flawed motivations. Batman is inherently an extremely fucked up man, and not quite the typical shining hero that's simply appointed to save the day. He's just a poor little boy who had his parents killed before his eyes, which grew into a bitter man who brutally wants to make every fucking criminal pay. Batman is often presented as a legitimate freak just as much as the Joker is, with his own mental scars and his own crazy persona. Unlike the rest of Gotham's villains who wish to cause harm however, Batman is determined to use his past traumatic experiences as a motivating force to achieve noble goals. In short, turning one's worst fucking experiences into the most profitable outcome. Again, how inspiring is that?
- His sympathy toward his adversaries. As expressed above, Batman can actually relate quite a lot to his rivals, more so than to any other Gotham's citizen. Moreover, Batman's goal is to help the villains just as much as the innocents. There isn't in fact a single person who cares more about the Joker's well-being or mental condition than Batman does; Batman almost acts as his guardian angel. And conversely, the Joker can't be thankful enough for finally having found a suitable rival to play his little games with. The level of mutual understanding, respect and sympathy toward one's adversaries represented in that is something that I personally find extremely touching and inspiring.
- His fear of loss/attachment, which is a theme that's often explored with his relationship with Robin. Having lost his parents at an early age, Batman is extremely reluctant to let anyone enter his life; and that's especially true with Robin, which strives to fight alongside him in the most dangerous situations. There's quite a lot of psychological material in there: the fact that a lighthearted boy who simply wishes to help him out threatens him more than even the most sinister villain ever could.
I could go on and on but I'll stop there. In my mind though, Batman has quite a lot going on for himself in terms of complexity and subtleties. Sure, it's definitely more mature, dark and subdued than Ironman shooting laser beams or Hulk having a tantrum, but that's exactly why I love the character so much: there's a certain level of scrutiny required to really appreciate all the undertones and nuances that Batman offers.
I'll be the first to agree that the Batman movies were barely about Batman however. To me, most of them were okayish movies that simply presented one of my icons in a very limited perspective. I mean, the latest Dawn of Justice movie even showed Batman ruthlessly killing criminals, which is so fucking contrary to what the character stands for. Recent video games like the Arkham series were infinitely better at grasping the essence of the character; that's 4 games that each have a completion time of around 15 hours (60 hours in total), which is 30x the scope of a regular movie. These games even received plenty of praise from hardcore comic fans, the most recurrent comment being: "The developers really did their homework... they get it, they just so fucking get it."
Anyway, my subjective and utterly biased self is tempted to argue that Batman is simply too complex to be epitomized in a mere 2 hours blockbuster, haha. The matter of fact is, most people are expecting an entertaining action movie when they go see a Batman movie; taking only one of the themes I presented above and cramming it inside the movie while keeping it lighthearted and enjoyable for the whole family could prove to be quite a challenge. And that's especially true when, as mentioned by seeker4, any of Batman's villain is already fascinating enough to completely steal the show with his own idiosyncrasies and his own psychological matters.
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I have never enjoyed a single Batman movie (except that first one with Adam West!). I'm not a superhero snob--loved the Iron Man and Avenger movies--Batman just leaves me cold. There have been some amazing character work in them: Heath Ledger as Joker was chilling, and Anne Hathaway as Catwoman was deeply hot. I find I just don't give a fuck about Batman. Or Robin. Or Gotham City.
Me neither and they have only made it worse by casting Ben Affleck IMHO.
I may have mentioned once or twice that I am a bit of a Henry Cavill fan
I buy all the Marvel films once they come out on DVD too. I haven't bought this one, even with Henry in it, I just can't force myself to because of my dislike of Batman which as I said has only increased with Ben being cast because I dislike him even more. The man couldn't act his way out of a paper bag. I forced myself to watch it once, I was as disappointed with the film as I knew I would be even with the love of my life being in it...just my
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I just don't see why they keep dragging up Batman and making new films with terrible casting when they have all these new and good ones that people actually like. The Duchess of Tart
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In real life Ben Affleck is Elmer Fudd. Have you noticed? They have never been seen together at the same time. That's a dead giveaway.
Nobody has ever seen you and Ben Affleck together either...
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Batman is for kids for god's sake.
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Though I really loved that robot snake thing from space they fought in the first Avengers.
Best scene in the movie is when Banner transforms into Hulk and then promptly one-shots one of those things. Hulk is the Avengers' nuclear bomb. Now if only Marvel could get things sorted out so we could get Ruffalo in a solo Hulk movie (though I'm hearing he's pretty prominent in next year's Thor : Ragnarok).
I have a funny relationship with comic book heroes. I love Batman but I actually think as an overall stable of characters, Marvel is much better than DC, both movie (well, save for the hapless FF who can't seem to get a decent movie to save their souls) and comic wise.
Batman is for kids for god's sake.
Apparently has never read Batman : Year One or Dark Knight Returns.
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Nobody has ever seen you and Ben Affleck together either...
Maybe they have.
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Batman is for kids for god's sake.
Yep, a quick look at Batman's rogues gallery makes us realize that this was all intended for kiddies.
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I have a funny relationship with comic book heroes. I love Batman but I actually think as an overall stable of characters, Marvel is much better than DC, both movie (well, save for the hapless FF who can't seem to get a decent movie to save their souls) and comic wise.
I'd argue that DC Comics own the two most iconic superheroes ever (ie. Superman and Batman), so they might not have the same incentive as Marvel to establish new heroes; they can just revamp the same old ones over and over again and people never get tired of it. But meh, I don't really care which has the most merit between the two... I just fucking love Batman, haha.
And I'd actually tend to agree with you concerning the success of Marvel movies. They aren't exactly my type of movies, but I can't really deny that they're pretty much perfect for what they are (ie. lighthearted entertainment). The latest Dawn of Justice movie was extremely shitty by comparison; it was just an overall rather pretentious movie that achieved absolutely nothing. The fact that the producers had the two greatest superheroes of all time at their disposal and still managed to mess it up so badly is just plain sad... no wait, unfathomable. I really don't have high hopes for the upcoming Justice League movies.
And although Christopher Nolan's movies were interesting, I thought that they completely lacked in the caricatural/cartoonish aspect of Batman. They were overly realistic for no apparent purpose, as Batman has proven time and again that he can both be grave and caricatural splendidly at the very same time. As I like to say, they were good movies, but they weren't exactly proper Batman movies.
And mind you, good fighting sequences were totally absent in Nolan's trilogy. I've been waiting for so long to see a choregraphy as awesome as this one in an actual Batman movie (skip at 1:50):
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Yep, a quick look at Batman's rogues gallery makes us realize that this was all intended for kiddies.
Yes kids as opposed to kiddies.
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I haven't bought this one, even with Henry in it, I just can't force myself to because of my dislike of Batman which as I said has only increased with Ben being cast because I dislike him even more. The man couldn't act his way out of a paper bag.
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get it for Wonder Woman.
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get it for Wonder Woman.
Wonder Woman co-starring with Elmer Fudd? Hmm... I'd watch it! Get me some hot buttered popcorn, Reese's Miniatures, and a case of ice cold beer.
If Elmer Fudd and Wonder Woman mate, their child will be named Wonder Fudd.
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If Elmer Fudd and Wonder Woman mate, their child will be named Wonder Fudd.
Great, we've gone from superhero movies to WTF movies.
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get it for Wonder Woman.
And she gets a whole movie to herself next year.
Gal Gadot looks perfect in the costume. Given the general reaction to Dawn of Justice, I'm happy to wait for the Wonder Woman solo movie to see her in action, though.